Type 9 sucks and so does my docking

Rich123poppop

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I wanted to help out in the Osmium mining CG so I upgraded(very loose term) my Python to Type9 and fitted her out as a miner. 100M ship had 8m in credits spare. Read posts about her flying ability thought there were overstating it.
Set out mining, Type9 is NOT fun to fly but ok I would make big money in this thing. Then went to Dock in a Corolis Station. Big mistake. Thought it would dock like a Python. Got 'caught' in the docking bay and got destroyed by station. Never mind, 5m rebuy. Vowed to be more careful.
Set off again, forgot to stock up on limpets so turned around and docked very carefully. No problem. Did mining, got back to station and very, very carefully approached station, got caught again in docking entrance, panicked and promptly got killed again for trespassing. Bankrupted and ended up back in a Sidewinder. Turned game off and sulked. Angry with myself I hadn't fitted docking computer.
Pleasantly discovered I still had my other two ships, Asp & Vulture. It was SOOO nice to fly a Sidewinder again after the Type9. Got back in my Asp Explorer and did Robigo runs to build up cash again. Very pleased to say am back upto 40m after 3 runs. Think of myself as a pretty decent smuggler now.
In short I will never fly Type9 again and will cherish my Python when I can afford her back. I thought I could make more money trading in a Type9 than in Python but having flown one, the extra time it would take (and also no outposts hence lower profit per tonne) to fly and dock I really don't think there will be a lot of difference.
To anyone else thinking about changing to Type9 please buy a docking computer. (Or change your mind and stick with current ship)
 

Comrade Error

Comrade Error
Python probably does a better job of mining. T9 ain't bad I would say your docking skills need some working on.. be patient.. and don't go for the Cutter if you are going to keep messing up..

I will also take this opportunity to whinge a bit about Robigo. *Whinge*
 

Momo Velia

Momo Velia
OP, please never think of buying a Cutter if you're struggling with a T-9. The way they fly is very similar, with only an increase in speed being the benefit of the Cutter. I believe a comparison video tests the two ships and found the Cutter to be less manoeuvreable than the T-9.

I'm sorry for your losses, but if you ever find yourself getting into a ship bigger than your Python spend a couple of runs with a DC and watch how it takes you into the station, then remove it and attempt to copy it. That may help, as that's how I learned with my T-9. Once you've learned to dock a T-9, you'll never need a DC for any ship ever again.
 

Rich123poppop

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Thanks for help, sympathies and going "nah nah you cant dock" lol
Phantom - that is a great idea to buy a docking computer just to see how the 'game' would dock a big ship. Wish I had done that with Type9.
The next big ship I get will be an Anaconda and will definitely do what you've suggested with that.
 

Momo Velia

Momo Velia
Just keep in mind that when you're practicing it's best to keep your speed around 50m/s. Don't panic if the station issues a warning while you're flying in or out, so long as you keep your speed and slightly press on the left stick to match the station rotation, you'll get through just fine.
 

rincewindcymru

rincewindcymru
Just in case anyone buys a Cutter and lets the DC dock for you. NEVER leave it to it's own devices! A quick trip to get a can of liquid food from the fridge only to return to find the DC head butting the station with my Cutter and down to one faintly glowing shield ring! It's messed up several times since but I've been there to stop any serious damage. I did the Python - T9 route like the OP and it is a shock going to the T9. 80-90 m/s is the sweet spot, less drift at that speed.
 

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If my experience with large ungainly aircraft in the many flight games I've played is anything to go by, then you need to think ahead with the Type-9.

She's a very large vessel, so you need to be aware of your surroundings. Honestly I would fly her much the same way I would fly a C-130 on a flight sim'. I'd fly primarily by the instruments. Use your sensors to see where everyone else is and fly accordingly. The only thing you need to look out of the canopy for is the mail-slot. Line up, and fly. Once inside the station, remember to use your compass to find your pad. Then, when you are above the pad, use the HUD to land. Don't look out of the canopy. All the information you need to be using at this point is inside your cockpit.
 

BlackDragon1032

BlackDragon1032
Sorry for your loss but then again people complain about how bad the trading ships are in this game and when people make a topic about how to make these ships better they get hammerd with python and annaconda worshippers. Instead of thinking like hey FD maybe you should change this or that about the T9,T7 etc..

But wait what I'm saying it's tunnelvision that will save the day :p
 

AkimuMC

AkimuMC
BlackDragon1032 said:
Sorry for your loss but then again people complain about how bad the trading ships are in this game and when people make a topic about how to make these ships better they get hammerd with python and annaconda worshippers. Instead of thinking like hey FD maybe you should change this or that about the T9,T7 etc..

But wait what I'm saying it's tunnelvision that will save the day :p
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But, if FD made every change that every CMDR wanted then where would the balance be?

The T series are traders, and handle like such. They aren't impossible to fly, just different. I flew a T-9 for a week or two just to boost my gains on a trade route. Sure, I could have used a Conda, but a T-9 got me 40-50t more per trip. So, I weighed the pros and cons of my situation and made a decision. The pro of having more tonnage won and I dealt with the con of it flying like a pig.

It is a balance issue. If the suggestions were all listened to we would get a T-10 (example) that had the cargo of a Cutter, the handling of a FDL, and the armament of a Corvette with power to spare.
 

BlackDragon1032

BlackDragon1032
AkimuMC said:
But, if FD made every change that every CMDR wanted then where would the balance be?

The T series are traders, and handle like such. They aren't impossible to fly, just different. I flew a T-9 for a week or two just to boost my gains on a trade route. Sure, I could have used a Conda, but a T-9 got me 40-50t more per trip. So, I weighed the pros and cons of my situation and made a decision. The pro of having more tonnage won and I dealt with the con of it flying like a pig.

It is a balance issue. If the suggestions were all listened to we would get a T-10 (example) that had the cargo of a Cutter, the handling of a FDL, and the armament of a Corvette with power to spare.
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Indeed you have a point but telling FD that there should be a small tweaking on T9 this wouldn't be a problem if the community suggested it. Then it would be still be up to FD to make changes or not. But this worshipping of ships is sometime getting ridiculous. And yes it's like you it weighing the pros and cons and then make your own choice.
 
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SCSkunk

SCSkunk
The Type-9 most certainly does NOT suck. She is a flying credit-printer. You are using her wrong, OP. Can't blame the ship for that.
I'm flying the AspX for the mining CG, as she is perfect for focused mining. The Type-9 can mine well, but is more of a bulk/strip miner.
Mine stays parked at the beginning of my trade routes unless it's a hauling CG. She can double the output of a Python. It's no contest, Type-9 wins.
Python wins in other areas however...
 

Momo Velia

Momo Velia
The OP is a far less experienced pilot who had a bad time in their first expeirences of flying the T-9, give him/her a break Skunk. Provide some useful feedback from your expeirences or don't post at all.

(What is wrong with people today, is it Galaxy-wide "look down on others" day or something?)
 

SCSkunk

SCSkunk
SCSkunk said:
The Type-9 most certainly does NOT suck. She is a flying credit-printer. You are using her wrong, OP. Can't blame the ship for that.
I'm flying the AspX for the mining CG, as she is perfect for focused mining. The Type-9 can mine well, but is more of a bulk/strip miner.
Mine stays parked at the beginning of my trade routes unless it's a hauling CG. She can double the output of a Python. It's no contest, Type-9 wins.
Python wins in other areas however...
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Phantom Azuma said:
The OP is a far less experienced pilot who had a bad time in their first expeirences of flying the T-9, give him/her a break Skunk. Provide some useful feedback from your expeirences or don't post at all.

(What is wrong with people today, is it Galaxy-wide "look down on others" day or something?)
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I sincerely apologize to the OP if they felt "looked down on". That wasn't how I felt when I responded in the way I did. In fact, I don't see anything aggressive at all about what I posted. I disagreed with it being labeled as sucky, stated that I felt the OP was using it wrong, and also generalized my own way to use it.
Perhaps you are being a bit defensive, Phantom? I've read GG7's posts, I know what snobby elitist looks like. I don't feel my post expressed that. But then again, my perspective is certainly skewed. Again, I apologize if it came across that way. I just don't see how.
 

Bieltan

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BlackDragon1032 said:
Sorry for your loss but then again people complain about how bad the trading ships are in this game and when people make a topic about how to make these ships better they get hammerd with python and annaconda worshippers. Instead of thinking like hey FD maybe you should change this or that about the T9,T7 etc..

But wait what I'm saying it's tunnelvision that will save the day :p
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^^^ is just jelly he no can haz Python

:D

*runs*
 
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