Typing In VR

[amcb10]

Hello fellow Commanders

When I had my Oculus Rift I could use the pass through feature and muddle through typing without removing my headset but since I have been using the G2 I am struggling.

Is there an app I could use to bring up a virtual keyboard perhaps? Please don't advise to touch type as I am unable to do this.

Thanks in advance.

 

[BigDuke6ixx]

Hello fellow Commanders

When I had my Oculus Rift I could use the pass through feature and muddle through typing without removing my headset but since I have been using the G2 I am struggling.

Is there an app I could use to bring up a virtual keyboard perhaps? Please don't advise to touch type as I am unable to do this.

Thanks in advance.

Use Voice Attack and dictate.

 

[Tof1998]

Use Voice Attack and dictate.

How ? Bringing up comms is easy in VA, getting the program to type what i say isnt working...is there an instruction i'm missing ? any help would be greatly appreciated...Thanks

 

[amcb10]

I cannot get it to work either.

 

[Rock Hunter]

Are you using VA and one of the HCS voice packs or just VA?

The HCS packs allow a command that will allow you to dictate (I’m away from my PC and can’t remember exactly what it is at the moment) although you have to dictate letter by letter. Which makes it slower than touch typing for me.

Instead I use the various Comms commands and edit them to have a variety of pre made Comms messages.

E.g. “Send Comms message one” Automatically types a message saying “I’m in VR so Comms may take a while, bear with me ”

This is using the HCS voice packs and their inbuilt voice trigger editor but I’m assuming you could do the same within VA itself.

I‘ve tried the pass through thing thats part of WMR and just find it very annoying, intrusive and hard to get rid of.

Maybe one day we’ll get haptic gloves and an in game keyboard for VR, until then it’s whatever you can best muddle through with I think.

 

[Tof1998]

Thanks for the reply, Yes i'm using VA and HCS voicepacks ( i have 10 of them )..........The question is, what is the spoken command to enter the voice trigger...also, i'm guessing you have to add a profile of your own ,as the HCS packs can't be edited ( correct me if i'm wrong ).
Regards.

 

[Rock Hunter]

If you open the editor by saying "Protocol over ride, customize my settings," or by pressing LFT CTRL, LFT SHFT & ENTER you should open to the following screen.

Open the Voice Trigger Editor to make various adjustments to the input commands and to find the 'typing mode.' - below.

Also, on the first page option is the Comms command customizer.

For example. My pirating commands .... in the hope people realise I'm not an npc and I'm just having a bit of fun.

As I said before....whilst nothings perfect in VR, HCS has helped. Worth checking out their Discord for really helpful and very quick answers, or their old forum for really helpful but slower answers.

Hope that may be of some help.


EDIT: Dammit, I need to improve my grammar your/you're....schoolboy error!

 

[Tof1998]

Brilliant... Thank You Very Much

 

[AvonNZ]

You can use VA, but years ago I tried out the inbuilt voice recognition 'Dictation' in Windows 10, that worked better than Voice Attack, but you need to activate it with a key press of combination.
Check it out at :

Source: https://youtu.be/LDAkcp5L7ok

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

for me the worse thing about the chat in VR is the moment I look away from the chat window it closes and I lose anything I have type. same for the messages which pop up. if I don't look directly at them they close and are lost for good. I have a voice pack profile. I didn't know it could dictate. this could be a game changer. my blind typing is....... so so. I make a lot of mistakes but generally readable but it is the glancing away which kills me.

 

[DirtyMike0330]

for me the worse thing about the chat in VR is the moment I look away from the chat window it closes and I lose anything I have type. same for the messages which pop up. if I don't look directly at them they close and are lost for good. I have a voice pack profile. I didn't know it could donate. this could be a game changer. my blind typing is....... so so. I make a lot of mistakes but generally readable but it is the glancing away which kills me.

I turned off the "look to focus" settings just because of this. I prefer to use one of my 4-way hats to toggle panels because they stay on until I'm done using them or override them by selecting another panel.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

I turned off the "look to focus" settings just because of this. I prefer to use one of my 4-way hats to toggle panels because they stay on until I'm done using them or override them by selecting another panel.

Indeed this method definitely has its advantages......... even in gameplay sometimes when you are just having a nosey out of your ship the menus popping up are quite annoying.

however when it is working properly i really like the holographic menus popping up, it adds to the versimilitude of being in your ship imo. I could imagine a HUD working like that one day.

it was a toss up which way to go for me, and what swung it was i dont have a spare unused hat on my flight set up.... so i just choose to be an antisocial sod and rarely talk to anyone

 

[VR andysonofbob]

I turned off the "look to focus" settings just because of this. I prefer to use one of my 4-way hats to toggle panels because they stay on until I'm done using them or override them by selecting another panel.

Indeed this method definitely has its advantages......... even in gameplay sometimes when you are just having a nosey out of your ship the menus popping up are quite annoying.

however when it is working properly i really like the holographic menus popping up, it adds to the versimilitude of being in your ship imo. I could imagine a HUD working like that one day.

it was a toss up which way to go for me, and what swung it was i dont have a spare unused hat on my flight set up.... so i just choose to be an antisocial sod and rarely talk to anyone

Is there a setting in between where the screen opens but it doesn't focus? Then the holographic pops up but it can be ignored unless you want them using your shift+hatswitch or whatever?

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Is there a setting in between where the screen opens but it doesn't focus? Then the holographic pops up but it can be ignored unless you want them using your shift+hatswitch or whatever?

not that i am aware. for me a nice improvement - and one which to me as a non coder seems trivial would be for the chat at least, for it to retain the last few messages as well as any partial message you were typing in. that way if you look away and then back again, all is not lost.

 

[Hempstead]

I just want one thing regarding this panel thing...
-- A sticky look to focus on/off toggle switch.

Why?
This would be allow me to bind one of my excess physical toggle switches for it such that when I am in a ship, I want this look to focus thing on, but in SRVs, I WANT IT F'ing OFF! Man, I just hate losing control when one of them panels Look-to-Focus on me in a bumpy SRV drive! With a toggle switch assigned, all I have to do is flipping a switch to get the behavior I want instead of having to go into the control settings to change it to prepare for an SRV drive. Ideally, the use case should have two scenarios. One for toggle binding, one for momentary binding (I wouldn't use it, but I am sure some others would prefer this method). QoL!

Regarding the typing thing... I simply use keyboard '2' key to bring up the comm panel... the rest of the panels, I use look to focus. Well... I have to reach for the keyboard to "chat" anyway, so, might as well hit '2' to bring up the comm panel so it won't "disappear" on me.

BTW, because I mount my Q2 on a helmet without the face pad, I have a gap down between my nose/face and the Q2.... I can actually see my keyboard. I blocked the top and side for light leaks, but not the bottom... at first it's a bit distracting... but I got used to it and turned it into an advantage. Now it's like what it "should be" -- I don't see it at all, until I want to see it.

 

[Scubadog]

I'm amazed at how many non-typists there are. I have my keyboard situation between the two halves of my HOTAS and I ONLY play in VR. All I have to do is take my hands off the HOTAS, move the keyboard between them and start typing. I took typing in school and it's paid off my whole life. I thought schools started teaching "keyboarding", which was essentially the same thing. It's never too late to learn touch typing.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

I'm amazed at how many non-typists there are. I have my keyboard situation between the two halves of my HOTAS and I ONLY play in VR. All I have to do is take my hands off the HOTAS, move the keyboard between them and start typing. I took typing in school and it's paid off my whole life. I thought schools started teaching "keyboarding", which was essentially the same thing. It's never too late to learn touch typing.

i guess it depends on your age. i only briefly did typing in school. i have my own form of touch typing, partly due to having to type for my job (but not at secretary level), and partly due to Mavis Beacon on the amiga......... I dont think learning to type just for the odd game in vr is really a good use of your time however, unless it is something you want to do for other reasons .

despite me being semi decent at typing (i do make a lot of errors) it is still a royal pain for me in Elite.........

 

[Distant Carrier]

Does anyone have an Index?

I'm still puzzling out the adapters I need to use to get it to work on my gaming laptop, which is embarrassing, but I'm curious if the finger position sensors will cause anything weird to happen if I touch type, which I'm pretty good at

BTW, for anyone else in a similar stage:
The Index will work with a DisplayPort 1.4 Type-C USB 3.2 Gen 2 male to DisplayPort female adapter, provided you have an alt-mode USB-C connector that is wired to your discreet graphics card, RTX blah blah or etc. You can tell a DisplayPort 1.4 (alt-mode USB-C) by the little symbol next to it: it will show a tiny P symbol inside a D shape. Do not trust the laptop Mini-DisplayPort: at least some manufactures seem to use these as multi-monitor connections and wire them to the integrated gfx chip and your Index will laugh at this situation and refuse to do anything at all

 

[spectra7045]

I have found out recently that if you type a destination in notepad or simply copy it from something like EDDB to the clipboard you can either use the command paste clipboard with HCS or simply use Ctrl V to paste it. Has made life so much easier since i found it and wandered half way round the galaxy to get my exploration Elite.