New UI elements do not match "design language" that used pretty much everywhere else in the game. New screens are heavy, not simplified and do not match with the old one. In particular: Mission Board(+/-), Outfitting(+/-), Known Engineers(-), Engineer workshop(-----), Galaxy and system map elements(+/-).
I've already wrote a few posts on beta discussion, beta bugs, and ama livestream thread. But didn't get any feedback until QA-Mitch answered me back with "Hey sequ, could you please provide some screenshots of the screens you feel require improvement. Please be as clear as possible with your feedback about what and why you feel they needs changing."
So i providing some screenshots with commentary down below.
You can check out my old thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250063 mostly all screenshots are outdated
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250993
Others threads about ui:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250985
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250086
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Pic. number - white. (number) - red.
1. Maps
http://imgur.com/a/dWkJH
Pic.1 Old Design. All boxes and lines are the same size.
Pic.2 New Design. Grey boxes are too big. Just resize then to the old style Pic.3
Pic.4 New Design. Some elements are normal, some oversized. Should be the same old style.
2. Mission board
http://imgur.com/a/jlU9c
Pic.1 New mission board a bit bigger that bulletin board. Then you swapping from hub to board a few times its doesn't look very nice. It possible to resize without losing anything.
Pic.2 Scroll line on the left ( not on the right where it should be) (1) is there just because of big unneeded element (2). This element exist in nub menu as a very thin line on the left side of the box. Button (3) differ than exit button from hub. (4) this is ridiculous - so many rep lines makes it too heavy. Just type the cardinal needed.
Pic.3 Some fixes by me. (1) Scroller to the right. (3 lower) "unneeded element" now placed at the picture, and all pictures (5) a little bit smaller and didn't connect to each other. (3 upper) progress line a little bit thinner or can be used (2) simplified line since main information in the up right corner. Button 4 now same as hub.
3. Known Engineers
http://imgur.com/a/FGmxc
Pic.1 Boxes with name and specialization could be more thinner like in mission board.
Pic.2 and 4 Every new UI element has this problem - boxes are much closer now. And the most interesting that it's mixed in the new UI. (3) green is how they been and should be. Red is bad. And all exit buttons on all 4 pictures are different in size.
Pic.1-2 and 3-4 (2) Boxes with text have different colour in new design. At the mission board and station hub they are transparent and highlighted only when selected. At the "known engineers" panel they all looks highlighted and then you select tab, its become highlighted even more. Just make them transparent. But you didn't do it because your another mistake - black background.
Pic.5 Background is blurred. But on the next layer there is brown square (1,2,3). Its look so bad and destroy composure that blur did. Solution - just do as you did before! Use line (4) to create a frame for stuff just like its been done here!
http://i.imgur.com/4mOY3n7.jpg
4. Outfitting
http://imgur.com/a/6bD3u
Pic.1 And again black background - look horrible. Sorting pips shouldn't shift to the right . They should be just under "sort list" and "order results".
Pic.2 (http://i.imgur.com/FSDOdY6.jpg compare) The idea with dots is nice. But since its nice, it doesn't mean it should be everywhere. (2) Dots are shown at the installed module and duplicated by the number, so to simplyfy just remove any other dots. We already in thruster section - no need to name every box. Compare to older (1) box which contained much more info but had the same size, new elements could be smaller. Same goes for Pic.3
Pic.4 This shift looks bad with this big box. Smaller boxes - and more shift to the right should work.
Pic.5 Font size and icons should be smaller to fit in. Planetary Vehicle Bay = srv bay.
Pic.6 Ship spec at the bottom touch edge of a screen. There should be a red buffer zone. Lift it higher and made a little bit smaller.
Pic.7 Same "unneeded element" as in mission board.
5. Engineers Workshop
http://imgur.com/a/hKkzU
Pic.1 (1) This road closure lines are unbelievable (http://i.imgur.com/d4h2z6p.png). Lets create vast space and fill it with something. (2) Box are double oversized!!! For x-box for VR? We don't need it. It's look awful. (3) Another brown squares on blur.
Pic.2 This is so bad. Blur(+) > Brown background(-) > Text > Fade(+) > BLACK background(--) > Text. This pop-out is so offcentered with oversized buttons.
Pic.3 (1) Looks bad on black background. This panel has all the problem that i mentioned above. (2) In every tab in the game "exit button" have different size, colour, Axel position. (3) There is no need to put stupid symbols.
Pic.4 Same as Pic.2 but this one is centred.
Pic.5 Since when buttons are connected to something in this game?
Engineer workshop looks oversized not only coz buttons. All black background must be removed ( market works perfectly on blur http://i.imgur.com/H7VlvI5.jpg). All icons should be removed. And popout messages should be much much lighter.
6. Minor tweaks and Bugs
http://imgur.com/a/F77dY
Pic.1 Box is too big just for one name. By resizing it scrolling to needed element will be easier.
Pic.2 Bug with overlaying.
Pic.3 View from above please.
Pic.4 Lower the text box.
Pic.5 and 6 Different size of popout message. Should be also blurred not black background.
Pic.7 Standby on the black background. Width is perfect but this should be on blur. Or keep the triangles animation on blur.
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If i see anything more I'll add it to this thread.
Main goal is to keep interface as light as possible since its holographic in our cockpit. And keep everything in the same size and shape. Then i first saw elite in early 2015 i was amazed by its look. Lets keep this feeling and redo all problems.
Thread on bug forum https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=256716
I've already wrote a few posts on beta discussion, beta bugs, and ama livestream thread. But didn't get any feedback until QA-Mitch answered me back with "Hey sequ, could you please provide some screenshots of the screens you feel require improvement. Please be as clear as possible with your feedback about what and why you feel they needs changing."
So i providing some screenshots with commentary down below.
You can check out my old thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250063 mostly all screenshots are outdated
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250993
Others threads about ui:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250985
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=250086
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Pic. number - white. (number) - red.
1. Maps
http://imgur.com/a/dWkJH
Pic.1 Old Design. All boxes and lines are the same size.
Pic.2 New Design. Grey boxes are too big. Just resize then to the old style Pic.3
Pic.4 New Design. Some elements are normal, some oversized. Should be the same old style.
2. Mission board
http://imgur.com/a/jlU9c
Pic.1 New mission board a bit bigger that bulletin board. Then you swapping from hub to board a few times its doesn't look very nice. It possible to resize without losing anything.
Pic.2 Scroll line on the left ( not on the right where it should be) (1) is there just because of big unneeded element (2). This element exist in nub menu as a very thin line on the left side of the box. Button (3) differ than exit button from hub. (4) this is ridiculous - so many rep lines makes it too heavy. Just type the cardinal needed.
Pic.3 Some fixes by me. (1) Scroller to the right. (3 lower) "unneeded element" now placed at the picture, and all pictures (5) a little bit smaller and didn't connect to each other. (3 upper) progress line a little bit thinner or can be used (2) simplified line since main information in the up right corner. Button 4 now same as hub.
3. Known Engineers
http://imgur.com/a/FGmxc
Pic.1 Boxes with name and specialization could be more thinner like in mission board.
Pic.2 and 4 Every new UI element has this problem - boxes are much closer now. And the most interesting that it's mixed in the new UI. (3) green is how they been and should be. Red is bad. And all exit buttons on all 4 pictures are different in size.
Pic.1-2 and 3-4 (2) Boxes with text have different colour in new design. At the mission board and station hub they are transparent and highlighted only when selected. At the "known engineers" panel they all looks highlighted and then you select tab, its become highlighted even more. Just make them transparent. But you didn't do it because your another mistake - black background.
Pic.5 Background is blurred. But on the next layer there is brown square (1,2,3). Its look so bad and destroy composure that blur did. Solution - just do as you did before! Use line (4) to create a frame for stuff just like its been done here!
http://i.imgur.com/4mOY3n7.jpg
4. Outfitting
http://imgur.com/a/6bD3u
Pic.1 And again black background - look horrible. Sorting pips shouldn't shift to the right . They should be just under "sort list" and "order results".
Pic.2 (http://i.imgur.com/FSDOdY6.jpg compare) The idea with dots is nice. But since its nice, it doesn't mean it should be everywhere. (2) Dots are shown at the installed module and duplicated by the number, so to simplyfy just remove any other dots. We already in thruster section - no need to name every box. Compare to older (1) box which contained much more info but had the same size, new elements could be smaller. Same goes for Pic.3
Pic.4 This shift looks bad with this big box. Smaller boxes - and more shift to the right should work.
Pic.5 Font size and icons should be smaller to fit in. Planetary Vehicle Bay = srv bay.
Pic.6 Ship spec at the bottom touch edge of a screen. There should be a red buffer zone. Lift it higher and made a little bit smaller.
Pic.7 Same "unneeded element" as in mission board.
5. Engineers Workshop
http://imgur.com/a/hKkzU
Pic.1 (1) This road closure lines are unbelievable (http://i.imgur.com/d4h2z6p.png). Lets create vast space and fill it with something. (2) Box are double oversized!!! For x-box for VR? We don't need it. It's look awful. (3) Another brown squares on blur.
Pic.2 This is so bad. Blur(+) > Brown background(-) > Text > Fade(+) > BLACK background(--) > Text. This pop-out is so offcentered with oversized buttons.
Pic.3 (1) Looks bad on black background. This panel has all the problem that i mentioned above. (2) In every tab in the game "exit button" have different size, colour, Axel position. (3) There is no need to put stupid symbols.
Pic.4 Same as Pic.2 but this one is centred.
Pic.5 Since when buttons are connected to something in this game?
Engineer workshop looks oversized not only coz buttons. All black background must be removed ( market works perfectly on blur http://i.imgur.com/H7VlvI5.jpg). All icons should be removed. And popout messages should be much much lighter.
6. Minor tweaks and Bugs
http://imgur.com/a/F77dY
Pic.1 Box is too big just for one name. By resizing it scrolling to needed element will be easier.
Pic.2 Bug with overlaying.
Pic.3 View from above please.
Pic.4 Lower the text box.
Pic.5 and 6 Different size of popout message. Should be also blurred not black background.
Pic.7 Standby on the black background. Width is perfect but this should be on blur. Or keep the triangles animation on blur.
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If i see anything more I'll add it to this thread.
Main goal is to keep interface as light as possible since its holographic in our cockpit. And keep everything in the same size and shape. Then i first saw elite in early 2015 i was amazed by its look. Lets keep this feeling and redo all problems.
Thread on bug forum https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=256716
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