Update 1 and DLC

[Wyvernjack]

Hello,

I don't know if I should thank you for this news or curse you... I get it new DLC new dinosaurs cool, and what ? where I could use them ? In sandbox mode and thats it ? Chalenge mode is different beast compared to 1st game, with all the limitation I don't really see how I can use this dlc there.
Sandbox mode even if its nice to have it, in long run I will not come back after there every new dlc just so I can check it...

And to add salt to injury, first Updated in majority is for Sandobox mode ! Great ! amazing so like rest of the commuinity who just want to play this game with all the economy and just to have option to start from zero and build what they want will have to wait or we will never get it ? So what is the point of those dlcs ? Beacuse for me right now, after Im done with the chanlenge mode there is nothing to do. In first game at leats I could go back and replay campaing and check how it changes with new dlc etc. or go to chalenge mode. Here I dont really know, I would buy this dlc if I could have any use of it outside of sandbox mode but if this is the only place where I can check it... Well you just lost a customer.
At this point I don't know If I should put more hours into the game or just uninstall it and well go back to 1st game.

I still have faith but if every new updated will be about sandbox mode then I will pass...

Sincerely you customer and fan.

 

[PCMR4Life]

I believe you can play sandbox like you would with the rest of the game. There is an option for creative. You can still build a park and worry about finances like you would in Chaos Theory and Challenge mode.

 

[Thylaco]

I think they'll just be spread out among the various scenarios, maybe Chaos theory too, just like Deluxe.

Unlocked for sandbox from the start would be pretty surprising.

 

[Arkelath]

I believe you can play sandbox like you would with the rest of the game. There is an option for creative. You can still build a park and worry about finances like you would in Chaos Theory and Challenge mode.

But you can’t collect DNA or do research… the sandbox mode is frustrating.
Impossible to create a park with all the features! Really a shame in this kind of game!

 

[MarcWP]

But you can’t collect DNA or do research… the sandbox mode is frustrating.
Impossible to create a park with all the features! Really a shame in this kind of game!

But you can do that in the other modes?

 

[Nioell]

But you can do that in the other modes?

No, you can't. Why don't some people get this? There isn't a single mode in this park builder/manager game where you can simply build and manage your park from the ground up without any stupid restrictions and limitations put on it in any way. Challenge Mode is more like yet another campaign with limited dino rosters, building restrictions and so on, same as Chaos Theory and the actual Campaign is nothing more but a repetitive tutorial where you don't even build a park. Sandbox right now is just boring for a whole lot of people because everything is thrown at you right away and there's no sense of progression whatsoever.

What we want is the possibility to start completely from scratch, with full economy, while unlocking EVERYTHING that's in the game for our park while we expand it. Maybe take a look at JPOG's standard game mode, that is pretty much exactly what we want. Clean slate map in every regard, no story attached, no limitations put on eras, dinos, buildings etc. just building and growing our parks while unlocking more and more in the process.

And as has been said many times the solution is as simple as giving us two more tiny option for our sandbox parks:

Expeditions/ Genomes 100% complete? Yes/ No
Research 100% complete? Yes/ No

That's all, nothing more is needed to make everyone happy and add a whole lot more replayability to the game and it really shouldn't be that hard to implement into the game.

 

[Wyvernjack]

No, you can't. Why don't some people get this? There isn't a single mode in this park builder/manager game where you can simply build and manage your park from the ground up without any stupid restrictions and limitations put on it in any way. Challenge Mode is more like yet another campaign with limited dino rosters, building restrictions and so on, same as Chaos Theory and the actual Campaign is nothing more but a repetitive tutorial where you don't even build a park. Sandbox right now is just boring for a whole lot of people because everything is thrown at you right away and there's no sense of progression whatsoever.

What we want is the possibility to start completely from scratch, with full economy, while unlocking EVERYTHING that's in the game for our park while we expand it. Maybe take a look at JPOG's standard game mode, that is pretty much exactly what we want. Clean slate map in every regard, no story attached, no limitations put on eras, dinos, buildings etc. just building and growing our parks while unlocking more and more in the process.

And as has been said many times the solution is as simple as giving us two more tiny option for our sandbox parks:

Expeditions/ Genomes 100% complete? Yes/ No
Research 100% complete? Yes/ No

That's all, nothing more is needed to make everyone happy and add a whole lot more replayability to the game and it really shouldn't be that hard to implement into the game.

There is quite a lot of threats in the forum about this issue. I still don't get it, why the simple most important mode was not added to this game, they want to keep the game alive and yet what we have is sandbox mode for youtubers and small percentage of player base that is using it. I don't mind it being in the game but this cannot be the only place when we have access to everything and yet we don't have core features that are essential to any park building games. Economy, Research and all the progression, that is behind it. They want to sell DLC fine I don't mind but I need a place were I can use it, to start from zero building my park.

And to to be honest I don't mind having to go to challenge mode to unlock new stuff and then use it in "custom scenario" this is almost the same as in first game when you unlocked new dinosaurs in campaign or new skins in challenge mode. But without the core game mode when we could have fun with all game mechanics all those new dlc's are pointless.

Not to mention they add this in Planet Zoo or even in first game you could go to challenge mode or hell even campaign, I had a lot of fun starting new campaign with all the dlcs just to see how different it is compared to vanilla game.

I just don't understand it instead of focusing their effort to satisfy majority of the player base they are more interested in investing in sandbox mode, so most players will check it maybe once and then drop the game...

And don't get me wrong I loved the fist game and I want to love second one but I know that once I unlock everything there is no place for me I will lost interest. I would love to support this game because its beautiful, even with all those bugs its still amazing but without this one simple most important mode its just empty shell and once you unlock everything there is nothing more.

 

[Nioell]

There is quite a lot of threats in the forum about this issue. I still don't get it, why the simple most important mode was not added to this game, they want to keep the game alive and yet what we have is sandbox mode for youtubers and small percentage of player base that is using it. I don't mind it being in the game but this cannot be the only place when we have access to everything and yet we don't have core features that are essential to any park building games. Economy, Research and all the progression, that is behind it. They want to sell DLC fine I don't mind but I need a place were I can use it, to start from zero building my park.

And to to be honest I don't mind having to go to challenge mode to unlock new stuff and then use it in "custom scenario" this is almost the same as in first game when you unlocked new dinosaurs in campaign or new skins in challenge mode. But without the core game mode when we could have fun with all game mechanics all those new dlc's are pointless.

Not to mention they add this in Planet Zoo or even in first game you could go to challenge mode or hell even campaign, I had a lot of fun starting new campaign with all the dlcs just to see how different it is compared to vanilla game.

I just don't understand it instead of focusing their effort to satisfy majority of the player base they are more interested in investing in sandbox mode, so most players will check it maybe once and then drop the game...

And don't get me wrong I loved the fist game and I want to love second one but I know that once I unlock everything there is no place for me I will lost interest. I would love to support this game because its beautiful, even with all those bugs its still amazing but without this one simple most important mode its just empty shell and once you unlock everything there is nothing more.

Exactly this. And tbh, they didn't even make the sandbox only players happy because they are pi**ed that they have to go through everything else first to unlock stuff before it can even be used in sandbox.

Even worse they did the exact same things in the first game: Sandbox? Yeah, but joke's on you if you wanna play it, gotta go unlock everything in other modes first or you won't have anything to use in it. Challenge Mode? Nah, no one wants that anyway can leave that out completely...it was only added later after a ton of complaints.

And here we are with the same exact problems again. One would think you learn from making the first game and what players wanted in that but somehow that didn't happen? Same with the placable foliage btw, so many people were asking for it in the first game, then it was added...and is completely missing in the sequel again. Just why? I really don't get it tbh

 

[Wyvernjack]

Exactly this. And tbh, they didn't even make the sandbox only players happy because they are pi**ed that they have to go through everything else first to unlock stuff before it can even be used in sandbox.

Even worse they did the exact same things in the first game: Sandbox? Yeah, but joke's on you if you wanna play it, gotta go unlock everything in other modes first or you won't have anything to use in it. Challenge Mode? Nah, no one wants that anyway can leave that out completely...it was only added later after a ton of complaints.

And here we are with the same exact problems again. One would think you learn from making the first game and what players wanted in that but somehow that didn't happen? Same with the placable foliage btw, so many people were asking for it in the first game, then it was added...and is completely missing in the sequel again. Just why? I really don't get it tbh

I had the same questions, like why we don't have some of the features that were in first game. Only explanation release of the game was pushed so they had to make decision what to cut from the game and what to leave so it will not be total disaster like... BF 2042 xD.

I really hope they address this issue and we will soon have this "custom scenario" or option in sandbox to start from 0 without any research and dinosaurs unlocked.