Update on Anti-Aliasing and 'jaggy' lines.

[Pigletslastand]

So I've been gone for a few months and it's now well over a year since Odyssey launched. Has anything been promised by Fdev about an ETA for a fix for the downgraded jagginess of the lines in Odyssey? Has it been mentioned in Livestreams? Is it near the top priority of fixes? Do they even still keep us abreast of what the priority fixes are these days?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Nothing at all said by CMs.

There was a post around a year ago saying they were working on a new AA engine, then nothing.

No change, sorry.

But: Good to see you back!

 

[Pigletslastand]

Hey Buddy, yeah thought it was time to dip my toe back in and see if anything had changed. Sadly doesn't look like it yet. Hope you're well!

 

[Rat Catcher]

Much has happened in the narrative, but little, bar the updates to EDO, with the game itself. U14 is due November, something 'different' next year. Sally make appearances here occasionally, but not as often as last year.

Otherwise: All good here, thank you kindly!

 

[EmFire]

I first noticed the aliasing problem with supercruise orbit lines when I changed my GPU from an RX 480 8GB to a RX 6700 XT around March of 2021, prior to Odyssey.

 

[Rhaazerus Orzhov]

Odyssey noticeably worsened the jagged lines of anti-aliasing.
I'd like to hope that there's something in the works for AA, but I don't see anything from FDev on radar.

 

[RooksBailey]

FDev's development strategy has always been "If our players can live the problem while still playing the game, don't bother fixing it." I fear this will apply to AA in Odyssey, too.

 

[GJ51]

Meh

FD isn't going to invest much in it's least profitable game.

I seriously doubt that current devs actually now how to fix the things that have been messed up since the EDO launch.

I've just gone back to 3.8 which just plays better.

 

[B1rdy]

Are you running the game at native resolution or is some sort of upsampling applied?

 

[babelfisch]

Meh

FD isn't going to invest much in it's least profitable game.

I seriously doubt that current devs actually now how to fix the things that have been messed up since the EDO launch.

I've just gone back to 3.8 which just plays better.

I would guess that Elite actually is their most profitable game. It certainly has the largest / longest running player base.

 

[GJ51]

I would guess that Elite actually is their most profitable game. It certainly has the largest / longest running player base.

IIRC their last financial report was revelatory

Oddity has been a pretty universally recognized flop and fell far short of expectations not the least of which was on the financial side

If your FD and see that ED is falling short in both interest and financial performance, you have two options. Do we pump more money into an aging franchise with a spaghetti code base that no one seems to be able to fix? Or, do we focus on the franchises that are generating profit and are still gaining audience?

You have to look at this from a corporate viewpoint with a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.

As much as we would like to think of ED as DB's hobby and favorite game, even he has to deal with the reality of the current state of the game.

It is not good

Hard to imagine that it will run much past its predicted 10 year life span that was put forth at introduction. Enjoy what we have for the next 2 years. It's probably gone after that unless they release it to public domain and let me host it from my servers.

 

[babelfisch]

IIRC their last financial report was revelatory

Oddity has been a pretty universally recognized flop and fell far short of expectations not the least of which was on the financial side

If your FD and see that ED is falling short in both interest and financial performance, you have two options. Do we pump more money into an aging franchise with a spaghetti code base that no one seems to be able to fix? Or, do we focus on the franchises that are generating profit and are still gaining audience?

You have to look at this from a corporate viewpoint with a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.

As much as we would like to think of ED as DB's hobby and favorite game, even he has to deal with the reality of the current state of the game.

It is not good

Hard to imagine that it will run much past its predicted 10 year life span that was put forth at introduction. Enjoy what we have for the next 2 years. It's probably gone after that unless they release it to public domain and let me host it from my servers.

I hate to be that guy but take a look at Steamcharts. All their other games fail to maintain a steady player base compared to Elite Dangerous. I would guess that most of the money is made with microtransactions, how detailed is the financial report in that regard?

If we ignore F1 22, Elite has more concurrent players than all their other games combined despite the fact that these games were released much later than Elite. Even the very recent F1 22 doesn't perform much better than Elite.

 

[mathox]

Maybe you guys will laugh on me but the anti aliasing implementation today in ED is a game breaking to me. I look once in a while if this is fixed but sadly apparently it is not, so it is not a good time for me (and others) to go back to the game, unfortunately

 

[Jack Winter]

I'm not sure there is any anti aliasing at all, at least I can't really see a difference in the settings..?

What I did notice is that turning anti aliasing off made the FSS look much worse, so there I think the setting works.

 

[Four Muffins]

Changing anti aliiasing settings makes no difference for me either, and the AMD options also look dreadful. I have to use normal supersampling and set it to 1.5x for it to be bearable. Even at 2.0x it doesn't go away, and on foot fps drops from 70+ to 15-20 if I go over 1.5x.

 

[alexzk]

dxvk + dxvk.conf file saying AA=16 -> all problems are fixed everywhere

as discussed here:

Anyone with an RX 6000 series card able to get Odyssey to run with the 22.5.2 drivers?

why going to the extent of all these troubles to use "optional" drivers instead of sticking with the last official whql version? which, surprisingly or not, is the 22.5.1 which are not crashing on EDO planets. Probably because of the gains offered with many other DX11/ OpenGL titles?

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Moirai]

Interesting.

Here (on an older nVidia GTX1080) with AA on at any level text and lines are slightly fuzzy and not particularly clear. Switch it off though and everything pops out nice and sharp and clear. Mildly jagged lines at 1080 res don't bother me though.

As always, results are going to depend a lot on GPU and drivers...

 

[mathox]

dxvk + dxvk.conf file saying AA=16 -> all problems are fixed everywhere

as discussed here:

Anyone with an RX 6000 series card able to get Odyssey to run with the 22.5.2 drivers?

why going to the extent of all these troubles to use "optional" drivers instead of sticking with the last official whql version? which, surprisingly or not, is the 22.5.1 which are not crashing on EDO planets. Probably because of the gains offered with many other DX11/ OpenGL titles?

forums.frontier.co.uk

which problems are you talking about?

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

dxvk + dxvk.conf file saying AA=16 -> all problems are fixed everywhere

as discussed here:

Anyone with an RX 6000 series card able to get Odyssey to run with the 22.5.2 drivers?

why going to the extent of all these troubles to use "optional" drivers instead of sticking with the last official whql version? which, surprisingly or not, is the 22.5.1 which are not crashing on EDO planets. Probably because of the gains offered with many other DX11/ OpenGL titles?

forums.frontier.co.uk

dxvk.conf does not have a setting for anti-aliasing. It does have a setting for anisotropic filtering, but that is something quite different (and can already be specified in the game's settings).