Upgraded GTX 970 to GTX 1080:

[subsy]

Sorry but that is not possible. If you have videos in the suggested senarios showing no hitching and no dips in frames I'd eat my hat.

Just take a look at the Titan thread and look at the performance on a stronger GPU, even those cards cannot maintain 90FPS on VR High @ 2 x SS. A little higher than your settings in some instances, but not by a large margin.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/275589-12-TFlop-TitanX/page5

Your rig on the lowest possible in game settings would not achieve a solid 90FPS, nor would my more powerful rig with the same GPU.

EDIT: Tested your settings on my rig - not a chance dude, while rotational tracking remains smooth the game is a stutter fest at 2.0 SS using the debug tool. Positional tracking is a mess at those settings. The game environments show obvious signs of not being able to keep up, stuttering station rotation, stuttering lifts to the hanger etc etc...

All things that you maybe can over look, however far from "smooth as silk".

With my 1080 FE, 1.75 Debug and 0.85 in game SS is the sweet spot for 90fps in almost every game scenario.

 

[Double_Tap]

Turn off the DOF. No need at all for that and it sucks up frame rates !

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I have a i7-4770 cpu, 32gb of ram, 1080gtx and I set the SS to 1.6 and I certainly do not achieve silky smooth. Unless you have some kind of magic spell cast on your system by Sandro I don't think what you are considering to be silky smooth and what most other people to be silky smooth is actually the case. I think it may be more down to your interpretation of silky smooth.

Maybe when you say SS you mean a hidden silky smooth setting set at 2.0 ? I don't have that setting so maybe you are right !

I flew to the local Nav Beacon to test out the new FDL. I got into some multi ship battles and experienced no shuddering or jarring of note. Positional tracking is more precise than anything I experienced with a TrackIr in Ed or flight sims. When things are quiet and I pop the Oculus off to check the fps, dead quiet is high 80's. The worst I have noticed when I can at busy times is high 40's, but still no jarring, shuddering or loss of tracking at those low numbers.

Thanks for the tip on the DOF.

I do have FRAPS stashed away somewhere and I will try to get a video up for the doubters at some stage as I think you can make one with that.

 

[CylonSurfer]

I flew to the local Nav Beacon to test out the new FDL. I got into some multi ship battles and experienced no shuddering or jarring of note. Positional tracking is more precise than anything I experienced with a TrackIr in Ed or flight sims. When things are quiet and I pop the Oculus off to check the fps, dead quiet is high 80's. The worst I have noticed when I can at busy times is high 40's, but still no jarring, shuddering or loss of tracking at those low numbers.

Thanks for the tip on the DOF.

I do have FRAPS stashed away somewhere and I will try to get a video up for the doubters at some stage as I think you can make one with that.

Thanks for confirming what we all suspected. Dead quiet at 80FPS is quite bad, low 40's is unplayable in my book. Far, far away from smooth as silk. Anything under 80 will be bad, for a claim of silk smooth you would need around or as close to 90FPS at all times. Async time warp is good, but it ain't that good!!

No need for videos you have confirmed what I suspected anyhows.

Most of all though, enjoy!!

 

[Seneleron]

Someone must have screwed up. 1080's don't normally sell for that cheap at Best Buy. They're listing at $700.

I live in the States, and someone did, in fact, screw up during launch over at Best Buy. They listed the 1080 at the 1070 price briefly [briefly enough to decimate already low stock]

So yea, it's entirely possible said person got REALLY lucky.

 

[shadragon]

He must have meant 1070.. best buy's lowest 1080 is $699

I live in the States, and someone did, in fact, screw up during launch over at Best Buy. They listed the 1080 at the 1070 price briefly [briefly enough to decimate already low stock]

So yea, it's entirely possible said person got REALLY lucky.

eVGA 1080 for $399. I saw the Best Buy receipt as he bought me a tablet while he was there. He went back the next day and saw the price had changed to $699. That's why I hate him, he didn't get one for me.

 

[X-Terminator]

Just did the same upgrade, messed up by not UNINSTALLING DRIVERS and Geforce Experience prior, as even though had same driver set it did not show up in Installed Programs to remove later due to it saying Install New Driver but failed as it was already installed, so deleted folders and installed both again and is ok.

Now I start PrecisionX and it shows GPU Clock is 1708 - It was advertised at 1640!
Then I use the K-Boost setting for the factory SuperClock and it says 1987Mhz !!!
Errrrrrrrrr is the right and safe or must I reinstall PrecisionX? It seems it already reset the Custom Fan Curve I had before.

Even the FTW Model is 1873Mhz - so what have I been given? OMG!

Oh well cheers EVGA

 

[Gortron]

Just did the same upgrade, messed up by not UNINSTALLING DRIVERS and Geforce Experience prior, as even though had same driver set it did not show up in Installed Programs to remove later due to it saying Install New Driver but failed as it was already installed, so deleted folders and installed both again and is ok.

Now I start PrecisionX and it shows GPU Clock is 1708 - It was advertised at 1640!
Then I use the K-Boost setting for the factory SuperClock and it says 1987Mhz !!!
Errrrrrrrrr is the right and safe or must I reinstall PrecisionX? It seems it already reset the Custom Fan Curve I had before.

Even the FTW Model is 1873Mhz - so what have I been given? OMG!

Oh well cheers EVGA

It might be down to the new firmware EVGA started using to fix the high VRM overheating. I flashed the VBIOS with the updated BIOS a few weeks ago and my 1080 FTW turbos to around 2014Mhz now and it certainly wasn't that fast before.

 

[Gortron]

any point in getting an i7? I mean, unless you're number-crunching black hole mathematics or huge excel spreadsheets, my Bro reckons they're not worth the outlay and a top i5 better value...?

I'd would have agreed but VR really does seem to be different. For reasons that seem to be alluding many of us ED combined with the tracking software and background tasks plus pushing out 90FPS seems to hit max the CPU 100% in some situations. This bottleneck then causes FPS to drop below 90 and drop to 45 if ASW is turned on. Seems to be a lot of people like me with i5's finding this but people with i7's tend to say the CPU is hardly being used. Seems from what I've read that hypertheading makes a big difference.

 

[Gortron]

Ah, excellent answer thankyou - thus unless virtuality going on, don't bother?

Yep, an i5 is more than enough if you aren't planning on playing in VR. I haven't used ED on my monitors for ages but at 1080p I was getting something crazy like 300FPS on ultra settings I think.

 

[X-Terminator]

Results of GTX 1080 SC2 with XEON QUADS = 5 more fps. Some users of i7 just get the same as these. Depends on all factors of complete build. Way too pricy for the best for any improvements. GTX970 suits XEON QUADS perfectly.
Stations and RES = 30fps
Elsewhere = 45fps
Settings Ultra Max. Nothing lower raises it.

I have a XEON E5450 (no hyperthreading) so wonder if I can fit one that can? May require bios update if possible. It's a DELL T5400.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Yep, an i5 is more than enough if you aren't planning on playing in VR. I haven't used ED on my monitors for ages but at 1080p I was getting something crazy like 300FPS on ultra settings I think.

Only think that halted me getting 60 on my 3440×1440 was my 960's and it's low 2gb of on board memory.
After I upgraded to a 980ti it was smooth sailing.

 

[Asp Explorer]

I have a XEON E5450 (no hyperthreading) so wonder if I can fit one that can? May require bios update if possible. It's a DELL T5400.

Isn't that CPU about 10 years old now?

 

[vic]

Results of GTX 1080 SC2 with XEON QUADS = 5 more fps. Some users of i7 just get the same as these. Depends on all factors of complete build. Way too pricy for the best for any improvements. GTX970 suits XEON QUADS perfectly.
Stations and RES = 30fps
Elsewhere = 45fps
Settings Ultra Max. Nothing lower raises it.

I have a XEON E5450 (no hyperthreading) so wonder if I can fit one that can? May require bios update if possible. It's a DELL T5400.

30fps for RES using GTX1080? I think somehting is wrong! I am using GTX1080(non-OC) on I5-4560K(3.4GHZ) and res sites are about 60-75(using DK2). Rarely under 60. Although I do get stutters every few seconds.

 

[JetsonRING]

Thanks for the info, I've been eyeing up a 1080 for a few weeks now. I should just take the plunge!

GTX 1080ti now on sale!

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

Results of GTX 1080 SC2 with XEON QUADS = 5 more fps. Some users of i7 just get the same as these. Depends on all factors of complete build. Way too pricy for the best for any improvements. GTX970 suits XEON QUADS perfectly.
Stations and RES = 30fps
Elsewhere = 45fps
Settings Ultra Max. Nothing lower raises it.

I have a XEON E5450 (no hyperthreading) so wonder if I can fit one that can? May require bios update if possible. It's a DELL T5400.

I think the best cpu that will fit would be the X5492. Dell didn't test it (its higher power), but its only fractionally faster than the Xeons you already have.
A basic Passmark comparison can be found here... your E5450 vs X5492 vs my 6700K.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1493&cmp[]=2565&cmp[]=1236
(You'll need to cut and paste that whole link including the square brackets)

However, its probably not your cpu holding the frame rate back.

Your frame rate won't rise above 45fps because of ASW. Its unlikely you're just happening to be topped out at 45fps without it being ASW-related (too much of a conincidence).
Dropping the detail won't increase the frame rate above 45fps if ASW is active - because you'd need to drop a huge amount of detail to render at the 85-90 range where ASW turns OFF and you get a few synthetic frames added using ATW.

ED doesn't have the range of detail to allow that. You simply can't drop enough detail.

You can try rendering at less than normal quality - by reducing the HMD Quality setting to 0.85x, or 0.65x. This will allow MUCH faster rendering by the 1080GTX. You may see ASW turn off and achieve a high 85-90fps. But, image quality will suffer.

Or, just make sure NumLock is on, then turn ASW off with Ctrl Numpad 1. The ED frame rate will show whatever your cpu/gpu is rendering. I suspect you're probably rendering only 70--80 ish frames per sec - so ASW will turn on and you'll get 45fps with 45 synthetic frames.

I never use ASW in ED. I prefer to let ATW do its thing without ASW dropping the frame rate to 45fps.

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

30fps for RES using GTX1080? I think somehting is wrong! I am using GTX1080(non-OC) on I5-4560K(3.4GHZ) and res sites are about 60-75(using DK2). Rarely under 60. Although I do get stutters every few seconds.

Sounds similar to mine (6700K @ 4GHz, and 1080GTX). I get 75-80 ish in a RES. My faster cpu will only help a small amount if we are using similar detail settings.
RES sites are limited by the GPU usually.

X-Terminator is just seeing ASW lock the frame rate at 45fps. So his 1080GTX is probably idle 1/2 the time :/

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

The GTX 1080 TI was released just an hour ago... my order has already been processed, so i am looking forward to replace my GTX 970 with this new monster by the end of next week... From what i read here, there is a lot to expect, considering it delivers 35% more than a regular 1080...

 

[THE BLOB]

It might be down to the new firmware EVGA started using to fix the high VRM overheating. I flashed the VBIOS with the updated BIOS a few weeks ago and my 1080 FTW turbos to around 2014Mhz now and it certainly wasn't that fast before.

I got my 1080 armour to 2075 MHz where in the past I struggled to get anywhere near that, I did update my BIOS a few weeks back so maybe that is the reason

Rob