Upgrading from intel to Ryzen

Dragsham

Dragsham
Can l ask. Has anyone ever received a cpu clearly marked as it's supposed to be on the back of the chip, but ISNT when installed?
Cos thats what happened to me. The powerseller on the site we all know and distrust was prompt with the full refund + postage. And he claimed it must be a manufacturing error?
What l mean is, is it possible to remove and apply a new label to the back of the chip that doesn't rub off (yes I tried)?
All very odd I've never come across this in the 45 years of computing I've had.
 

varonica

varonica
Dragsham said:
Can l ask. Has anyone ever received a cpu clearly marked as it's supposed to be on the back of the chip, but ISNT when installed?
Cos thats what happened to me. The powerseller on the site we all know and distrust was prompt with the full refund + postage. And he claimed it must be a manufacturing error?
What l mean is, is it possible to remove and apply a new label to the back of the chip that doesn't rub off (yes I tried)?
All very odd I've never come across this in the 45 years of computing I've had.
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It's a scam, you avoided it, well done. I have seen plenty of people remove the and replace the integrated heatspreaders, it's not that difficult, I would suggest he gave you a quick and prompt refund because you have evidence he is scamming people and he didn't want you taking it any further! Just my speculation of course, but I doubt that incorrectly labelled chips are escaping from the factories, that would be huge news with the tech pundits and I haven't seen thing!
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
Blimey! "Integrated heatspreaders", I didn't know that was even possible!
So.... let's assume for a minute I found out as I did once the board posted it and I'd flashed the bios as he suggested, which would then correct the anomaly as again he suggested, only it didnt correct it, what then? How can he expect folks to just say "oh well, it's what it is", and perhaps do nothing!
For me that was never going to happen.
Whats wrong with these people!
His latest email to me is he is about to test the chip himself to see, "if I'm right!"
I can only deduce some folks just roll over and take the hit, from his perspective?
I just don't get it!
But thanks @varonica for the heads up.
That bidding company we all don't trust intervened and assured my refund.
Once I receive it I will be sure to do the appropriate feedback post.
Frankly I'm disgusted.
 
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the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
GroG79 said:
Send one of these tech sites like JayzTwoCents a mail with the details. It might get juicy
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Gamer's Nexus can be particularly tenacious when it comes to stories like these, but I doubt they'd pick up on it from one source. The only way to find out is report it - maybe they have more sources and are preparing to run with such a story.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Fraud like this is quite common, which is why you inspect the CPU carefully upon receiving it. If a part has been de-lidded and then relidded there are usually outward signs, though they can be hard to spot if the fraudster was at all careful; gluing the IHS back on with RTV silicone can look just like stock, if done right.

Individuals will swap IHSes it to save money. They buy two CPUs, cut the IHSes off and reattach the one from the more expensive model to the slower one, then return it for a refund, keeping the better chip while paying a lesser amount. If they resealed the box without obvious tampering, it might wind back up on shelves. Even if they didn't it could be sold as OEM or open-box. It's hard for retailers to do swaps like this at any kind of scale, unless one is also in the business of selling modified parts without lids, or with custom ones, which is a very niche market.

It's also perfectly possible to make counterfeit lids and then laser etch fake specifications on to them, which is done at scale by some sellers operating from areas where the costs and risks involved are low. There are huge number of counterfiet parts on Chinese marketplaces and they occasionally make it onto eBay, Amazon, or Newegg.

Anyway, there are enough tampered with and counterfiet parts on auction sites and sketchier markets that reporting it to the media isn't going to raise any eyebrows unless it happens in mainstream market and is more than just a one-off thing. You definitely want to report it though; to the marketplace operator, to any relevant consumer protection organizations, and to AMD themselves.
 
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