Hardware & Technical Virpil introduces new Mongoos T-50 Throttle
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Not surprising, really, but hey, they are listening to feedback, which is awesome. I'd rather wait a few months and get a better product.
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that's a bummer. i really couldn't care much about a 5-mode switch and some fancy led lights ...
if that's all what the feedback came up with, then there was nothing wrong with the original prototype (disclaimer: didn't read any of the feedback, just commenting on virpil's statement).
As I am not in the market as potential early adopter anyway, the delay doesn't affect me. But listening to and evaluating feeback is generally a very, very good thing. While I may sneer at Saitek products for flashy LEDs, I can see how they are very useful for that build in switchboard in the throttle's base. Too many swiches to fumble around in the dark. As for that 5 way switch instad of a toggle switch, if enough potential customers were asking for it, chances are, they have a very real and practical use for it. Better they work this feedback into the design now, than to release a slight revision of the thing half a year after release, leaving early adopters in the dust.
I'm generally mroe interested in how the throttle's build quality will eventually end up.
I'm generally mroe interested in how the throttle's build quality will eventually end up.
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I kinda get the LED, it's for visibility in a dark room, though I find I very quickly have the muscle memory thing kick in. There is also some noise for moving the thumb stick to the front of the throttle to use as an index finger analog stick.
I'm in the thumb stick camp, as I'm used to is from my CH pro, though I do see the point a lot of folk are making, as there are lots of buttons need the thumb, and having an analog stick there only increases the workload on the thumb, with a very underworked set of digits on the rest of the throttle.
Agreed - remember, most of the people buying it are DCS/combat flight sim folks, ED players will make up a small number of people purchasing this sort of hardware. Heck, most folk see a T16000M FCS setup as exorbitant in terms of pricing, try and explain why a base, with no stick, is worth more than an entire T16000M HOTAS... You need to be dedicated to go the high end HOTAS route, generally, DCS folks are, ED folks, mostly not to the same extent.
ED also benefits from having a very good control setup that works fairly evenly well with pretty much all types of controller, which means we have top players using XB1 controllers, KB & Mouse, and full blown $1000 HOTAS set ups.
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Seen these pop up on my radar a few times. The devices look really good!
How is the software side of things? As in how much can you program the buttons/axes? Is there any scripting language used or can you only map these in ED directly?
I love the flexibility of the programming on my Warthog, but if this device compares it might be my next upgrade
How is the software side of things? As in how much can you program the buttons/axes? Is there any scripting language used or can you only map these in ED directly?
I love the flexibility of the programming on my Warthog, but if this device compares it might be my next upgrade
Not sure about this one - I, sadly, have not had a chance to test it - too much work! I'd be curious though, if anyone can give it a go...
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Good to hear! Will keep these on my radar I think. Do like the design of them, and potential dual stick setup is appealing
The first variant (no analogue thumbstick) is ready for production! Looks great if you ask me, and the rotary encoders will be really good to have for flight sims. I'm considering two of them next to each other for enough buttons and throttles to simulate most of a 737
https://virpil.by/en/component/virtuemart/vpc-mongoost-50-throttle-vpc
https://virpil.by/en/component/virtuemart/vpc-mongoost-50-throttle-vpc
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For me I hope that can be used to assign the same buttons to different functions depending on where the 5 way switch is positioned. For example in a flight sim:
1. 3 encoders control altitude, heading and nav1 frequency, buttons control autopilot settings
2. 3 encoders control various navigation menu systems (rotary knobs in real life too), buttons control soft keys on the nav
3. 3 encoders control various copilot navigation menu systems...
4. 3 encoders control various engine and fuel settings + buttons and toggles
5. Hmmmm, I'm sure I'll find something
Not quite as useful for Elite of course as there are a limited amount of things you can assign to physical buttons, but I'm sure I can find a use for this feature anyways
The first variant (no analogue thumbstick) is ready for production! Looks great if you ask me, and the rotary encoders will be really good to have for flight sims. I'm considering two of them next to each other for enough buttons and throttles to simulate most of a 737
https://virpil.by/en/component/virtuemart/vpc-mongoost-50-throttle-vpc
https://virpil.by/images/stories/virtuemart/product/VPC-201_01.png
https://virpil.by/images/stories/virtuemart/product/VPC-201_04.png
https://virpil.by/images/stories/virtuemart/product/VPC-201_03.png
Looks great, but I am more looking forward to the Constellation Grip.
Sure do - right here, from the DCS forums.
On a side note, the WarBRD is on the website with a price - it'll be $200US for the base only. I was hoping it would be closer to the $150 bar, but I guess quality costs.
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