Newcomer / Intro "Wanted" are actually allies of the system faction I'm in?

[Ferry_25]

TLR Had a godafwul session. Wanted to vent. But if you care I'm curious to your input of what I did wrong. And I made sure it'll never happen again.

Had an awful session yesterday. Being in Cubeo because I truly believe in Aisling's agenda and a fierce warrior to promote her case (kidding: I just want the prisma shields) I came back from my last fruitless effort to finally find those ffing pharmaceutical isolators in the most horrendous grind I've ever seen in a game for engineering materials. I'll head to the dealer once I need those. So I wanted to check out the hospital building in the Cubeo system. Nice thing: they have 3 satellites which you can scan for data material (which AFAIK "refreshes" after a restart). I was doing that when an Anaconda dropped in, send a threat to the hospital and the hospital outed a distress call. Yes: I first SCANNED the Anaconda and it was wanted. I played my combat engineered Python so I thought "what the heck?" and opened up on him. We had a fierce combat and the system patrol showed up. I almost had him (he was on 3% hull, I was on 20 with no windscreen anymore) when I got shot down. By the system authorities, ending up in jail and 14M lighter for the insurance. So I got killed by my own troops for defending that hospital from a wanted target.
So quite flabbergasted I went out fo scan some aircraft in the system when I found a WANTED transporter. I thought: "good, some more heat vanes!" I pulled him out of FS and opened up. Only to see a bounty on my *ss coming. Suddenly I saw he was not wanted anymore... When I saw that I stopped. I didn't kill him, only took his shields down and some hull dmg. Had 200 bounty so I went back to face the music. "Small mistake, pay the bounty and get over it." Yeah. I was in jail ffing again!
I still have no idea what I did wrong in both situations and yes I know it's only a game but I still felt miserable. I also know the first part to look for any problems/ issues with game is the part between my chair and my monitor. In the Anaconda debacle all I can think is some of my bullets might have chipped off some paint from the hospital walls in the heat of the fight. But : put that dmg on my tab instead of getting shot by my own side. I can't believe the game is that anal not to be able to overlook that or make a minor deal of of that.
With the second one I guess pulling someone out of frameshift is "curing" him of being wanted.
So the main solution provider is also myself: next time I'll help the hospital of course! I'll jump to the nearest station and send a "get well soon!" postcard first thing and leave them on their own. F that! I also sold my FSD interdictor as useless junk. So those things will never happen to me again.

 

[Ashnak]

First situation: one of your shots hit the installation (hospital) or one of the cops. Happens more often with high spread weapons (like frags), long range weapons or inexperienced SLF pilots.

Second situation: you scanned the perp in SC, but you didn't scan them again after dropping to real space? Bad mistake. While in SC, the rules of the system owning faction apply. While in real space, the rules of the faction that owns that little piece of real estate apply (lore reason). If I may break the fourth wall: SC and wherever you find yourself after dropping back to real space are different instances, so technically, it's a different perp that just accidentally has the same name and flies the same ship...

And finally that bounty: yep. If you pay a bounty off at the faction that issued that bounty, the sign explicitely says "turm myself in". It does not say "pay and get out of here". There are a few ways out of that. If it's a little hole at the end of nowhere, ignore it and never return. Regular fines and bounties only apply in the local jurisdiction, and there are many of those. Alternatively, find an Interstellar Factor (usually in a low security or anarchy system) and use them as intermediary to clear your fines and bounties. No jail time involved. Or simply dump your hot ship - fines and bounties are linked to the ship, not to the pilot (that also means you must be in the ship you committed the crime with if you want to pay off your bounties - and you really, really shouldn't move any modules from your hot ship to another ship before you've cleared your bounties). Caveat: those small low sec and anarchy systems often lack large landing pads.

As for the game being that anal - not always. As your standing with the corresponding faction improves, they get a little more tolerant to stray shots. However, a single round from an engineered huge plasma cannon (or a salvo from a Pacifier) is not something even an allied faction can ignore.

Oh, and if the hospital really annoyed you: that scenario also gives you the opportunity to join the attackers .

 

[Cmdr Nemo]

TLR Had a godafwul session. Wanted to vent. But if you care I'm curious to your input of what I did wrong. And I made sure it'll never happen again.

Had an awful session yesterday. Being in Cubeo because I truly believe in Aisling's agenda and a fierce warrior to promote her case (kidding: I just want the prisma shields) I came back from my last fruitless effort to finally find those ffing pharmaceutical isolators in the most horrendous grind I've ever seen in a game for engineering materials. I'll head to the dealer once I need those. So I wanted to check out the hospital building in the Cubeo system. Nice thing: they have 3 satellites which you can scan for data material (which AFAIK "refreshes" after a restart). I was doing that when an Anaconda dropped in, send a threat to the hospital and the hospital outed a distress call. Yes: I first SCANNED the Anaconda and it was wanted. I played my combat engineered Python so I thought "what the heck?" and opened up on him. We had a fierce combat and the system patrol showed up. I almost had him (he was on 3% hull, I was on 20 with no windscreen anymore) when I got shot down. By the system authorities, ending up in jail and 14M lighter for the insurance. So I got killed by my own troops for defending that hospital from a wanted target.
So quite flabbergasted I went out fo scan some aircraft in the system when I found a WANTED transporter. I thought: "good, some more heat vanes!" I pulled him out of FS and opened up. Only to see a bounty on my *ss coming. Suddenly I saw he was not wanted anymore... When I saw that I stopped. I didn't kill him, only took his shields down and some hull dmg. Had 200 bounty so I went back to face the music. "Small mistake, pay the bounty and get over it." Yeah. I was in jail ffing again!
I still have no idea what I did wrong in both situations and yes I know it's only a game but I still felt miserable. I also know the first part to look for any problems/ issues with game is the part between my chair and my monitor. In the Anaconda debacle all I can think is some of my bullets might have chipped off some paint from the hospital walls in the heat of the fight. But what are you doing: put that dmg on my tab instead of getting shot by my own side. I can't believe the game is that anal not to be able to overlook that or make a minor deal of of that.
With the second one I guess pulling someone out of frameshift is "curing" him of being wanted.
So the main solution provider is also myself: next time I'll help the hospital of course! I'll jump to the nearest station and send a "get well soon!" postcard first thing and leave them on their own. F that! I also sold my FSD interdictor as useless junk. So those things will never happen to me again.

Look up "Friendly Fire". One killed by Friendly Fire is dead. Sure it was an accident, but how much of your lack of trigger control attribute to it. Hint: ALL of it!

 

[aRJay]

Depending on your weapons destructiveness and you reputation with the faction that owns that bit of space you can get away with one or a few stray shots onto something that isn’t targeted with no worse than a Fine which you can pay off without risk, if you hit an innocent ship that you have targeted then you are looking at a bounty and will have to leave the system to pay it off or hand yourself in and end up in jail with your ship or get destroyed and end up in jail with a rebuy as well as the bounty to pay.

I know the rules about scanning wanted ships got relaxed a while ago but I still find it advisable to check that anything I have targeted displays as wanted even if it shows red in the scanner, I had a clean hostile ship in the RES I was fighting in only a couple of weeks ago, no missions and nothing to do with Power Play so had to pay special attention until they started shooting at me which is when I left.

 

[Ferry_25]

Thanks for the answers. I actually find combat very lame in this game. And now I know I need to jump through hoops/ go through a red tape before I can start to fight I'll avoid it as much as possible. So I'll kill 2 birds with one stone: I won't risk the paint of the installations/ ships I'm trying to protect and I won't risk hitting their boyfriends anymore.