War imminent! Trail of SALT

[FudePoof]

A recap of what has happened:
The Segovan CG is a federal expansion into the areas that are known to hold barnacles.

Infuriated that there wasn't a way to counter the CG the 13th Imperial Legion (PvP group) and several Empire aligned player groups blockaded Segovan (poorly) by infiltrating a large PvE group called "Mobius". Then they proceeded to slaughter any traders entering the system.
The effort was successful in getting frontier's attention, but failed to halt the CG.

Empire PvE groups successfully changed Segovan's state into LOCKDOWN, closing the commodities market and halting the CG.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/57838a639657ba3039588b4e

Then "God" (Fdev) lifted the the lockdown because of balancing issues regarding LOCKDOWN systems. The LOCKDOWN was supposed to last three days.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/5783a8bb9657baeb5f588b48

Outraged by the hand of god, even more empire player factions threw their support behind the 13th's slaughter of MOBIUS players. This united Imperial effort succeeded in UA bombing Ramsbottom hub, closing the CG yet again.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/578622d59657bae85f588b50

Now Denton Patrues, Admiral of the Imperial Navy, has anounced he will personally be leading a fleet into Merope to protect non-human structures
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/57860dc79657ba3339588b50



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Imperials are salty, PvP'rs are salty, PvE'rs are salty, and Federation CMDRs are Salty.

I feel so out of the loop playing on the Xbone. The community is so small.....



Is this the salt that we've been waiting for?

I'm rushing to get my Cutter RNG'neer'd to be battle ready in the coming turmoil!

What an exciting time to be alive!

 

[SCSkunk]

I like your thread here, Fude, though I admit to not always agreeing with you, but who agrees with everyone all the time, right? I took special note to 'being stuck on XBOX.' While I cannot offer you a PC to play on, the East India Company, EXO, PBSF, Paladins, Atlas Corp and and other XBOX pilots have all gathered under the flag of GalCop and you'd be welcome to join us. Transcending the platform barrier to accomplish goals with our PC brethren is a daily occurrence for us. Hit me up sometime if you are curious.

And for the record, I love what's happening in Merope, though it wasn't exactly hidden from us. Wagar and Brookes have been dropping hints for weeks now to those who are paying attention!

 

[Silvergun]

"Is this the salt we've been waiting for?"

No, this will all blow over in a couple of weeks when another CG doesn't go the way FD wants.

 

[FudePoof]

I like your thread here, Fude, though I admit to not always agreeing with you, but who agrees with everyone all the time, right? I took special note to 'being stuck on XBOX.' While I cannot offer you a PC to play on, the East India Company, EXO, PBSF, Paladins, Atlas Corp and and other XBOX pilots have all gathered under the flag of GalCop and you'd be welcome to join us. Transcending the platform barrier to accomplish goals with our PC brethren is a daily occurrence for us. Hit me up sometime if you are curious.

And for the record, I love what's happening in Merope, though it wasn't exactly hidden from us. Wagar and Brookes have been dropping hints for weeks now to those who are paying attention!

You don't like me! [ugh]

I'm already part of EICo, I just don't get any orders or know what I should be actively doing.

But that's for the best, I'm still chasing engineer mods. ....stupid pharmaceutical isolators

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"Is this the salt we've been waiting for?"

No, this will all blow over in a couple of weeks when another CG doesn't go the way FD wants.

Maybe, but it looks like the future CGs are going to be based on this whole debacle.
I'm just waiting for the starks and the lannisters to go at ti.


erm.
I mean Imps and Feds

....Thargoids are coming

 

[Eros Rend]

Maybe, but it looks like the future CGs are going to be based on this whole debacle.
I'm just waiting for the starks and the lannisters to go at ti.


erm.
I mean Imps and Feds

....Thargoids are coming

I can see the galaxy going all Game of Thrones. Fighting each other when they should be preparing themselves for the upcoming Thargoid (White Walkers) invasion. People should form a "Night Watch."

 

[SCSkunk]

You don't like me! [ugh]

I'm already part of EICo, I just don't get any orders or know what I should be actively doing.

But that's for the best, I'm still chasing engineer mods. ....stupid pharmaceutical isolators

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Maybe, but it looks like the future CGs are going to be based on this whole debacle.
I'm just waiting for the starks and the lannisters to go at ti.


erm.
I mean Imps and Feds

....Thargoids are coming

The pitfalls of text comms versus voice I'm afraid. I in no way meant I did not like you! I simply meant sometimes we have different POV's, that's all! Just like anybody else. In fact, I think you are a solid contributor and an asset to the Community. You're thread on Empire-grinding? I posted that directly to our Discord and quite a few of our guys utilized it.
And you applied for EIC? I am the XBOX Manager for EIC, sounds like you and I have been missing each other. Do you have access to Discord? My GT is the same as here. Mind adding me? Let's get together and fly! We have a ton going on right now!

 

[Wolfe3]

Aahh, the joys of being independent!

Whats that old song again, oh yeah.

"War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely salvage"

"I said
War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely salvage"

 

[Silent]

Interresting, very interresting.

Seems it's time to go to war for our empress.

 

[Xaevryn]

Aahh, the joys of being independent!

Whats that old song again, oh yeah.

"War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely salvage"

"I said
War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely salvage"

Pfft, if it wasn't for the Federation and Empire going to war, what would the independents have to do?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN'

Be thankful that we're here to flesh out your universe.

 

[Wolfe3]

As an independent i have a ton of stuff to do.

400 billion stuffs to do. Plus a few extra mysterious theories floating around too.

I think the point was missed. Fed+Imp+war=lots of blown up ships=salvage

 

[FudePoof]

The pitfalls of text comms versus voice I'm afraid. I in no way meant I did not like you! I simply meant sometimes we have different POV's, that's all! Just like anybody else. In fact, I think you are a solid contributor and an asset to the Community. You're thread on Empire-grinding? I posted that directly to our Discord and quite a few of our guys utilized it.
And you applied for EIC? I am the XBOX Manager for EIC, sounds like you and I have been missing each other. Do you have access to Discord? My GT is the same as here. Mind adding me? Let's get together and fly! We have a ton going on right now!

I was only Keeding!
No harm done.

Sure, I'll add you and what not.


....I've only found 3 pharm isolator sap far.

 

[Armholeeio]

Sounds like the 13th were being massive <SFE> going after a pve only group because something isn't going their way.

 

[FudePoof]

Sounds like the 13th were being massive <SFE> going after a pve only group because something isn't going their way.

Yes, this is definitely an overly simplified summary of what happened.

But keep in mind, PvE groups play in group/solo because they don't want others to interfere with their game.
PvP'rs and open play people are having their game affected by an outside force they can't touch.

PvE'rs with game breaking immunity expect to not have people interfere with their game, but they willingly interfere with the BGS, which affects everyone's experience.
Their bullying the PP and BGS players, whether they know it or not.

I think the real issue here is that the only way to grab FD's attention about immersion/fair play breaking issues is to more or less throw a hissy fit and then a wrench into the machine.

The open/solo balancing issue isn't new, it's just that actions speak louder than words.
And that's why the 13th did what they did, and why it's so big of a deal.

There's easy ways to fix the open/solo balancing but Fdev chooses not to do anything. Ultimately this is on Fdev.

I'm glad the 13th did what they did, but I also believe anyone who died in segovan should be reimbursed their rebuys.

 

[Armholeeio]

Yes, this is definitely an overly simplified summary of what happened.

But keep in mind, PvE groups play in group/solo because they don't want others to interfere with their game.
PvP'rs and open play people are having their game affected by an outside force they can't touch.

PvE'rs with game breaking immunity expect to not have people interfere with their game, but they willingly interfere with the BGS, which affects everyone's experience.
Their bullying the PP and BGS players, whether they know it or not.

I think the real issue here is that the only way to grab FD's attention about immersion/fair play breaking issues is to more or less throw a hissy fit and then a wrench into the machine.

The open/solo balancing issue isn't new, it's just that actions speak louder than words.
And that's why the 13th did what they did, and why it's so big of a deal.

There's easy ways to fix the open/solo balancing but Fdev chooses not to do anything. Ultimately this is on Fdev.

I'm glad the 13th did what they did, but I also believe anyone who died in segovan should be reimbursed their rebuys.

But it's turning the whole community into a bunch of whiny toddlers , pvp is ruining my game( hissy fit) pve is ruining my game (hissy fit) engineers has ruined the game (hissy fit) new ai is to tough (toddler tantrum) the ai is to rubbish now( full blown fit gud toddler melt down). Instead of shrugging your shoulders and thinking oh it's only a game let's crack on with it as at the end of the day it's going to go to the devs planned out come and how they ultimately want the game to play like. We are whining like if it's really means anything. I play the game and if I crash or do something stupid it's mildly annoying but it's not effecting real life so I get on with going to work and thinking oh well it's only a game. We don't want to end up like the vocal minority on wot with the toxic abuse when ever a game is not going there way do we?

 

[DustyArne]

I will return to the bubble with my Thargoid buddies as soon as you all killed eachother.. Already told my Insect overlord i want to claim Mars High for my own..

 

[Armholeeio]

I will return to the bubble with my Thargoid buddies as soon as you all killed eachother.. Already told my Insect overlord i want to claim Mars High for my own..

you fancy your self as fabricator general of Mars then dusty? I'm sure the high lords of Terra may have thing to say about it

 

[Comrade Error]

Well screw FDev from interfering.

 

[SCSkunk]

you fancy your self as fabricator general of Mars then dusty? I'm sure the high lords of Terra may have thing to say about it

lol I literally just finished reading Mechanicum yesterday...

 

[mung0]

 

[I PORKCH0P I]

But it's turning the whole community into a bunch of whiny toddlers , pvp is ruining my game( hissy fit) pve is ruining my game (hissy fit) engineers has ruined the game (hissy fit) new ai is to tough (toddler tantrum) the ai is to rubbish now( full blown fit gud toddler melt down). Instead of shrugging your shoulders and thinking oh it's only a game let's crack on with it as at the end of the day it's going to go to the devs planned out come and how they ultimately want the game to play like. We are whining like if it's really means anything. I play the game and if I crash or do something stupid it's mildly annoying but it's not effecting real life so I get on with going to work and thinking oh well it's only a game. We don't want to end up like the vocal minority on wot with the toxic abuse when ever a game is not going there way do we?

Mate that's exactly how I feel about the forums at the moment and the reason why I've not posted much lately.
From my perspective ED has never had as much to do in it as it does right now yet I've never seen so much moaning about one thing or another destroying ED for ever.
Nice summary OP BTW.