War question

[CMDR BOSLEY]

Has anyone successfully won a war where your minor faction was attempting to take control of the system and the only station you can turn things in at is controlled by the enemy. My faction is on its second war trying since 3.3 as it seems no matter what we do it is always a defeat.

So if anyone has found some method that actually applies your efforts to the correct faction rather than the enemy's faction, we would be grateful for the info.

Edit: controlling faction had wrong government type shoing in the join a side message for CZ it was showing our faction's government type. Si the cz victory was contributing to them instead. We won the war by bounty hunting in our oyher systems and turnung the bonds in at this system.

 

[Schlack]

Has anyone successfully won a war where your minor faction was attempting to take control of the system and the only station you can turn things in atbis cintrolled bybthe enemy. My faction is on its second war trying since 3.3 as it seems no matter what we do it is always a defeat.

So if anyine has found some method that actually applies your efforts to the correct faction rather than the enemy's faction, we would be grateful for the info.

its either opposition or a bug.

if you suspect a bug, post relevant information here:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/474742-Possible-influence-attribution-error-in-Election

we have had similar experience in election. We cannot rule out opposition 100%.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

Unless the opposition is in playstation 4 or hiding in solo/private we have none.

 

[Ryan Murdoc]

Unless the opposition is in playstation 4 or hiding in solo/private we have none.

Regardless of the Platform (PS4, XBOX, PC) and instance type (Open / PG / Solo) anyone can affect the BGS.

 

[Lee Ti]

Unless the opposition is in playstation 4 or hiding in solo/private we have none.

Have you checked the in station system traffic reports?

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

Not much traffic, and if we have any opposition, it us very few people doing an excellent job, the guys and i spent 7hrs doing loops of all the conflict zones and the station turning in our missions and bonds. That is a ton of victories.

 

[Adept Geraden]

We've won several. My advice would be to forget the "combat missions", and just win the CZ's and hand in the bonds. If still unsuccessful, then it's a bug and should be reported.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

We've won several. My advice would be to forget the "combat missions", and just win the CZ's and hand in the bonds. If still unsuccessful, then it's a bug and should be reported.

Just double checking, were the wars against the controlling faction and you took over the system from them? Also the station you turned things in at controlled by the enemy who controls the system.

 

[Adept Geraden]

Just double checking, were the wars against the controlling faction and you took over the system from them? Also the station you turned things in at controlled by the enemy who controls the system.

Correct. Chongguls, today. Note that eddb.io hasn't registered the change of system control yet. It is correct on Inara and elitebgs.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

We managed to win a day by turning in only bounties and bond from our other systems. Which leads me think victories in the cz are being attributed wrong in this system.

 

[Schlack]

We managed to win a day by turning in only bounties and bond from our other systems. Which leads me think victories in the cz are being attributed wrong in this system.

can you take a screenshot of the join cz battle message in comms panel? Are the govt types correct for both factions. I have noticed that sometimes one faction displays the govt type of the other. I am wondering it that is a symptom of the bug. I didnt think to try to correlate the two, waiting for it to reappear in some of our conflicts. This is only a wild theory for now!

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

can you take a screenshot of the join cz battle message in comms panel? Are the govt types correct for both factions. I have noticed that sometimes one faction displays the govt type of the other. I am wondering it that is a symptom of the bug. I didnt think to try to correlate the two, waiting for it to reappear in some of our conflicts. This is only a wild theory for now!

I'll take a look and let you know.


EDIT: So I checked the join faction messages and just as you said the faction government is incorrect. The enemy faction is supposed to be a patronage but it is showing corporation which is what my faction is.
Once the screenshot finishes uploading I will edit this post with a link.


Edit 2: screenshot
https://twitter.com/AaronBosley/status/1090415392042958849?s=20

 

[Jane Turner]

can you take a screenshot of the join cz battle message in comms panel? Are the govt types correct for both factions. I have noticed that sometimes one faction displays the govt type of the other. I am wondering it that is a symptom of the bug. I didnt think to try to correlate the two, waiting for it to reappear in some of our conflicts. This is only a wild theory for now!

Oh that's a wild theory that has piqued my interest. Oh for a time machine.

 

[Schlack]

I'll take a look and let you know.


EDIT: So I checked the join faction messages and just as you said the faction government is incorrect. The enemy faction is supposed to be a patronage but it is showing corporation which is what my faction is.
Once the screenshot finishes uploading I will edit this post with a link.


Edit 2: screenshot
https://twitter.com/AaronBosley/status/1090415392042958849?s=20

Thanks Bosley, will try to confirm ourselves too.

Hopefully, if the theory holds, this will allow us to avoid working against ourselves and help FDEV identify the bug.

Also planet express faction?

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

Thanks Bosley, will try to confirm ourselves too.

Hopefully, if the theory holds, this will allow us to avoid working against ourselves and help FDEV identify the bug.

Also planet express faction?

Yeah, we(Planet Express) have avoided the cz's and just turned in bounties and have turnerd the war around. So it seems like pretty solid evidence that the conflict zone scenarios are the issue.

The 2 very visible pieces being the wrong faction government type and the second being the significant decrease in reputation for the enemy not taking effect.

 

[Adept Geraden]

can you take a screenshot of the join cz battle message in comms panel? Are the govt types correct for both factions. I have noticed that sometimes one faction displays the govt type of the other. I am wondering it that is a symptom of the bug. I didnt think to try to correlate the two, waiting for it to reappear in some of our conflicts. This is only a wild theory for now!

We've recently had two wars in two different systems where this was an issue, with both factions showing the government type of the second faction.

We won both wars, just doing the CZ and handing in the bounties.

 

[Schlack]

We've recently had two wars in two different systems where this was an issue, with both factions showing the government type of the second faction.

We won both wars, just doing the CZ and handing in the bounties.

Thanks, damnit, though we had something there.

 

[Adept Geraden]

I still think the combat missions taken from the board are a major part of the issue. We had one war where one of our gung-ho combat pilots did a stack of these on the first day. Needless to say, we lost the first day. After that we just cleared the CZ's and handed in the combat bonds, and won with a total victory.

Not saying this is the total answer to everyones problems, but a contributing factor amongst many bugs and simple unknowns.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

I still think it's the cz's its a possibility that you were getting more bonds worth on influence than the conflict zones were putting out. Also the 2 wars you were speaking of were they against the controlling faction who had the wrong gov type?

 

[Adept Geraden]

............... Also the 2 wars you were speaking of were they against the controlling faction who had the wrong gov type?

One of them was, yes.

EDIT: actually, the controlling faction had the correct government type. It was our government type that was indicated incorrectly. Subtle, but possibly important point.