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Pheyes

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There are two players in vipers at Beta Sculptoris loaded with just missles shooting cmdrs inside the station and outside be warned, don't go here in open play as you will be killed by them. pm me if you want to know there names.
 
Griefer and his dumbfires

I was running a luxuries trade route and was constantly interdicted by griefers, whom upon interdicting, did a silent run, followed by dumbfires.

I'm in an Anaconda, shielded, I lost my shields once during the interdiction but was able to avoid the dumbfire shots for the most part and never took damage.

One of those players I guess got frustrated and attempted to take me out while docking in station, camping inside the port with his dumbfires, he ALMOST killed me as I was docking.

How can I possibly counter dumbfires? How can I counter a griefer camping in station specifically?

He lost his cobra, which probably cost about 100k or something, but I had to spend millions in repair.

EDIT: Looks like this post is talking about the same guys...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=105117
 
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ciger

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i would have never believed i say something like: "switch to solo", dumbfires are stupidly op now. hull damage is fine, but should not be effective vs shields so much
 
Disable PDT before docking until FD fixes the station-aggro bug. Beyond that: FD announced they will seriously nerf dumbfires soon. They will still do massive hull damage but will be near-useless versus shields. So these 'griefers' (never mind that discussion!) have to take down your shield first before they can suckerpunch you, and it is up to you to prevent that from happening.
 

Pheyes

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Disable PDT before docking until FD fixes the station-aggro bug. Beyond that: FD announced they will seriously nerf dumbfires soon. They will still do massive hull damage but will be near-useless versus shields. So these 'griefers' (never mind that discussion!) have to take down your shield first before they can suckerpunch you, and it is up to you to prevent that from happening.

You don't stand a chance I was in a A class cobra and the killed me in seconds
 
I was running a luxuries trade route and was constantly interdicted by griefers, whom upon interdicting, did a silent run, followed by dumbfires.

I'm in an Anaconda, shielded, I lost my shields once during the interdiction but was able to avoid the dumbfire shots for the most part and never took damage.

One of those players I guess got frustrated and attempted to take me out while docking in station, camping inside the port with his dumbfires, he ALMOST killed me as I was docking.

How can I possibly counter dumbfires? How can I counter a griefer camping in station specifically?

He lost his cobra, which probably cost about 100k or something, but I had to spend millions in repair.

EDIT: Looks like this post is talking about the same guys...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=105117


Just play in solo or private group, the morons can't get to you there :)
 
Disable PDT before docking until FD fixes the station-aggro bug. Beyond that: FD announced they will seriously nerf dumbfires soon. They will still do massive hull damage but will be near-useless versus shields. So these 'griefers' (never mind that discussion!) have to take down your shield first before they can suckerpunch you, and it is up to you to prevent that from happening.


Thats good news.
 
In theory a single frag cannon round should take out all DF missiles. Its an AOE weapon, although I have never tried it
 
Its not griefing. He is a pirate with legitimate game play.
Well, there are many vocal on this forum that would try to get you to believe that anyway.
 

Pheyes

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Its not griefing. He is a pirate with legitimate game play.
Well, there are many vocal on this forum that would try to get you to believe that anyway.

so the guy sitting inside the station above the pad shooting ships taking off with missles is pirateing?
 
Its not griefing. He is a pirate with legitimate game play.
Well, there are many vocal on this forum that would try to get you to believe that anyway.

Yes it is griefing. It exploiting the landing pad hover DF attack. You sit above the landing pad with permission to lad (you have 10 mins) as soon as someone comes in to lad you target them and fire the missiles. Then you land. You will probably have a fine but because you are landed you can pay it off and are free to leave. The other pilot will either die to the missiles or die to the station defences due to point defence missing the missiles and plinking the station.
 
Its not griefing. He is a pirate with legitimate game play.
Well, there are many vocal on this forum that would try to get you to believe that anyway.

No, that is the very definition of griefing. I have posted dozens of times in support of legitimate play and I do know the differerence between 'playing the game' and being an idiot.
 
so the guy sitting inside the station above the pad shooting ships taking off with missles is pirateing?

What exactly is he pirating? What loot / cargo is he getting? Since theft / looting is the core principal of pirating.
Otherwise it's griefing as the OP stated.
 
Its not griefing. He is a pirate with legitimate game play.
Well, there are many vocal on this forum that would try to get you to believe that anyway.

I don't really care what it is called just looking for a way too counter it.as it is now I could buy an adder load it up with dumb fires and take out any ship attempting to land In a station before a station can even take me out.
 
What exactly is he pirating? What loot / cargo is he getting? Since theft / looting is the core principal of pirating.
Otherwise it's griefing as the OP stated.

Its a strawman. Practically noone is saying this is pirating, including pirates, or even legitimite gameplay. Hardly anyone considers random murder to be piracy, either. The debate is mostly about whether or not random murder without using exploits is legit gameplay or not. In my opinion people have the right to act like jerks, others think it should not be allowed. By pretending 'many' people are considering station exploiting to be ok okay a complex discussion is turned into nonsense. Ignore it.
 
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