Hi guys,
I've seen the new livestream and was a bit disappointed in the waterrides. (amazed by the wooden coasters though) Not about the physics are something like that as waterrides are not the main focus and that is to be expected! And they look amazing, too! But there were no special elements shown. Even if there are some it will most likely be as few as in RCT3. In real life there are DOZENS of different special elements for log and water rapids rides:
River rapids:
I've already been to many different ones in many different countries in my life. The more interesting elements were vortexes with a dropdown in the middle (a metal plate in the middle where you drop on and then slide down afterwards) and an two elevators system which pushes up the round rapid ride boats. (the only park where I saw elevators used was Phantasialand in Germany. River Quest: https://youtu.be/bnjnhgCZKKo?t=1m22s It was AMAZING and my favourite water rapids due to the elevators - you get pushed into the elevator it drives up and then the part where the boat is standing on tilts and drops you down a long and wet slide)
There are many more but those two were the more interesting ones I encountered. I guess normal elements like waterfalls on the sides and water sprinklers to the faces and rough water will most likely be in enven though not shown. But we REALLY need some more interesting special elements like in real life parks!
Log rides:
Driving backwards, a hill after the largest drop which you travel over before crushing into the water. That way you can make a much higher and more tilted drop because some of the energy is taken out before hitting the water. (Poseidon in Europapark or Chiapas in Phantasialand are good examples for such a final drop with a small hill before hitting the water) See https://youtu.be/VOwDbQkoUlU?t=4m21s to see what I mean. You can keep the suspense high for a few seconds longer that way, too.
Other elements would be driving backwards and backwards drop (used in almost every log ride I know except for those travelling ones which are used on festivals), parts where you are turned by 90° before dropping and parts where you get pushed to the left or right to switch the watertrack. (Chiapas has all those elements, Poseidon has the 90° turn before drop)
Another element would be hybrid water/coaster rides like in Disneyland Paris and Efteling in netherlands (de vliegende hollander) where you got both - swimming sections and coaster sections which push you into the water like a normal waterride drop would.
Those are just some highlights from waterrides I used so far. There are MANY MORE special elements around the globe in water rides. Those are just the ones from countries with high safety standards which have to go trought things like TÜV or similar government companies which have to give it a seal of approval from teams of engineers and inspectors to be allowed. --> none of those ideas are farout crazy things due to all those safety standards and hence fit perfectly into this game as everything looks like it has the highest safety standards. (with really modern breaks, carts and layouts for the designs for all safety features)
Those elements are all a must have to make those waterrides interesting and should all be included. Else you might as well not have waterrides until an expansion pack for it comes out. It's like having no option for loopings for inverted steel coasters. It would be a huge disappointment to have something that lackluster in a game that amazing! Please add plenty of special elements for the waterrides! [yesnod]
You guys can go ahead and post more special elements which you saw in real life waterrides to give the devs some more ideas as they are from the USA and there waterrides are mostly pretty boring from what I've seen so far with just a few exceptions. I think they just don't know how many amazing elements for waterrides there actually are in Europe!
I've seen the new livestream and was a bit disappointed in the waterrides. (amazed by the wooden coasters though) Not about the physics are something like that as waterrides are not the main focus and that is to be expected! And they look amazing, too! But there were no special elements shown. Even if there are some it will most likely be as few as in RCT3. In real life there are DOZENS of different special elements for log and water rapids rides:
River rapids:
I've already been to many different ones in many different countries in my life. The more interesting elements were vortexes with a dropdown in the middle (a metal plate in the middle where you drop on and then slide down afterwards) and an two elevators system which pushes up the round rapid ride boats. (the only park where I saw elevators used was Phantasialand in Germany. River Quest: https://youtu.be/bnjnhgCZKKo?t=1m22s It was AMAZING and my favourite water rapids due to the elevators - you get pushed into the elevator it drives up and then the part where the boat is standing on tilts and drops you down a long and wet slide)
There are many more but those two were the more interesting ones I encountered. I guess normal elements like waterfalls on the sides and water sprinklers to the faces and rough water will most likely be in enven though not shown. But we REALLY need some more interesting special elements like in real life parks!
Log rides:
Driving backwards, a hill after the largest drop which you travel over before crushing into the water. That way you can make a much higher and more tilted drop because some of the energy is taken out before hitting the water. (Poseidon in Europapark or Chiapas in Phantasialand are good examples for such a final drop with a small hill before hitting the water) See https://youtu.be/VOwDbQkoUlU?t=4m21s to see what I mean. You can keep the suspense high for a few seconds longer that way, too.
Other elements would be driving backwards and backwards drop (used in almost every log ride I know except for those travelling ones which are used on festivals), parts where you are turned by 90° before dropping and parts where you get pushed to the left or right to switch the watertrack. (Chiapas has all those elements, Poseidon has the 90° turn before drop)
Another element would be hybrid water/coaster rides like in Disneyland Paris and Efteling in netherlands (de vliegende hollander) where you got both - swimming sections and coaster sections which push you into the water like a normal waterride drop would.
Those are just some highlights from waterrides I used so far. There are MANY MORE special elements around the globe in water rides. Those are just the ones from countries with high safety standards which have to go trought things like TÜV or similar government companies which have to give it a seal of approval from teams of engineers and inspectors to be allowed. --> none of those ideas are farout crazy things due to all those safety standards and hence fit perfectly into this game as everything looks like it has the highest safety standards. (with really modern breaks, carts and layouts for the designs for all safety features)
Those elements are all a must have to make those waterrides interesting and should all be included. Else you might as well not have waterrides until an expansion pack for it comes out. It's like having no option for loopings for inverted steel coasters. It would be a huge disappointment to have something that lackluster in a game that amazing! Please add plenty of special elements for the waterrides! [yesnod]
You guys can go ahead and post more special elements which you saw in real life waterrides to give the devs some more ideas as they are from the USA and there waterrides are mostly pretty boring from what I've seen so far with just a few exceptions. I think they just don't know how many amazing elements for waterrides there actually are in Europe!
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