We are potentially staring down the barrel of another entire year for Fdev to even fix their mistakes.

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Punished Mobius

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We are potentially staring down the barrel of another entire year for Fdev to even fix their mistakes.

Just like with Exquisite Focus crystals being unreasonably impossible to find for an entire year. We probably aren't going to see a change to the beige and as far as I am concerned "bugged" and broken planets colors for a full 365 days at least. Fdev has been content to allow things that are clearly broken to continue to exist in game for ungodly lengths of time why should this be any different? Many people complained that they could have taken care of some of these things in a hot fix just like that (not the planets but almost everything else). And they are absolutely right. Fdev probably could have. But they chose not to. And I am sure with this update we will get a new batch of shenanigan's to be added to the "eventually" list. While in the meantime we will be forced to deal with the bugs whatever they end up being. For whatever length of time we are cursed to suffer them this time around. Though thankfully I do think that the worst of the bugs has past. So it won't be AS horrible this time. Hopefully...

I don't mind waiting a long time for an update that is just how that works. But you can't be allowed to stagger bug fixes to line up with updates like you seem to have done in the past. It really devalues the content of the actual updates when I am more excited about a bug going away than I am any actual new content coming in.

All I really ask is if there is some shenanigan's that arises. Just jump on it within the first month. Don't make us wait almost a year for whatever nonsense that will be plaguing us to be done away with. Take your time developing content, do it right. But for the bugs that will inevitability come up you need to put that pedal to the metal. 0 tolerance. No quarter. Hoorah! Only good bug is a dead bug. That is the attitude I want to see when it comes to bug fixes.
 

Heavenly-Hammer

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Yes, them doing smaller fixes and patches maybe bi-weekly would be smart and allow us to avoid situations where weapons are imbalanced or ECF are missing from the game for 3 months. Not everything should need to wait for a mega patch.
 

Blackcompany

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Heavenly-Hammer said:
Yes, them doing smaller fixes and patches maybe bi-weekly would be smart and allow us to avoid situations where weapons are imbalanced or ECF are missing from the game for 3 months. Not everything should need to wait for a mega patch.
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Agreed.

Though, weapon imbalance wouldn't be such an issue if it weren't for the space magic garbage of the RNGineers.
 
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zzehirbazz

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Since we don`t have the faintest idea of what they are working on in the background, behind closed doors, there is no way you can tell if they already haven`t came up with a solution in-house or about to. As far as I know with each update they are bringing new features much more than any other game developer does with their updates (compare 4 months of wait for each update and the amount of changes they bring with other developers and you will see what I mean). And with each update process they are also experimenting with how to develop the game further, if they hit a wall which they couldn`t see, they remove it and work on it even more till it is better.

Don`t forget that a game with the scale of Elite is not something most developers would try to make in the first place, because it is requires years of dedication which I have seen only in the following games: "World Of Warcraft" and "EVE Online". Therefore they can NOT foresee the future of it happening exactly as they planned 4 years ago. If you ask me, seeing that they are adding features that were long forgotten seems like they have an elaborate schedule of things that we don`t even know but will fit like tetris blocks as a whole in the end.

Remember that the game is huge in scale and is early access. Like it or not.
 

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zzehirbazz said:
Since we don`t have the faintest idea of what they are working on in the background, behind closed doors, there is no way you can tell if they already haven`t came up with a solution in-house or about to. As far as I know with each update they are bringing new features much more than any other game developer does with their updates (compare 4 months of wait for each update and the amount of changes they bring with other developers and you will see what I mean). And with each update process they are also experimenting with how to develop the game further, if they hit a wall which they couldn`t see, they remove it and work on it even more till it is better.

Don`t forget that a game with the scale of Elite is not something most developers would try to make in the first place, because it is requires years of dedication which I have seen only in the following games: "World Of Warcraft" and "EVE Online". Therefore they can NOT foresee the future of it happening exactly as they planned 4 years ago. If you ask me, seeing that they are adding features that were long forgotten seems like they have an elaborate schedule of things that we don`t even know but will fit like tetris blocks as a whole in the end.

Remember that the game is huge in scale and is early access. Like it or not.
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That's funny.

Early Access, I mean.

Didn't see that ANYWHERE on the store page.

The game is being sold as a game whose extant Mechanics are finished, full featured Mechanics. So why is that not how the game is actually being developed?
 

DefiledDragon

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zzehirbazz said:
Since we don`t have the faintest idea of what they are working on in the background, behind closed doors, there is no way you can tell if they already haven`t came up with a solution in-house or about to. As far as I know with each update they are bringing new features much more than any other game developer does with their updates (compare 4 months of wait for each update and the amount of changes they bring with other developers and you will see what I mean). And with each update process they are also experimenting with how to develop the game further, if they hit a wall which they couldn`t see, they remove it and work on it even more till it is better.

Don`t forget that a game with the scale of Elite is not something most developers would try to make in the first place, because it is requires years of dedication which I have seen only in the following games: "World Of Warcraft" and "EVE Online". Therefore they can NOT foresee the future of it happening exactly as they planned 4 years ago. If you ask me, seeing that they are adding features that were long forgotten seems like they have an elaborate schedule of things that we don`t even know but will fit like tetris blocks as a whole in the end.

Remember that the game is huge in scale and is early access. Like it or not.
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The Galaxy is huge in scale. The actual mechanics of the game are not. If the game took place in a single system, or a cluster of a dozen systems, would you still describe it as "huge in scale"? I'm guessing probably not.

Fixing an OP weapon or a broken module does not require any work on the 400 billion star systems at all. It requires work on that one weapon or module. As for planet colouration, they have indicated that it's an undesired side effect of the evolution of the rendering engine so maybe that will improve over time. How much time is as yet unknown, at least by the players.

As for "other developers", well SWTOR gets regular updates with a decent amount of content (actual content, not just "now I can shoot other ships inside a smaller ship that I launch from my bigger ship") and lots of bug fixes balance passes and optimisations. STO gets frequent updates too, featuring all of the above. FD are not gods among developers as some people seem to think they are.
 

cmdr_Sisko

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ahh, give 'em a break. they're very open with their development process, little things like this are bound to slip through the cracks.
 

NascentChemist

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While no one is defending a bug like EFC staying in for over a year, FDev has explicitly stated they don't want to release small updates every week. They worry that rushing patches like that could cause more harm than good. Instead, FDev wants more time to try and balance things before releasing updates.
 
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