We need more Oceania representation

Hi I am from Australia and there's not much representation in the game for Oceania so I have some suggestions that are common animals in our zoos or they are often seen or known of from Australia, Papua New Guinea and New Zealand.

Australia and PNG:
Qoull
Common brushtail possum
Ring tail possum
Sugar glider
Bilbys
Echidna
Bandicoot
Rakali
Tree kangaroo
Pademelons
Numbat
Carpet pythons
Red back spider
Red belly black snake
Bearded dragon
Shingle back lizard
Frill neck lizard
Huon tree kangaroo
Tenkile

Papua New Guinea and Australia have similar biodiversities but with different species of animals

New Zealand:
Kākāpō
Takahe
Hamiltons frog
Tautara
Weka
Long tailed bat
Short tailed bats
 
Speaking as a New Zealander, for the scope of a game like Planet Zoo, NZ's representation is pretty much fine. All it really needs is the tuatara.

The kakapo has always been and will always be a poor choice for a zoo game. It is not a zoo animal, not in New Zealand, and especially not anywhere else in the world. It never will be. The takahe is special to NZ, but again, this isn't a species that will ever have international representation. NZ's native frogs are ridiculously small, thumbnail-sized, which is smaller than any exhibit animal currently in the game. They are pretty much impossible to see in real life even when on display. Putting them in the game would be pointless. Our short-tailed bats have never been successfully kept in captivity (Auckland's experiment failed). Weka are also not an especially iconic bird.

The tuatara is really it. You can build a convincing NZ zoo with the kiwi and tuatara alone; the little blue penguin is an added bonus. Until the day comes where they release a zoo game with flying birds, there isn't much else to ask for with regards to New Zealand.

For Australia, I feel confident in suggesting that in terms of global reach the only animals really still needed are one of the desert monitors (preferably the lace monitor for myself, but the perentie is more popular), the tree kangaroo (not something I personally care about but again, popular), and exhibit animals (of which there could really be another ten for Australia, as Australian reptiles are extremely common in the captive trade, both between zoos and in private ownership; at minimum I'd like to see the bearded dragon added).

Of course, it's all a moot point. At best I'd expect the tree kangaroo to potentially show up in our final DLC as it's high on the community wishlist.
 
Fair but the Australian and png animals Def's need another pack. Europe, Africa and America has alot of its animals covered but Australia not so much. There's a free Ipswich wildlife sanctuary with most of those Australian animals especially biblies, they have a Bilby breeding program there. Echidnas are there and in Steve Irwin's Australia zoo. Qoulls also in most sanctuaries here. I'd like to make a full Oceania zoo like Africa and other continents but at the moment I can't
 
Fair but the Australian and png animals Def's need another pack.
Do they, though? The most iconic animals are already covered, except, as I said, a desert monitor and the tree kangaroo. They already threw an extra bone to Oceanian players with the Oceania Pack.

It won't happen regardless, there's only one more DLC left. The best you can hope for is a mixed bag DLC that contains maybe one more Oceanian species to cover something popular.
 
Do they, though? The most iconic animals are already covered, except, as I said, a desert monitor and the tree kangaroo. They already threw an extra bone to Oceanian players with the Oceania Pack.

It won't happen regardless, there's only one more DLC left. The best you can hope for is a mixed bag DLC that contains maybe one more Oceanian species to cover something popular.
True, it won’t happen but I’d still argue that, other than SA2, another Australia / Oceania pack would be better than any alternative region-based pack.
 
True, it won’t happen but I’d still argue that, other than SA2, another Australia / Oceania pack would be better than any alternative region-based pack.
What haha

While SA is still missing some important animals Oceanía got all the big names and has more than fair representation, specially when it comes to worldwide zoo animals. I still would love the echidna and the perentie but i don't think it needs ANOTHER pack focus on that region when South América is still missing things like the rhea, coati and a lot of iconic monkeys.
 
What haha

While SA is still missing some important animals Oceanía got all the big names and has more than fair representation, specially when it comes to worldwide zoo animals. I still would love the echidna and the perentie but i don't think it needs ANOTHER pack focus on that region when South América is still missing things like the rhea, coati and a lot of iconic monkeys.
As you’ll note if you read what I wrote, I explicitly said SA is more needed and would be better.
 
As you’ll note if you read what I wrote, I explicitly said SA is more needed and would be better.
Oh sorry. Yeah i missread that completly haha

I agree with u then 🤣

I think there is enough interesting species to fill a whole animal pack:

1. Tree kangaroo
2. Short beaked echidna
3. Victoria crowned pigeon
4. Numbat
5. Greater bilby
6. Perentie
7. Yellow footed rock wallaby or a quoll
8. Ex: frilled lizard or tuatara or WTE: sugar gliders

That's nice variety even though i could do with just four of those i find all of those animals interesting and different from what we have already.
 
another Australia / Oceania pack would be better than any alternative region-based pack.
I wholly disagree. And like you, I'm from this region.

I don't even think South America is that important except for monkeys. IMO Africa is what is needed again the most. Controversial, no doubt, but between the myriad antelope, baboons, serval, and popular groundbirds (pelican, secretarybird, ground hornbill, guineafowl), and even reptiles (Nile crocodile, spurred or leopard tortoise, and for exhibits, obviously chameleons), Africa has the most to offer for a rounded pack.
 
Imo oceania currently isnt about whats needed but whats neat.
Id agree with most people that since oceania the bases are coverd, but similar to europe pre eurasia pack theres still some polish left to had.
Oceania is currently pretty bare bones, featuring mostly one animal for every region, maybe two, but thats it mostly.
Ofcourse like everywhere besides the americas and by now europe, exhibits are severly underdeveloped in quantity and basically a lost battle, but on the habitat side theres a bit more hope.

Priority nr 1 should be in any case to add the short beaked echidna. Besides being one of the more common australian mammals internationally and neatly putting a bow on the monotremes this guy hears australian and says mine. Look at this.
This is crazy literally everywhere, which is what we need. Every 1 will be a 2, every 2 a 3 and so one.
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Next up on the surprisingly common in international collections and has a very wide range is the common brush tailed possum and where the shortbeaked echidna is rediculiously specific yet unspecific in how its used. Short beaked echidnas work as a filler animal, but the common brush tailed possum IS a filler animal and just like the quokka, thats amazing.
Australia is really missing just some random critters to fluff up its roster and the possum is in a prime position to be one of the best options.
It would also be very neat to have an aboreal animal that is not a koala, cause while the possum might not be equivalent of a monkey, when compared to a bear shaped marsupial sloth its still very agile in comparison. For example unlike koalas they can jump into a direction that isnt downwards.
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The other two must have would be a monitor and a waterfowl, with both having 2 major tempting options.
For monitors our two prime candidates are the lace and the perentie, presenting the option between a more ballanced or a more hard winning approach.
Both chare the fact that they are good climbers, with the perentie also being a great digger, so they defenetly got something going on gameplay wise.
The perentie is also not that much less common then the lace, being everywhere comparable besides the fact that they are absent from europe besides israel while the lace has a decent population there.
Really the main difference between them is if we want to focus on the temperate east or the desert central and wester parts of australia with both having its pros and cons.
The main pro going for the perentie is the fact that it helps out the more underrepresented region, bosting the outback together with the echidna from just 3 animals in the red kangaroo, emu and dingo to 5, a quite decent number, but still the difference between 4 and 5 isnt that big. Most smaller sections are 3-4 animals, so reaching atleast 3 is the critical point, but anything above 4 is mostly just to pick and choose or to make it that tiny bit bigger. Meanwhile from ~7ish animals the appeal of a larger section rises again, therefore the appeal of the animals, leaving the 5. and 6. animal lowkey in the dust.
Meanwhile temperate australia is just there for that critical turning point, featuring with our two prior additions temperate australia goes up from 7 to 9 animals, moving past that critical point where larger and more elaborate areas are viable options. In addition to that, temperate australia will generally benefit more from most additions as there are just more possible additions to choose from in the much friendlier ecosystem then the harsh desert.
Both are completly valid options and it ends up with personal preferance, even if choosing both would be ideal without diminishing each other thanks to their quite different coloration and biome..
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Regarding the waterfowl the discussion is atleast to me primarly between the magpie goose, a primitive anseriform that atleast to me looks more like an aquatic vulture and the beautiful black swan. Both got some clear pros and cons, but first the chared stuff. For one both are among the more common australian animals found internationally, especally the black swanand both would fill the niche of waterfowl, enritchting wetland areas the most with a third water scentric creature to add next to the saltie and platypus, but even more importantly they can serve as an ambience animal in ponds and waterfowl collections.
Their main differentiating factors are uniqueness and range.
The blackswans main triumph is the fact that it lives a little bit all over the place, being found in most places with water that are neither desert or tropical, aswell as tasmania. Meanwhile the magpie goose is mostly restricted to the tropical and suptropical wetlands of northern australia, aswell as a temperate coastral strip in southern australia during their breeding season, but also southern new guinea. Again just like the monitors both would work well next to each other if not even more so due to the larger differences in appearance, but the blackswan would do better for the temperate australia black aswell as the west, while the magpie goose would give the underdeleoped north and new guinea some love, both valid preferences, even if personally new guinea does edge the magpie goose out here.
Regarding uniqueness though, the black swan is as close to a clone as acceptable and the magpie goose is a complete freak, which again opens up pros and cons.
Would it be kinda boring if both of our waterfowl would be swans? Yes
Would they still work really well together? Also yes
The cost factor of the black swan severly favors it regarding acual liklihood, meanwhile the magpiegoose would just be the more interesting standalone animal, especally as colouring the mute swans feathers black and the beak red sounds like a prime modder job.
On the other hand if we would get a hypothetical austalia 3 pack down the line, the black swan would eliviate financial pressure and allow more time and budget to flow into the other content of the pack, which really cant hurt regarding the shortbeaked king of uganda or our first climbing habitat reptiles, so as most things in life its a give or take.
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But these are atleast my two cents on the matter of what i, a non oceanian, would prioritise in another oceania/australia focused pack if we are talking about just fleshing out the region to get to a spot where it feels like atleast mainland australia needs nothing else to add.
Sure there are still great animals to add to the surrounding islands like the victoria crowned pidgeon, pig nosed turtle and especally tree kangaroo to new guinea or the kunekune pig to new zealand. but thats just what happens when grouping such diverse and different ecosystems together. Sometimes some have to be cut short and from a discussion standpoint, i sang all threes praises enough before, slapping them together with the echidna might be efficent, but also boring and wouldnt tackle the main problem of lack of polish oceania has. Id rather have a polished up australia with okayish representation for new guinea instead of an okayish representation for both, even if i really really love new guinea and its fauna and would have no problem with an entire new guinea pack
 
Gotta agree here, Oceania is now in a spot similar to most areas where pretty much all of the highlighter and star animals are covered, but is missing alot of filler animals.
So i definetly would like some more critters from there. And imo alot of the potential animals are surprisingly usefull
The tree kangaroo and echidna are probably the most obvious two additions.
Mammal wise i would also like the brushtail possum and/or a qoull, both are not only small climbing fillers for the region but also usefull for nighthouses overseas in which one can see them decently often.
Waterbirds like the australian pelican and the before mention black swan and magpie goose would all be nice additions to just about every zoo, and OCE could really use a birds thats not a ratite or penguin.
What oceania also really could use is another habitat reptile, imo its a little silly for australia being the continent of reptiles yet we only have the saltie. So an australian monitor is pretty much a must. Personally id much rather get something like the goulds monitor over the more requested perentie since its alot smaller, around the size of the dwarf caiman and therefore offers something different than the 3 we already have (which are 3 out of the 4 largest lizards in the world).
Tying in with the previous point i think we really could use some more exhibits for the are. The skink is great but imo the bearded and frilled dragon are both icons for the continent and should both be in game aswell. Also would like something like a carpet or the scrub python, which would provide the game first python and a snake that doesnt look like it slithered out of a playstaion 2 tomb raider game (looking at you basegame snakes).
The tuatara is pretty self explainatory, the last living member of its group, important conservation story and the most know NZ animal after the kiwi.
Personally id would also really like the pilbara rock monitor for the simple fact that its my favorite animal, although since they constantly move around and pretty much never sit still they dont really fit the exhibit.
 
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I wholly disagree. And like you, I'm from this region.

I don't even think South America is that important except for monkeys. IMO Africa is what is needed again the most. Controversial, no doubt, but between the myriad antelope, baboons, serval, and popular groundbirds (pelican, secretarybird, ground hornbill, guineafowl), and even reptiles (Nile crocodile, spurred or leopard tortoise, and for exhibits, obviously chameleons), Africa has the most to offer for a rounded pack.
Fair enough - for me, though, a list of those additions could be bettered by a list from Oceania…. Totally subjective of course.

Yellow footed rock wallaby
Echidna
Parentie or lace monitor
Pelican
Lyre bird
Tree kangaroo
Nene or cape barren goose
Tuatara (ex)
…. And that’s leaving out lots of great options: bilby, numbat, quoll, other macropods,…. Etc.
 
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