I thought I'd do the trip to Hutton Orbital in Alpha Centauri just so I could say I had (for anyone unfamiliar it's 0.22Ly away from where you jump in, i.e. over 6 million Ls), so picked up a mission to deliver there knowing full well the huge trek ahead of me. Fast forward some time later, and upon landing my ship integrity had fallen to 32%, which is the lowest I've ever seen it, including several long long long haul trips out into the void with no opportunity for servicing. I just wondered if there was something about the length of time in supercruise or the time in supercruise at high speed that was factored into the Wear and Tear calculation that was causing it to be unduly harsh like this, or if the 250k repair bill for my Cobra was standard and intended for a Hutton Orbital visit! I've thrown a ticket in as well just in case it is a bug, but wondered if others had similar experience of a Hutton Orbital trip?
Wear and tear from a trip to Hutton Orbital - ouch!
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I tried it with an Adder - no luck. The station was still approx. 0.15 ly away before I almost run out of fuel. So I had to abandon the mission and return to Sol. Yes, the ship integrity was down to 75 % and it cost me a lot of money for accomplishing nothing. Except the fall in reputation when cancelling the mission. Luckily I noticed that the goods were still aboard - now marked as stolen. If I had been scanned and destroyed for this, I would have deinstalled it right away. To quote CR: "That's ." In my own words: it's bad game design. I know about the good old memories that some of you might have. But it doesn't work for me.
Hmm.. Let trying a re contextualise the above into the real world: I hire a courier company to deliver an important consignment for me to the other end of the country and they fail to do so because they didn't have enough petrol to get there. They then run off with all my valuable cargo. I'd call the police. They would be committing a crime. The goods that belong to me are stolen. I've taken a massive financial hit buy trust them with my cargo. I'd want my cargo flagged as stolen, because it is stolen.
The Galaxy is what the Galaxy is. Some places are hard to get to. You can't call bad game design because you were dumb enough to go on a long journey without enough fuel! Take some responsibility for your actions in the game.
With that analogy in mind (good enough for that specific scenario) what you also need to consider is the cost incurred to those accepting a "job" do deliver whatever but not getting paid anywhere near enough to cover that task. That is bad game design. If a job is not going to cover the cost of my fuel and wear and tear then i am never going to do it, just as in the real world running a business to make a loss is a sure fire way to fail.
Well fuel is effectively a free resource once you have a fuel scoop and know how to use it. I'd argue that the responsibility on the haulage company not to accept jobs that don't provide a profit. Not sure about the wear and tear angle and I haven't bothered to maintain this as I've been exploring. There doesn't appear to be much of a downside to flying a battered ship with a messed up paint job.
Did you remove the shield?
Hmmm interesting, I did the trip some time ago and must admit to not noticing any real degradation or wear and tear. I was in a Cobra Mk111 and it took just over 90 minutes, and I was nowhere near out of fuel either. I earned about 40k CR on the mission, repaired the ship and refueled it and still made a bit of a profit if I remember correctly. It does sound like a bit of a bug to me so I am glad you've ticketed it.
It seems supercruise currently produces excessive amounts of wear&tear. In my Cobra, flying just 20,000Ls within a system (distance which are common in places like Achenar) costs me almost 1000cr in w&t alone, yet jumping to another system and flying the nearest station there is 100cr at most.
I've never been there. What kind of star is it you jump into? Is it a hot one that is overloading your system before you get away from it? Logically, I would think there was something up with the star if you were going to put a station over 6000000 ls away (holy hell, I thought 250000ls was bad!). Is there some other "anomaly" in space on the way there that could be causing damage? Everything (supposedly) moves in orbits, so maybe it was nearby when one person went to the station, but in a different position when someone else did? I have seen some systems while exploring that made me scratch my head about the location of some planets.
