As tge name suggests, what? Like I honestly can't think of much more they could do with it besides birds. I mean they could do a flying fox or microbat but while I wouldn't mind one, I'm fine with the bar he have. Maybe a flying Squirrel, sugar glider or colugo, but I not sure how good they are around guests. So anyway, what do you think?
What could go in tge walkthrough exhibit others than birds?
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Sugar Gliders, Flying fox, and Tamarins/Marmosets are the only ones I can think of.
I wish they would make a toggle for the walkthrough part or just make another exhibit without the walkthrough. Keep the size of the exhibit, keep the looped animations, just get rid of the path and we could have so many more options. Small mammals like Pine Martens could fit in it, same with some slightly larger reptiles and amphibians like a couple of small tortoises. Even (and yes I know it’s a bird) Owls could work in a non walkable exhibit because they don’t move much. I saw an owl recently and it flew for 10 minutes from the same point to point over and over again. This could also work for the tamarins since I’ve seen some people say they’re not supposed to be W.E animals. Such a simple fix with so many opportunities if they went this route.
I wish they would make a toggle for the walkthrough part or just make another exhibit without the walkthrough. Keep the size of the exhibit, keep the looped animations, just get rid of the path and we could have so many more options. Small mammals like Pine Martens could fit in it, same with some slightly larger reptiles and amphibians like a couple of small tortoises. Even (and yes I know it’s a bird) Owls could work in a non walkable exhibit because they don’t move much. I saw an owl recently and it flew for 10 minutes from the same point to point over and over again. This could also work for the tamarins since I’ve seen some people say they’re not supposed to be W.E animals. Such a simple fix with so many opportunities if they went this route.
Some animals that are similar to the in-game Walkthrough Exhibit species:
Some animals that are different to the in-game Walkthrough Exhibit species:
- Linnaeus’ Two Toed Sloth
- Rodrigues Flying Fox
- Atlas Moth, Madagascan Moon Moth, Scarlet Mormon Butterfly, Malachite Butterfly, Blue Clipper Butterfly
Some animals that are different to the in-game Walkthrough Exhibit species:
- Orb Web Weaver Spiders (Golden Orb Weaver and Madagascar Orb Weaver)
- Siberian Flying Squirrel
- Sugar Glider
I said that last time this was asked but I upset more than one person
Really small primates could work in the walkthrough exhibit much better than a habitat or even a new non walkthrough exhibit box.
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I think a lot of the opposition from callitrichids in walkthroughs might come from that primate walkthroughs are almost non-existent in North America compared to Europe where they are plentiful. Simply put, these guys are tiny and with the climbing functions and giant food trays it would look absolutely ridiculous in PZ. I think walkthrough is honestly the best case for them, someone had to say it.
If we were to get five callitrichids in a walkthrough like how we got five butterflies my choices would be the following:
If we were to get five callitrichids in a walkthrough like how we got five butterflies my choices would be the following:
- Western Pygmy Marmoset
- Cotton-Top Tamarin
- Golden Lion Tamarin
- White-Tufted Marmoset
- Callimico (Goeldi's Monkey)
You can always just do null path and then remove the doors. I think that was the main reason for them adding null paths.
Nah, the people who are against them in walkthroughs are against it because well... your second sentence just isn't true
We've had 3 tamarin mods and 2 marmoset mods for ages now and they by no means look any different in terms of climbing than any other animal in the game. They're not more buggy, they don't climb weird compared to the other smaller primates such as the lemurs or capuchins; they act exactly the same, they're just smaller. 
I feel like the main reason people use for tamarins and marmosets in walkthroughs is the "they're small so the climbing won't work" but that's never been based on anything and can easily be disproven by just downloading one of the mods.
Honestly, Frontiers approach to walkthrough exhibits seems to be "animals we can't get to work in habitats because of complex ways of moving", which was basically confirmed in their dev journal. So I sincerely hope that's what they're going to keep using them for; because I don't see a reason at all to put small tortoises and all the aforementioned small mammals in a walkthrough when it limits your creativity as much as walkthroughs do.
That said, I mostly want some more bat species such as flying foxes. I think I would have preferred a flying fox over a sloth in the last Tropical Pack even
I still disagree with them as habitat animals tbh because even if they aren't buggy climbing I don't think it would be possible to make the smaller style climbing areas these guys usually have. Having these tiny monkeys climbing around on giant logs and such instead of little branches and twigs isn't really what they are like in zoos. Plus if walkthrough meant we could get more species I'd take it because this is a group where we really should have a good number of species. I wouldn't be upset if we got one as a habitat animal though.Nah, the people who are against them in walkthroughs are against it because well... your second sentence just isn't true
I feel like the main reason people use for tamarins and marmosets in walkthroughs is the "they're small so the climbing won't work" but that's never been based on anything and can easily be disproven by just downloading one of the mods.
Honestly, Frontiers approach to walkthrough exhibits seems to be "animals we can't get to work in habitats because of complex ways of moving", which was basically confirmed in their dev journal. So I sincerely hope that's what they're going to keep using them for; because I don't see a reason at all to put small tortoises and all the aforementioned small mammals in a walkthrough when it limits your creativity as much as walkthroughs do.
That said, I mostly want some more bat species such as flying foxes. I think I would have preferred a flying fox over a sloth in the last Tropical Pack even
But walkthrough exhibits are literally huge compared to what they then get in zoos no? It's perfectly possible to get the climbing to work in a smaller space, plenty of people have done it. On top of that we've got plenty of thin climbable pieces? Like, I feel like you're seeing hurdles that are not there, because all of these things are doable in the game and don't really require you to be a master builder or anything
Yeah the whole thing about getting more species certainly wouldn't be the case for animals like tamarins. I'm assuming you're referring to how it was for butterflies, but making multiple butterfly species is completely different from making multiple tamarin species.
The reason why we've gotten 5 butterflies species and for instance not 5 bats and all sloth species is because 1) you only need to make one butterfly model which you can re-use for each species as wing shapes are defined by alphas and 2) there are loads of easy to use references for butterflies as people preserve and collect butterflies. This means that making multiple butterfly species becomes something similar to making specific variants within the same animal. In the end, there are very very few animals that match the same presets; which is why we didn't get more bats or sloths in the other two packs.
At the end of the day, it's up to you and I surely don't want to argue here because if you prefer it that way than that's your opinion. I just don't think there's a need to force animals in the walkthrough exhibit just for the sake of it; and tamarins fall in that category for me.
I see where you are coming from but even looking at footage from mods I remain unconvinced.But walkthrough exhibits are literally huge compared to what they then get in zoos no? It's perfectly possible to get the climbing to work in a smaller space, plenty of people have done it. On top of that we've got plenty of thin climbable pieces? Like, I feel like you're seeing hurdles that are not there, because all of these things are doable in the game and don't really require you to be a master builder or anything
Yeah the whole thing about getting more species certainly wouldn't be the case for animals like tamarins. I'm assuming you're referring to how it was for butterflies, but making multiple butterfly species is completely different from making multiple tamarin species.
The reason why we've gotten 5 butterflies species and for instance not 5 bats and all sloth species is because 1) you only need to make one butterfly model which you can re-use for each species as wing shapes are defined by alphas and 2) there are loads of easy to use references for butterflies as people preserve and collect butterflies. This means that making multiple butterfly species becomes something similar to making specific variants within the same animal. In the end, there are very very few animals that match the same presets; which is why we didn't get more bats or sloths in the other two packs.
At the end of the day, it's up to you and I surely don't want to argue here because if you prefer it that way than that's your opinion. I just don't think there's a need to force animals in the walkthrough exhibit just for the sake of it; and tamarins fall in that category for me.
It's a fair note about the butterflies being a lot easier to make but I also feel a good reason we only got one bat and one sloth is due to the fact these are species which are commonly kept on their own unlike butterfly houses which always have an array of species. With callitrichids I do see them mixed very often as well as on their own, it might be a bit more work for Frontier but I don't think it is fully outside the realm of possibility.
Also, I think some of the species are just too small to be habitat... (Pygmy marmoset definitely, most tamarins and marmosets too I think) I could only barely see lion tamarins or the callimico as habitat animals. Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just hope we get callitrichids at all!
I know I made a post somewhere else about this question. If we consider that WE will be used for animals that are too big for regular exhibits and cannot work as habitat animals with game mechanics, I suggest the following options:
Modified WE could be used for underwater tunnels with sharks, moray eels etc.
- Slow climbing mammals (Loris, Sloth)
- Gliding animals (Sugar Glider, Flying Squirrel, Colugo)
- Flying mammals (Flying Foxes)
- Flying insects (Dragonflies, Bees <-- too small?)
- Coastal species (Mudskipper, Fiddler Crab, Horseshoe Crab) <-- Based on Burgers' Mangrove
Modified WE could be used for underwater tunnels with sharks, moray eels etc.
I quite often build koala habitats that are the same size as the WE (deliberately measured as such), so it's possible to make tiny climbing areas (I do this because I firmly wish the koala had been a WE animal; it would behave so much more realistically in a WE than it does as a habitat animal).
That said I'm not opposed to the idea of tamarins and marmosets being in the WE, if only because it feels like the only way we'll get more than one species.
I also want a flying Fox and some kind of small bat. I guess gliders are also an option for WE. I'm on the fence about small primates. I think i Will prefer them as habitat animals to have more versatility creating their habitat but i don't think their movements can be replicated accuratly for a habitat species.
I would not want to walk through an exhibit with free flying bees lol
Praise dogs are smaller than marmosets so I'm not understand your argument against the size of them here.
Prairie dogs are about twice as big on average if we are talking more typical marmosets. Pygmies are absolutely tiny (they weigh about 100g) meaning prairie dogs could probably kill them if they sat on them lol.
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