What does the Rank of King and Admiral Mean?

Cosmo

Cosmo
What does it mean for a pilot to attain the rank of Admiral in the Federal Navy or King in the Imperial Navy?

A king is someone who rules a kingdom. What kingdom do pilots rule after earning the rank of king?

An Admiral is someone who commands a group of ships. What Fleet do such pilots command?

Update: where does it say these are honorary ranks? Why can we serve in the Federal and Imperial Navies at the same time?
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
Ranks are basically honorific titles... since Commanders aren't part of the superpower's actual military, it's more a reference of your contribution and value to the superpower than your actual rank. Something something Commanders are basically military subcontractors.

You can think of them like civilian government->military rank equivalents. Gives you an idea of the seniority of a person, but ultimately conferring no actual meaningful rank within that military.
 
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Valorin

Valorin
I also think those titles are a bit confusing and shouldn't resemble actual military ranks or noble titles, to be honest.
 

JohnRoberts

JohnRoberts
If they don't match with your character or role play, but you want a rank locked ship, grind the rank, buy the ship, and then email support and ask them to reset your ranks. That's what I did with the Corvette - it's mine as long as I've got it, but I can't buy another one. Most importantly, no ridiculous Rear Admiral honorific that might lead to John Roberts being mistaken for a stinking Fed.
 

Vasious

Vasious
They are Honourary Ranks

Example

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...Wing-Commander-in-Royal-New-Zealand-Air-Force

Richie McCaw has never served in the RNZAF but has worked with them in Leadership training and support so was awarded the Honourary rank which gives all the courtesy but no command in operations

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_McCaw


Your Cmdr does stuff for the Federal and/or Imperial Navy, and as a reward gets an Honourary Rank, with all the perks such as entrance to the Mess, seats at the table, access to their Naval Vessels (at your cost) and such, but no command or authority on operations
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Means the same thing as the Knighthoods offered by the Queen of England and some of the Doctorates handed out by Universities. It's an acknowledgement of public achievement.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Vasious said:
They are Honourary Ranks

Example

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...Wing-Commander-in-Royal-New-Zealand-Air-Force

Richie McCaw has never served in the RNZAF but has worked with them in Leadership training and support so was awarded the Honourary rank which gives all the courtesy but no command in operations

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_McCaw


Your Cmdr does stuff for the Federal and/or Imperial Navy, and as a reward gets an Honourary Rank, with all the perks such as entrance to the Mess, seats at the table, access to their Naval Vessels (at your cost) and such, but no command or authority on operations
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Or "Colonel" Harland Sanders, who was given the honorific title of "Kentucky Colonel", for his delicious fried chicken, and for creating what would grow into a nation-spanning franchise.
 

Jack Schitt

Jack Schitt
Cosmo said:
What does it mean for a pilot to attain the rank of Admiral in the Federal Navy or King in the Imperial Navy?
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Nothing.

A king is someone who rules a kingdom. What kingdom do pilots rule after earning the rank of king?
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None.

An Admiral is someone who commands a group of ships. What Fleet do such pilots command?
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None.

Update: where does it say these are honorary ranks?
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Update: Nowhere official.

Why can we serve in the Federal and Imperial Navies at the same time?
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Because nothing prevents it.

I hope these answers meet with your approval. Thank you for using the Frontier Forums.
 
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Bob McBobblehead

Bob McBobblehead
The rank of Admiral and King means nothing game wise. There is nothing at all gained by having these titles, there are not ships locked behind those titles or any other game mechanic.
 

Starwolfe

S
Someday in my dreams we will be able to hire NPCs to fly all our garaged ships with us in a massive fleet-wing and wreak havoc.

More likely in my dreams than someday, but we can all dream, right?
 

LaTokk

LaTokk
The ranking system has always struck me as a bit odd. The honorific thing makes a little sense in terms of determining status for mission allocation, but it feels like it should work differently.

Maybe something like an honorific rank system as "mission specialist" which works across Empire, Federation or Alliance effectively being the current ranking system, but then have military ranks for those who actually commit to a side - these would be needed for Empire/Fed/Alliance specific ship unlocks. The highest ranks should not be attainable without that commitment.

At lower ranks you can still switch sides, but doing so at the highest ranks should be treated as treason by the side you abandon.
 

Ceekay

Ceekay
Admiral and King currently have no purpose but FD don't add stuff for no good reason perhaps you need these ranks to be able to form a squadron.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Cosmo said:
]What does the Rank of King and Admiral Mean?
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Currently it only means that you can buy certain ships.

To be honest I do not believe the current military ranking works very well in the Elite setting... and I do not think it ever can.
It simply does not make sense in this Elite universe of highly individual cmdrs doing odd jobs for cash.

I am a highly ranked figure in the Imperial as well as the Federal Navy, but nobody cares and nobody acts like I am.
I still deliver parcels and excrement, or go mining, and I could even go pirating without consequences for my rank.

Perhaps FDev should consider a different system functioning as a barrier for owning certain ships.
I have some ideas about that.
 
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Raino

Raino
When I enter my home station there are always fireworks :cool:

Yep, and the slaves parade

and the princess is greeting from her balcony...





where the heck did i put my glasses again ..:D
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Cosmo said:
What does it mean for a pilot to attain the rank of Admiral in the Federal Navy or King in the Imperial Navy?

A king is someone who rules a kingdom. What kingdom do pilots rule after earning the rank of king?

An Admiral is someone who commands a group of ships. What Fleet do such pilots command?

Update: where does it say these are honorary ranks? Why can we serve in the Federal and Imperial Navies at the same time?
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The vanity, Commander, only the vanity

:)
 

Dagwit

Dagwit
I have two theories about the ranks of King and Admiral:

1. There is something coming in the future that these ranks will unlock;
2. At some point late in the development process they decided that the rank grind was just too much of a grind and simply moved access for some or all of the unlocked items down two ranks, but by that point were unwilling to spend extra time or resources to tidy the system up.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Cosmo said:
Update: where does it say these are honorary ranks? Why can we serve in the Federal and Imperial Navies at the same time?
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The term "Auxiliaries" gets thrown about when referring to how Commanders participate with naval ranks in Elite (e.g the wiki). I'm unsure of the direct reference though. It may be mentioned in mission briefings.

To the best of my knowledge, while ill advised, participation in one auxiliary force does not proscribe participation in group supporting another side. As it is, the Empire and Federation are not necessarily at war (and are, in fact, cooperating in the Pleiades via Aegis at this point), so there's no reason service to both should be mutually exclusive. As it stands, gaining rank for, say, the Federation, can not involve any aggressive acts towards the Empire (or vice versa) if you play your cards right.
 
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