Newcomer / Intro What does the SYS do ?

william1134 · Mar 17, 2015

Hi all,

I have been playing for a few weeks now but I don't fully understand what transfering the pips over to the SYS does.

From what I have read it looks into the heat levels, shield and sensors.

So if I max out the pips, does it give a boost to my default sensor range or speed up the D scanner etc?

Thanks!

Crazy Jedi · Mar 17, 2015

I think the most vital thing it does is speed up your shield recovery

Rutg3rO · Mar 17, 2015

Yes indeed. The sys capacitor fills replenishes your shields and feeds your chaffs, countermeasures etc etc.

krysohmyz · Mar 17, 2015

Crazy Jedi said:
I think the most vital thing it does is speed up your shield recovery

The replenishing shields is secondary. The most important things it does it strengthens the shields (aka more pips you have in SYS the more damage the shields can withstand and the dependance is exponential. Four pips can have life-saving effect. It more than doubles the shields.

Refference graph - courtesy of CMDR heartorhead during the beta testing of the changes:

william1134 · Mar 17, 2015

Oh lovely, so it doesn't do anything with your sensors?

krysohmyz · Mar 17, 2015

william1134 said:
Oh lovely, so it doesn't do anything with your sensors?

No. If you want to have greater range and more precise gimbal/turret targetting, you simply need to buy better sensors.

Crazy Jedi · Mar 17, 2015

krysohmyz said:
The replenishing shields is secondary. The most important things it does it strengthens the shields (aka more pips you have in SYS the more damage the shields can withstand and the dependance is exponential. Four pips can have life-saving effect. It more than doubles the shields.

Refference graph - courtesy of CMDR heartorhead during the beta testing of the changes:

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Aah ok... That explains things nicely. Next time I'm running away from a losing battle I should probably throw all pips at ENG and SYS?

william1134 · Mar 17, 2015

Is there any kind of official documentation on what the SYS does exactly as I don't seem to remember reading about the SYS improving your heat dissipation.

Dommarraa · Mar 17, 2015

Crazy Jedi said:
Aah ok... That explains things nicely. Next time I'm running away from a losing battle I should probably throw all pips at ENG and SYS?

What were you doing with them before, putting the ketlle on ?

Pyrion · Mar 17, 2015

I think this graph is outdated. They changed that curve recently, flattening it.

gary.brain · Mar 17, 2015

see this thread.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=127832&p=1960704&viewfull=1#post1960704

krysohmyz · Mar 17, 2015

Pyrion said:
I think this graph is outdated. They changed that curve recently, flattening it.

Yes, I put it there just to illustrate my point.

It's not THAT different though.

Kancro Vantas · Mar 17, 2015

Just to make things clear, you need to distribute power management at any given moment according to need. SYS is indeed for the shield but if you put it toward weapons it cool them down faster so the heat doesn't go up and you can keep shooting, if well fitted, non-stop lasers.

If you direct it to engines, it charges your capacitator for boost and also regular thrusters gain you more speed.

With that being said, during combat, you MUST be very skilled and change your distribution VERY quickly to the tune of the moment: to weapons while attacking, to shields while receiving, to engines while chasing or running...

Thus, is not uncommon that you switch PIP's several times in a minute, sometimes every 2-3 seconds according to what you are doing. This is vital!

bofhenator · Mar 18, 2015

krysohmyz said:
No. If you want to have greater range and more precise gimbal/turret targetting, you simply need to buy better sensors.

Greater range yes, but once a contact is resolved it has no influence on how weapons track a target.

Dommarraa · Mar 18, 2015

Kancro Vantas said:
Thus, is not uncommon that you switch PIP's several times in a minute, sometimes every 2-3 seconds according to what you are doing. This is vital!

Vital ? PvP or HI Combat Zone you want to be more active on the pips, but the rest of the time it is by no means vital to phaff around with them all the time. I rarely change mine at all once in combat.

Crazy Jedi · Mar 18, 2015

Dommarraa said:
What were you doing with them before, putting the ketlle on ?

Ha ha....its a big kettle with a huge power draw

andyraptor · Mar 18, 2015

bofhenator said:
Greater range yes, but once a contact is resolved it has no influence on how weapons track a target.

Reference for this please - thanks

Sensors work on heat signature - higher rated = more sensitive - gimballed lock to heat signature .... Must be linked ... surely?

Crazy Jedi · Mar 18, 2015

This discussion literally saved my bacon last night.
I got interdicted and attacked by a Cobra. First I pumped all pips across to SYS whilst I shook him off my six, then balanced the pips between my shields and guns to fight the guy off (he ran for it after a bit)

andyraptor · Mar 18, 2015

Crazy Jedi said:
This discussion literally saved my bacon last night.
I got interdicted and attacked by a Cobra. First I pumped all pips across to SYS whilst I shook him off my six, then balanced the pips between my shields and guns to fight the guy off (he ran for it after a bit)

I'm fairly sure pips and use of are covered in the Newbie tutorials ?

CrispyLeper · Mar 18, 2015

Crazy Jedi said:
This discussion literally saved my bacon last night.
I got interdicted and attacked by a Cobra. First I pumped all pips across to SYS whilst I shook him off my six, then balanced the pips between my shields and guns to fight the guy off (he ran for it after a bit)

Great to hear that my friend!
It's amazing how with time and patience a commander (like myself for instance) can just keep tweaking little things to improve time and time again.