What happened to realism?

raeat · Jun 16, 2015

Edited to protect the feelings of the deliberately offended.

Spider95 · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Why can you ram a docking pad and see no damage to you or the dock? Why do we see no costs for the damages we do?
Since when do authorities fine you 10% for your illicit cargo and then not confiscate the illegal goods? Minor cost of doing business?
Why can you fire on a starbase/outpost, even accidentally, and still dock shortly thereafter, with full access to all services?
Why are ships not impounded by allied outposts/systems for unpaid fines?

Where's the realism?

This ain't the REAL world. It's a game.

Realism is a double edged sword.

You want to sit for hours while they load/unload cargo or fuel your ship? Nope, didn't think so

(\(\;;/)/)

Cradle2Grave · Jun 16, 2015

Realism you say?

Andy_Pipkin · Jun 16, 2015

Here is your realism:

http://youtu.be/DUFQRThjrQ4

robberer · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Where's the realism?

In real life.
This is a game.

raeat · Jun 16, 2015

Edited to protect the feelings of the deliberately offended.

Privata · Jun 16, 2015

I do think they made the best space sim , but I agree the small changes like easy docking and raming nerf are a shame. the game need to be unforgiving and cruel

Astronut57 · Jun 16, 2015

Realism? We're flying many times the speed of light and you're asking where's the realism? LOL

Steve50 · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Why can you ram a docking pad and see no damage to you or the dock? Why do we see no costs for the damages we do?
Since when do authorities fine you 10% for your illicit cargo and then not confiscate the illegal goods? Barely noticeable cost of doing business?
Why can you fire on a starbase/outpost, even accidentally, and still dock shortly thereafter, with full access to all services?
Why are ships not impounded by allied outposts/systems for unpaid fines?
Why are criminal records temporary? Why can they be paid off?

Where's the realism?

Lots of modern day gamers cannot accept challenge or losing things, so Frontier kept such things out.

Drelthar · Jun 16, 2015

Privata said:
I do think they made the best space sim , but I agree the small changes like easy docking and raming nerf are a shame. the game need to be unforgiving and cruel

That's a little bit sadist of you really. In the age of arcade games where lives cost money, they were set up to be crazy hard, I am pretty glad we have moved past that in terms of modern game design.

Suul Vellumcore · Jun 16, 2015

Realism went out the door at the very begining with 1000c speeds and Internet MMO forced acceleration/speed limits. Most all of us have come to accept these things for the sake of gameplay. I wouldn't worry about realism so much at this point.

robberer · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
"It's a game" doesn't cover it here, especially in a game that goes to such lengths to give us realism in motion and flight.

Yeah, this what a flight simulation is for. In case of ED, some kind of space flight simulation.

*You could try to ask some guys on the MSFS or X-Plane forum where the terrorists settings are because they would give the game some small kind of realism.

*joking

bossbrigand · Jun 16, 2015

Spider95 said:
This ain't the REAL world. It's a game.

Realism is a double edged sword.

You want to sit for hours while they load/unload cargo or fuel your ship? Nope, didn't think so

(\(\;;/)/)

I wouldn't mind a delay for cargo/fuel if it came with something to do in the meantime other than read the news.

PhazonAran · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
"It's a game" doesn't cover it here, especially in a game that goes to such lengths to give us realism in motion and flight.

The flight model is certainly not realist. Speed limit in space ? Speed bleeding ? Ultra low velocity ?

salad · Jun 16, 2015

Andy_Pipkin said:
Here is your realism:

http://youtu.be/DUFQRThjrQ4

This looks fun, but I bet we would have way less players if ED was like that.

jmg · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Why can you ram a docking pad and see no damage to you or the dock? Why do we see no costs for the damages we do?
Since when do authorities fine you 10% for your illicit cargo and then not confiscate the illegal goods? Barely noticeable cost of doing business?
Why can you fire on a starbase/outpost, even accidentally, and still dock shortly thereafter, with full access to all services?
Why are ships not impounded by allied outposts/systems for unpaid fines?
Why are criminal records temporary? Why can they be paid off?

Where's the realism?

it went out the door with PP.

jmg · Jun 16, 2015

salad said:
This looks fun, but I bet we would have way less players if ED was like that.

rogue looks like it was tailor made for a sim pit

Colonel North · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Why can you ram a docking pad and see no damage to you or the dock? Why do we see no costs for the damages we do?
Since when do authorities fine you 10% for your illicit cargo and then not confiscate the illegal goods? Barely noticeable cost of doing business?
Why can you fire on a starbase/outpost, even accidentally, and still dock shortly thereafter, with full access to all services?
Why are ships not impounded by allied outposts/systems for unpaid fines?
Why are criminal records temporary? Why can they be paid off?

Where's the realism?

Since playing ED I've decided I want, I need, to be an astronaut. The wife thinks aged 42 it's a bit late for this kind of career change, but what would she know, she's a girl. So I've sent my cv off to NASA and expect I'll get invited to interview very soon. After that its a done deal.

Anyway, back on topic. As far as I know ED is totally realistic and I'll be very disappointed (with potential legal ramifications for FD) if it turns out being a 'real' astronaut is in any way different to how FD have led me to believe.

CipherZR032 · Jun 16, 2015

salad said:
Andy_Pipkin said:

Here is your realism:

http://youtu.be/DUFQRThjrQ4

Click to expand...

This looks fun, but I bet we would have way less players if ED was like that.

I wouldn't mind a slightly less complicated optional version of that if FD ever got some spare time to add it in, without taking away staff from more important parts of the game that is. Something like a setting in the options that was Classic or Advanced Cockpit, which defaulted to classic - how it is now.

Krait_79 · Jun 16, 2015

raeat said:
Why can you ram a docking pad and see no damage to you or the dock? Why do we see no costs for the damages we do?
Since when do authorities fine you 10% for your illicit cargo and then not confiscate the illegal goods? Barely noticeable cost of doing business?
Why can you fire on a starbase/outpost, even accidentally, and still dock shortly thereafter, with full access to all services?
Why are ships not impounded by allied outposts/systems for unpaid fines?
Why are criminal records temporary? Why can they be paid off?

Where's the realism?

Why can you come back to life and carry on playing after you die? Why don't you get arrested for crimes and have to spend 40 years in real time in some prison station! Damn this lack of realism!