What happened to the "Buy Exploration Data" button?

AluminumAlloy · Jun 16, 2016

A quick question here, it seems that the button is no longer available when you hover your mouse over to a system anymore due to a recent game update. Despite the fact that the systems are extremely close to stations, their exploration data can't be purchased.

I'm not sure if this was a feature that was removed and I didn't take the time to read up on a patch's list of changes, but if anyone knows how I can get it please tell me. Thanks.

-Aluminum

willowfan · Jun 16, 2016

It was there last night when I bought some system information...

cmdr_Havalok · Jun 16, 2016

Its still there. It never been available on all systems. Just some.

willowfan · Jun 16, 2016

Sometimes it is there but red, meaning no information is available to purchase. So the only optionis to go there and either scan the navbeacon if present or honk the system.

Kzak · Jun 16, 2016

AluminumAlloy said:
A quick question here, it seems that the button is no longer available when you hover your mouse over to a system anymore due to a recent game update. Despite the fact that the systems are extremely close to stations, their exploration data can't be purchased.

I'm not sure if this was a feature that was removed and I didn't take the time to read up on a patch's list of changes, but if anyone knows how I can get it please tell me. Thanks.

-Aluminum

If nobody ever scanned that system and sold the data, then the data isn't available for purchase. Admittedly, this is a little unlikely if the system is near another system with a station in it.

AluminumAlloy · Jun 16, 2016

willowfan said:
Sometimes it is there but red, meaning no information is available to purchase. So the only optionis to go there and either scan the navbeacon if present or honk the system.

There's no red-coloured button there at all. Just a red system view map button, a bookmark button, a plot route button and a select button. nothing else

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Kzak said:
If nobody ever scanned that system and sold the data, then the data isn't available for purchase. Admittedly, this is a little unlikely if the system is near another system with a station in it.

Although the star has a "fist discovered by" text when I hover my mouse over to it

Alex Brentnall · Jun 16, 2016

Are you docked at a station that has Universal Cartographics? <- Stupid question, has to be asked

shadragon · Jun 16, 2016

willowfan said:
Sometimes it is there but red, meaning no information is available to purchase. So the only optionis to go there and either scan the navbeacon if present or honk the system.

There are key systems where you can jump in and see everything regardless. The "buy" button is red probably because you don't need to buy anything.

AluminumAlloy · Jun 16, 2016

Alex Brentnall said:
Are you docked at a station that has Universal Cartographics?

There are no stations within the system, but in previous versions of the game (before Horizons, I think) I was capable of purchasing data of systems that didn't have any stations, though.

Alex Brentnall · Jun 16, 2016

No you misunderstand me.

To buy data from other systems you need to be docked at a station with UC (doesn't have to be in the system you wish to buy, just near it) If you are randomly in supercruise or flight somewhere you can't buy any data iirc.

Archvillain · Jun 16, 2016

Alex Brentnall said:
No you misunderstand me.

To buy data from other systems you need to be docked at a station with UC (doesn't have to be in the system you wish to buy, just near it) If you are randomly in supercruise or flight somewhere you can't buy any data iirc.

Yeah, it took me ages to figure that one out. It's a real benefit of being at a station with a UC and yet I've never seen anything in the game even hint that being at UC adds functionality to my galaxy map. It's a nice feature that is turned into a bug by there not being any in-game info (at least none that I've seen).

I think the buy-info button should be there always, but red, and bring up a message "must be at a Universal Cartographics to buy system data" if you click. (When you are at a UC, systems with no data can bring up a different message). This would teach us both that the function exists and how to use it.

AluminumAlloy · Jun 16, 2016

Alex Brentnall said:
No you misunderstand me.

To buy data from other systems you need to be docked at a station with UC (doesn't have to be in the system you wish to buy, just near it) If you are randomly in supercruise or flight somewhere you can't buy any data iirc.

Ok, just visited 4 systems with stations close to the system as much as possible. Went all through the list of systems on the UC. I'm trying to get info on ICZ ZF-O B6-4, the alleged place of a lot of shipwrecks and mysteries behind them.

Still no data.

Either a bug for me, or something else about "them"

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Paineframe · Jun 16, 2016

AluminumAlloy said:
Ok, just visited 4 systems with stations close to the system as much as possible. Went all through the list of systems on the UC. I'm trying to get info on ICZ ZF-O B6-4, the alleged place of a lot of shipwrecks and mysteries behind them.

Still no data.

Either a bug for me, or something else about "them" .

Your ship has to be CURRENTLY DOCKED at a station, and that station has to have the "Universal Cartographics" button available in its menu, for you to be able to buy ANY exploration data. Once you are docked at a station that has a UC, that option will appear on the galactic map. Even though the option is on the galactic map, you're actually buying the data from the station that you're currently docked at. It's just bad UI.

cmdr_Havalok · Jun 16, 2016

Paineframe said:
Your ship has to be CURRENTLY DOCKED at a station, and that station has to have the "Universal Cartographics" button available in its menu, for you to be able to buy ANY exploration data. Once you are docked at a station that has a UC, that option will appear on the galactic map. Even though the option is on the galactic map, you're actually buying the data from the station that you're currently docked at. It's just bad UI.

Well dip me in buttermilk. Never realized all that but it does make perfect sense.

Alex Brentnall · Jun 16, 2016

I feel like I explained things terribly. Hopefully what Paineframe said makes sense because that's what I was trying to say

AluminumAlloy · Jun 16, 2016

Paineframe said:
Your ship has to be CURRENTLY DOCKED at a station, and that station has to have the "Universal Cartographics" button available in its menu, for you to be able to buy ANY exploration data. Once you are docked at a station that has a UC, that option will appear on the galactic map. Even though the option is on the galactic map, you're actually buying the data from the station that you're currently docked at. It's just bad UI.

Yes, I did all that. I'm telling you, I found systems except for ICZ ZF-O B6-4. Think it's a bug for just me.

Alex Brentnall · Jun 16, 2016

Ahh, maybe it is unmapped then...
Does it have a nav beacon to get the data from?

If not you'll need a Disco scanner, universal cartographics is not universal

Jukelo · Jun 16, 2016

Also, you can only buy data from systems within a 20ly radius from the station you're docked at.