Engineers What have you done to the flight and damage model, Frontier? (R.I.P. Vulture)

[R3VANCHIST]

Today is the first time I tried 2.1.
I have the base game.
I got near-A (for energy consumption reasons) fitted Vulture.
I use mouse and keyboard with FA enabled (I maneuver using keyboard, tweak my aim with mouse).
Today I as usually gone to Extraction Site HAZ and tried to do usual bounty hunting stuff.
Got outturned by Fed dropship.Ok.Maybe lost some skill.
Rechecked that I'm doing the same stuff as before.
Got into virage with Anaconda.It stalled me in a spin.We were just spinning around each other like merry-go-round for two minutes.I couldnt believe my eyes.
The only option to outturn Anaconda in a Vulture (SIC!!!!!!!!!) now is FA off, turn, accelerate.OK lol.This should NOT be like this.DEFINITELY.

The second question - dear devs.WHY THE DAMAGE IS SO LOW? THREE MONTHS AGO I COULD ANNIHILATE A SIDEWINDER IN TWO BURSTS FROM 3E LASERS.
Now they can't damage sh*t.No anaconda hunting, forget about it, GO TURN AND SPIN WITH RIDICULOUS AI ASPS FOR HOURS.

This is just so ridiculous I can't even express how I'm angry with your idiotic update.
Is this gonna get fixed or I can say F this game and forget I paid for it large amount of money?

To all "get some skill or fly joy" guys - go to hell, I was flying with comfort before and was completely satisfied, now for me this game is UNPLAYABLE.
I'm waiting.

 

[Iskariot]

Today is the first time I tried 2.1.
I have the base game.
I got near-A (for energy consumption reasons) fitted Vulture.
I use mouse and keyboard with FA enabled (I maneuver using keyboard, tweak my aim with mouse).
Today I as usually gone to Extraction Site HAZ and tried to do usual bounty hunting stuff.
Got outturned by Fed dropship.Ok.Maybe lost some skill.
Rechecked that I'm doing the same stuff as before.
Got into virage with Anaconda.It stalled me in a spin.We were just spinning around each other like merry-go-round for two minutes.I couldnt believe my eyes.
The only option to outturn Anaconda in a Vulture (SIC!!!!!!!!!) now is FA off, turn, accelerate.OK lol.This should NOT be like this.DEFINITELY.

The second question - dear devs.WHY THE DAMAGE IS SO LOW? THREE MONTHS AGO I COULD ANNIHILATE A SIDEWINDER IN TWO BURSTS FROM 3E LASERS.
Now they can't damage sh*t.No anaconda hunting, forget about it, GO TURN AND SPIN WITH RIDICULOUS AI ASPS FOR HOURS.

This is just so ridiculous I can't even express how I'm angry with your idiotic update.
Is this gonna get fixed or I can say F this game and forget I paid for it large amount of money?

To all "get some skill or fly joy" guys - go to hell, I was flying with comfort before and was completely satisfied, now for me this game is UNPLAYABLE.
I'm waiting.

It is not unplayable. You just need to adapt.
The combat just got more interesting and the unfair human advantage has become smaller. This is a good thing.
I lost 2 FDL the first day myself.
That was a wake up call and I changed my habits.

Do you use thrusters?
Just asking, because if you are not able to out turn an Anaconda in a Vulture... that is weird, but... Anacondas use FA off too and the higher ranks just got better at it..
Use thrusters, FA off, boost turns.
Saying that you should not need to use FA-off is weird. Why not? If a good Anaconda NPC uses FA off and lateral thrusters then using FA off yourself might simply be necessary.

 

[Dread Lord]

Today is the first time I tried 2.1.
I have the base game.
I got near-A (for energy consumption reasons) fitted Vulture.
I use mouse and keyboard with FA enabled (I maneuver using keyboard, tweak my aim with mouse).
Today I as usually gone to Extraction Site HAZ and tried to do usual bounty hunting stuff.
Got outturned by Fed dropship.Ok.Maybe lost some skill.
Rechecked that I'm doing the same stuff as before.
Got into virage with Anaconda.It stalled me in a spin.We were just spinning around each other like merry-go-round for two minutes.I couldnt believe my eyes.
The only option to outturn Anaconda in a Vulture (SIC!!!!!!!!!) now is FA off, turn, accelerate.OK lol.This should NOT be like this.DEFINITELY.

The second question - dear devs.WHY THE DAMAGE IS SO LOW? THREE MONTHS AGO I COULD ANNIHILATE A SIDEWINDER IN TWO BURSTS FROM 3E LASERS.
Now they can't damage sh*t.No anaconda hunting, forget about it, GO TURN AND SPIN WITH RIDICULOUS AI ASPS FOR HOURS.

This is just so ridiculous I can't even express how I'm angry with your idiotic update.
Is this gonna get fixed or I can say F this game and forget I paid for it large amount of money?

To all "get some skill or fly joy" guys - go to hell, I was flying with comfort before and was completely satisfied, now for me this game is UNPLAYABLE.
I'm waiting.

You are a bad Pilot if your Statements are true! In a vulture it is very easy to stay a t an Anacondas Six or almost every ships six! But seriouls do you even turn in the blue range with 4 pips to Systems and do you knwo about reverse turns etc.... cause Vulture is a GOD in combat vs NPCs... I have ZERO Problems... you are just used to the braindead AI we had before 2.1 which was broken...

 

[Willa Allason]

I took a Vulture bounty hunting and took out Dangerous to Elite Condas with little trouble. Use large multis, they are amazing. Target Powerplant, avoid fighting wings, and know when to run away. Vulture is one of the best ships due to being the smallest ship that can run large multis.

Did I mention large multis?