What is classed as optimised ?

You can see progress to console release when they say 'we are now working on the console release'. Which they have said multiple times they are keen to do.

If you do see anywhere some commonly agreed metric of how well the game is running do feel free to share with us PC players, as I haven't seen any two people agree yet ... so difficult for fdev to share such a metric with others ...
 
When it can get 30 fps steadily without tripping over it's own shoelaces on hardware comparable to a 13 yr old console. So yeah... we're a bit of a way off. Don't expect to see it anywhere near console till PC people stop complaining about stuttering.
 
I can relate to the FPS and no stuttering which at least would give me an interest on the updates .
But we aren't even sure of what build the optimisation or what it entails ?
I mean DB said it ran ok on his old PC ?
So is that it optimised ?
We don't know and I'm hoping Fdev at least have an idea and would share it .
Even if it's phase one 30fps no stuttering on a iPhone 10 or even we have to add all this stuff on PC ( ship interiors, better exploration , power play) and then we can check out the Fps etc before we look at consoles ?
As it stands PC optimisation is a non answer in my opinion of course
 
They don't have the answer that's why we can't get the answer. David thought it was working on his old PC. They got totally blindsided by the sheer mess of it when released into the wild because they didn't or couldn't stress test it properly or have bad or insufficient QA structures in place.

Also Elite is a massively complex beast and will play ok in 90% of scenarios and then drop huge clangers in the other 10% which can remain hidden until someone performs that specific action.
I have some sympathy for them in that regard but to be honest, not a lot because some of the simple things they have missed could be seen by a blind man. It clearly showed and recent events still showed that they are out of touch with their own game and do not play it to the extent of the average Elite player. Even being surprised by things that everyone else knows.

Incompetence comes to mind, but let's chalk it down to ignorance as if I was running a company like that I CERTAINLY wouldn't have time to play the game like I do but I sure would want to either pay someone to do that for me to give excellent feedback or listen intently to the players that do and give that feedback for free!!! I mean COME ON, your players are literally doing your job for you and your screwing them over in return and asking for more patience!
 
I understand that EDO is broke and that you aren't doing anything for console so you can work on getting PC optimised.
What are you looking for so that PC is "optimised" ?
Nice and simple
Just so that I can see the progression towards console release .

Me? I'm not doing anything for console. I'm not working on getting the PC optimized.

Why are you asking me these questions!!!???
 
You can see progress to console release when they say 'we are now working on the console release'. Which they have said multiple times they are keen to do.

If you do see anywhere some commonly agreed metric of how well the game is running do feel free to share with us PC players, as I haven't seen any two people agree yet ... so difficult for fdev to share such a metric with others ...
you guys never agree anyway accept to attack console players
 
They don't have the answer that's why we can't get the answer. David thought it was working on his old PC. They got totally blindsided by the sheer mess of it when released into the wild because they didn't or couldn't stress test it properly or have bad or insufficient QA structures in place.

Also Elite is a massively complex beast and will play ok in 90% of scenarios and then drop huge clangers in the other 10% which can remain hidden until someone performs that specific action.
I have some sympathy for them in that regard but to be honest, not a lot because some of the simple things they have missed could be seen by a blind man. It clearly showed and recent events still showed that they are out of touch with their own game and do not play it to the extent of the average Elite player. Even being surprised by things that everyone else knows.

Incompetence comes to mind, but let's chalk it down to ignorance as if I was running a company like that I CERTAINLY wouldn't have time to play the game like I do but I sure would want to either pay someone to do that for me to give excellent feedback or listen intently to the players that do and give that feedback for free!!! I mean COME ON, your players are literally doing your job for you and your screwing them over in return and asking for more patience!
agree
 
So we can discuss it all day long.

but indeed, there’s a lot of confusion, when they said to communicate open and share their plans, so where is the open communication to consoles ?

and I mean in generally way, not only the much discussed when EDO hit on consoles or what are the progress of it?

i mean the generally ways, what will happens with constant issues ? Like stuttering or constant crashes ? What are the plans to make HRZN in the meantime playful? Without getting the strong feeling missing anything (looking at new SRV)

the most feared way is indeed happening right now for consoles/HRZN/VR players.

so as it happens in the past, everyone was shouting at them over the FSD issue some was more rude, then the console players asking frequently what is with us?

Or

the great breakthrough, after the complete community was upset with their way of communication. And don’t get this as passive aggressive or harassment or anything else, but for us on the consoles it’s change in the same way, then after the split up of the community, we are traveled back in time. Sure we getting our acknowledgement that they listen and hear us, but this is not the same open communication for us.

and yes they wouldn’t put money and efforts to bring HRZN into a native version for the next gen consoles and anything else, we know it, wouldn’t make sense to spend time to keep a older version of the game up to date. But this was the way they are chosen and to simply didn’t get lost the interest for their Product, there must be something’s which can hold back the anger or dissapointmend. Correct me if I’m wrong but the new SRV as an example ? Is it EDO exclusive or not ? So when it is exclusive, console/HRZN players shouldn’t not to be in anger ? That’s are things which going at the moment horrible wrong then.

to tell a complete community (consoles)

,,hey bear with us, we hearing you but we have no information?“ But hey for EDO the plans are clear communicated, features that are currently in a early phase would be communicated (fleet carrier) and there is still nothing to bring on table for consoles ?

and before it’s come to this argument : ,,hey they didn’t must give you anything !“ premeditated reply here: yes indeed, but this was the case forever, till the moment as the whole community (includes pc) complete atomised the silence and mysterious communication from Fdev. So you get your timelines, new content etc. But what is with the other half of the community? When I talk about the other half part of the community I didn’t mean the measured playercounts on each plattforms. For me as it’s stands as an third party game, you have the consoles and the pc.

i hope really that they would do something, when I get sally right in the last stream, she confirmed and used this word confirming, that the consoles are still planned. As I said this before, this little statement, bring a little bit of hopes back.

oh and about the whole discussion about old consoles can’t running EDO, some funny side note, red dead redemption 2 and EDO shares almost the same hardware specs, correct me if I’m wrong.

but RDR 2 running good and well on the old consoles why so many think then EDO wouldn’t not make a good figure on them?

would be lovely to see, some good open communication to us, not only in relation to the release of EDO, but perhaps with something what would help to stay.
 
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what Fdev mean by optimising is, when PC players stop crying "give me more or ill go to star citizen" that the truth.

I had to change my i7-9750h / gtx 1660ti/6gb, 16gb ram laptop (1200€ 2 years ago) for a Ryzen 9 5900hx, rtx 3080/16gb, 32gb ram laptop (2300€) to be able to enjoy 30+ FPS on ultra at 1080p

Now you tell me if that feel "optimized" when the recommended requirements were about the same (or lower) than the laptop i sold 2 month ago.
Then give it an extra thought and think how EDO would currently run on a XB1 or PS4

At the same time, my 250€ XB1s runs Horizons pretty much fine and i'm happy with it everytime i fire it up
I dont look to have a messy EDO on XB, i'm willing to wait as long as it's necessary. Simply because on XB i cannot lower resolution, i cannot lower settings... it has to work as they release it. SImply as that.
 
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I had to change my i7-9750h / gtx 1660ti/6gb, 16gb ram laptop (1200€ 2 years ago) for a Ryzen 9 5900hx, rtx 3080/16gb, 32gb ram laptop (2300€) to be able to enjoy 30+ FPS on ultra at 1080p

Now you tell me if that feel "optimized" when the recommended requirements were about the same (or lower) than the laptop i sold 2 month ago.
Then give it an extra thought and think how EDO would currently run on a XB1 or PS4

At the same time, my 250€ XB1s runs Horizons pretty much fine and i'm happy with it everytime i fire it up
I dont look to have a messy EDO on XB, i'm willing to wait as long as it's necessary. Simply because on XB i cannot lower resolution, i cannot lower settings... it has to work as they release it. SImply as that.
Simply as that is to get it properly fixed, this didn’t mean half year of slow down updates which makes little different according to some pc cmdrs?
 
Yes but 'run' was defined by the vendor. So they put 25fps on 1080p in lowest settings... (or something similar)
So the Specs on steam are shouldn’t be the specs from the dev aren’t they? And on the lowest specs RDR 2 looks very good with a smooth performance. In my opinion the key is optimaziation for consoles, and this shouldn’t be handlet out with downgrade for pc.

Elite as it stands now, looks good on consoles but for sure the pc version is oversells it no doubt. But this is with all games which are released on all plattform, pc do get always the best performance in exchange of that fact that sometimes some drivers or some other variables could interference it.
 
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Simply as that is to get it properly fixed, this didn’t mean half year of slow down updates which makes little different according to some pc cmdrs?

Yea, they're getting there. Albeit rather slowly.
Basically the U8 was the first to show a decent performance increase.

If the U9 keeps the momentum, i'd guess they'll start working on Consoles version - but keep in mind that whatever optimizations they've done till now will also count on Consoles. So it's not like they wasted time.
The nastier part, as been pointed out also by other cmdrs, is post U8 it seems that EDO is being heavily CPU limited. And we do know how weak the XB1/PS4 cpu's are.

I really hope they manage to pull it off before the end of FY2022 - that is no later than May 2022
 
Yea, they're getting there. Albeit rather slowly.
Basically the U8 was the first to show a decent performance increase.

If the U9 keeps the momentum, i'd guess they'll start working on Consoles version - but keep in mind that whatever optimizations they've done till now will also count on Consoles. So it's not like they wasted time.
The nastier part, as been pointed out also by other cmdrs, is post U8 it seems that EDO is being heavily CPU limited. And we do know how weak the XB1/PS4 cpu's are.

I really hope they manage to pull it off before the end of FY2022 - that is no later than May 2022
This is a good point and understandable, love these normal conservation without harassment or anything else.

agreed with you.
 
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