What is the point of the KWS?

Brownshortz · Jan 4, 2015

As the thread name says. I can't work out what their usage is. I've killed dozens of wanted NPC's and get the same amount as if I hadn't scanned them with the KWS. Also what do the higher grade ones do better...is it just the range?

Dabba · Jan 4, 2015

Just the range yes. Pirates and other wanted individuals will often show up as clean in anarchy systems. Scanning them with the KWS will show you all outstanding warrants they have in all systems.

Geers · Jan 4, 2015

If the people you scanned had bounties with other factions in other systems you'll be able to collect that too.

Brownshortz · Jan 4, 2015

Great...thanks. So if I scan a clean individual does he then turn wanted? And will the cops in that system come after me for killing him?

Dabba · Jan 4, 2015

If he is not wanted by the authority in the system you are in then yes attacking him is going to get you in trouble.

simon terlecki · Jan 4, 2015

Brownshortz said:
Great...thanks. So if I scan a clean individual does he then turn wanted? And will the cops in that system come after me for killing him?

if he's clean in the system you are in, and there is a police force in this system, he's probably not worth it unless you don't mind getting a bounty. but in an anarchy system, it's the only way to get a paycheck from bounty hunting.

Brownshortz · Jan 4, 2015

simon terlecki said:
if he's clean in the system you are in, and there is a police force in this system, he's probably not worth it unless you don't mind getting a bounty. but in an anarchy system, it's the only way to get a paycheck from bounty hunting.

Ok, thanks....that's useful info.

Astral Ghoul · Jan 4, 2015

Brownshortz said:
As the thread name says. I can't work out what their usage is. I've killed dozens of wanted NPC's and get the same amount as if I hadn't scanned them with the KWS. Also what do the higher grade ones do better...is it just the range?

If your bounty is wanted both in the System you're in and in another System with different faction, you'll be able to redeem a higher reward - you must redeem the other Faction bounty voucher in an outpost of that specific Faction and not in any outpost !

kamenjar · Jan 4, 2015

If you combined KWS with cargo scanner, you did not get any KWS bounties. It's a bug, so don't use a cargo scanner with KWS.
KWS should give you 10-30% more bounty income, so use it.

maxcorwyn · Jan 4, 2015

I think KWS need some rework.

1. They take too long to scan.
2. Their range is too short.
3. Uses one hardpoint slot, of which we have always too few, anyway.

What do you think?

cavan · Jan 4, 2015

Additional Question in case anyone knows

Astral Ghoul said:
If your bounty is wanted both in the System you're in and in another System with different faction, you'll be able to redeem a higher reward - you must redeem the other Faction bounty voucher in an outpost of that specific Faction and not in any outpost !

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to find the systems where those factions are located? I mean finding an Empire, or Alliance Station is easy. I have no idea how to collect my bounty from "Blueball Industry" or the like.

Remiel · Jan 4, 2015

maxcorwyn said:
I think KWS need some rework.

1. They take too long to scan.
2. Their range is too short.
3. Uses one hardpoint slot, of which we have always too few, anyway.

What do you think?

It doesn't use a hardpoint slot, it uses a utility one.

BrewerGeorge · Jan 4, 2015

Do these things require a manual scan action? I notice you can bind them to triggers, but I saw NPCs show up as wanted without doing anything.

maxcorwyn · Jan 4, 2015

Remiel said:
It doesn't use a hardpoint slot, it uses a utility one.

Ah thank you.
Still, utility slots are scarce as well.

Macgyver · Jan 4, 2015

maxcorwyn said:
I think KWS need some rework.

1. They take too long to scan.
2. Their range is too short.
3. Uses one hardpoint slot, of which we have always too few, anyway.

What do you think?

i think they work well.
You just need to learn how to use it correctly.
The more expensive versions have longer ranges and scan faster.

Just check transactions, you will see the money pooling up.
I always hunt with Fed and Empire close together for collection purposes.

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cavan said:
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to find the systems where those factions are located? I mean finding an Empire, or Alliance Station is easy. I have no idea how to collect my bounty from "Blueball Industry" or the like.

The strange factions are normally the local faction of that system.
go to nav map, click system, mouse over the stations, look for alliance, this is who sits at the bounty office at that station.

Blueball Industries? Lol, is it full of ex wives?

maxcorwyn · Jan 4, 2015

But there are so many fancy modules and so few slots...

ECM
Chaff
Point Defense
Heatsinks
KWS
etc..

Jexter · Jan 4, 2015

Last time I used one was during gamma, but the thing I noticed then was that firing on wanted ships often resulted in getting a bounty on me. But if I scanned them first that didn't happen. Don't know if that was a bug or working as intended but it sure put me off bounty hunting since.

cavan · Jan 4, 2015

Macgyver said:
The strange factions are normally the local faction of that system.
go to nav map, click system, mouse over the stations, look for alliance, this is who sits at the bounty office at that station.

Blueball Industries? Lol, is it full of ex wives?

Yeah, my problem is that in my ASP I submit to every interdiction along my trade route but then never stop in the local system to collect.

Now, I'm not saying that BlueBall Industries exists or anything, but I'm not say'n it doesn't. Those prison colonies punish somehow.....

Astral Ghoul · Jan 4, 2015

cavan said:
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to find the systems where those factions are located? I mean finding an Empire, or Alliance Station is easy. I have no idea how to collect my bounty from "Blueball Industry" or the like.

I dont't know how to find sub factions in the Galaxy Map, I never tried to do this: When I have to take a voucher from a minor faction, I try not to leave from the System before redeem. I check in the System Map all the outposts around: in the details of the outposts you'll find the Faction or sub faction that outpost is into !

Bourrinopathe · Jan 4, 2015

maxcorwyn said:
I think KWS need some rework.

1. They take too long to scan.
2. Their range is too short.
3. Uses one hardpoint slot, of which we have always too few, anyway.

What do you think?

10 seconds is a considerable duration when you're in an hostile environment, eager to fight. I finally got rid of my KWS. I would have kept it if there were 5s scan modules.
And it takes a significant time to recover the purchase price. At least with an Eagle or a Viper.

So for now I hunt without any KWS and it's great fun. I'm way more comfortable with the 5s initial scan alone. Scan, wanted confirmed, go. I may earn less credits but it's worth it.
I'm satisfied with the range though.

It does not feel clunky but I just don't like it the way I play.