What makes some landable and others not?

Basically that. Why can you land on some moons/planets and not others? I get the ELW/atmo worlds thing but in this example there is one moon you can land on yet not the other.

I suppose in this instance the ELW might be an influence but there are plenty of other situations where it is the same.

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They also have to be dry. Airless lava worlds, water worlds and ammonia worlds are also off limits. And The Moon, of course. :D
 
They also have to be dry. Airless lava worlds, water worlds and ammonia worlds are also off limits. And The Moon, of course. :D

lol Sol is my home base. Ive wanted to land on the moon since before we could even land. I bet the day we can finally land on the moon, the servers will crash from all the pilots trying to do the same thing. :)
 
So those moons with 0.1 G have atmospheres?

Yes. We only have to look at our own solar system for a precedent: Titan, largest moon of Saturn. Surface gravity 0.14 g (that's lower than Earth's moon), yet it has an atmosphere thicker than Earth's (1.45 atmospheres). Titan proves that you don't need to be a big, heavy planet to have a thick atmosphere. The fact that Titan is just about the only moon in the entire Solar system to have an atmosphere worthy of mentioning means that atmospheres on small moons aren't common. And they aren't common in the ED stellar forge.

If you don't believe us, just scan a few of them. All the landable ones will be "no atmosphere". The vast majority of the non-landable ones will have atmospheres. A few no-atmosphere planets are still off-limits to landers because their planet class is different with surface features that haven't been designed yet (volcanic, ammonia world, water world).

The atmosphere might be barely there (eg. 0.01 atmospheres), but in ED, "Atmosphere?" is a question that has a yes/no answer; a "barely there" atmosphere is still there and will still prevent you from currently landing on it.
 
All the landable ones will be "no atmosphere". The vast majority of the non-landable ones will have atmospheres. A few no-atmosphere planets are still off-limits to landers because their planet class is different with surface features that haven't been designed yet (volcanic, ammonia world, water world).

The atmosphere might be barely there (eg. 0.01 atmospheres), but in ED, "Atmosphere?" is a question that has a yes/no answer; a "barely there" atmosphere is still there and will still prevent you from currently landing on it.

Hi Sapyx, your post reminded me of a question that crossed my mind a while back and this thread is as good a place as any to ask without starting a new one........

If landables have no atmosphere, how come I experience turbulence when I am landing? In addition, there have been several posts with photo's showing fog on a landable worlds.
With the Dev's being very thorough, there must be an explanation.
 
I can only assume those two effects you have observed, to be from the other definition of "atmosphere": something that makes the gameplay "feel more real", even if it technically isn't realistic.

Turbulence: one could, theoretically, argue that the turbulence is coming from your ship's thrusters firing. Which is fine, except you still get the turbulence happening when you're travelling at constant speed, or drifting with FA Off under gravity alone.

Haze and fog: yes, logically, there shouldn't be any. If an 0.01-atmospheres planet has air that's too thick to land on, then a planet with "air" that's thick enough to cause haze really shouldn't be landable either. Look at the Apollo pics; there's no haze on the Moon. Though I suppose if you want a scientific explanation, I recall reading an old (pre-Apollo) sci-fi story about astronauts encountering "haze" on the Moon; turns out it was ultra-fine dust, kept aloft by the low gravity and static electricity.

I would also question whether or not a planet with active "fumaroles" and "geysers" on it ought to be be classed as "no atmosphere". All those fumaroles and geysers are venting something out into the vacuum; presumably some of it is gas (or turns into gas at the surface) and that gas at least should be hanging around, which should theoretically create an atmosphere thick enough to disqualify a landing. Enceladus (another moon of Saturn, on which these airless-moons-with-geysers is presumably based) does have a thin atmosphere, though ED classes it as a "no atmosphere" moon in the ED universe. It is actually rather difficult to get absolutely no atmosphere; zero is a mathematical abstract concept that is a difficult thing to achieve in the real world.
 
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I came across a Landable (no atmosphere), Terraformable planet today.

Now I have probably come across them before and not really noticed [noob] ... but others have come across them haven't they?

Or am I having a case of space madness (AGAIN !!!:D)
 
I came across a Landable (no atmosphere), Terraformable planet today.

Now I have probably come across them before and not really noticed [noob] ... but others have come across them haven't they?

Or am I having a case of space madness (AGAIN !!!:D)

It's not space madness, I hope, because I too have found a terraformable planet that had no atmosphere.

Could you not drop from SC nearby to the moon and then cruise down in realspace? Or do you just blow up?
You can only get so close even at space normal speeds and while you don't blow up, you do hit the body exclusion zone and can go no closer.
 
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If landables have no atmosphere, how come I experience turbulence when I am landing? In addition, there have been several posts with photo's showing fog on a landable worlds.
With the Dev's being very thorough, there must be an explanation.

That's not turbulence. That's the ship's thrusters continuously compensating to keep you on you specified course. It's not noticeable if you are hovering above the planet at zero inclination and very noticeable if you point your ship's nose down towards the planet. If you were flying FA-off you'd have to do all that yourself and keep your ship at your chosen altitude. Admittedly, FA-on does a pretty good job.
 
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They also have to be dry. Airless lava worlds, water worlds and ammonia worlds are also off limits. And The Moon, of course. :D

and that permit locked moon in lave and the one in disco (maybe not the right name) something or other, more content FD couldn't be bothered to implement.
 
That's not turbulence. That's the ship's thrusters continuously compensating to keep you on you specified course. It's not noticeable if you are hovering above the planet at zero inclination and very noticeable if you point your ship's nose down towards the planet. If you were flying FA-off you'd have to do all that yourself and keep your ship at your chosen altitude. Admittedly, FA-on does a pretty good job.

Thanks, Sapyx and Rhea, Most everything the Dev's do has a purpose in the game (just some make me scratch my head in curiosity). I wasn't complaining, I actually enjoy the turbulence but I thought it might be compensation for gravitation or even magnetic eddy's. I don't like to insert my wild imagination into the facts surrounding the game mechanics (I'm usually wrong ...grin). I appreciate the explanations...Reps to both.
 
Some do. Like Almad 4 c, 0.10 G with 559.63 ATM surface pressure...
Did you scan that particular moon in your screenie?

No I didn't. TBH I didn't expect the answer to be as simple as you can't land because atmosphere. Partly I held this opinion because of screenies or threads showing worlds with mists etc on, which to my mind indicated they had atmospheres of sorts.

I won't be going back to that particular systems again but I'll check the next few ones I see.

So that's it you can't land on anything with an "atmosphere" even if it's a poxy potato shaped rock?
 
No I didn't. TBH I didn't expect the answer to be as simple as you can't land because atmosphere. Partly I held this opinion because of screenies or threads showing worlds with mists etc on, which to my mind indicated they had atmospheres of sorts.

I won't be going back to that particular systems again but I'll check the next few ones I see.

So that's it you can't land on anything with an "atmosphere" even if it's a poxy potato shaped rock?

That's it. It's really that simple.
 
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