Achilles7
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WRONG! It's a FDL
Moving to the PvP subforum.
Achilles7
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Come on Ashnak?...that is just disingenuous! The guy is asking for advice. This vid has a poor, inexperienced PvPer in a FDL vs one of the best in a sidey - we've all beaten rubbish players who have better ships - any discussion has to work on the 'ceteris paribus' rule...anything else skews results.
The FDL is the best all round PvP ship due to it's combo of strengths (very well documented - so I'm not going to go over exactly why!) Only possible exceptions are a - please don't ever do this first one - dull long range Courier (20+ min fight) &/or FAS with PAs &/or rails.
Even a decent PvP pilot in a FDL or FAS will take down a Vette (if they have enough ammo) - I've taken some of the best CG Corvettes (a few times, the most wanted on the top 5 list) down with my Vulture, let alone my FDL & I'm a tier down from the very best PvPers.
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I see hes very skilled yes, but is great to see how he can use a sidey and im thinking to start small to learn the fly around
Ok, I'm not saying the Sidey is the best PvP ship out there, but I still think it depends more on the pilot than the ship, or rather, how well the specific pilot can handle the specific ship. And, of course, on your definition of "best".
For me, at the moment, my best PvP ship is my iCourier, because
a) it's the only halfway decent PvP ship I currently have and
b) I can outrun everything I've encountered so far, including packhounds
That doesn't mean I can win PvP fights (I can't), but if someone tries to force PvP on me (ok, open and all that - let's not go there), all they're going to see are my pretty red shining thrusters.
For me, at the moment, my best PvP ship is my iCourier, because
a) it's the only halfway decent PvP ship I currently have and
b) I can outrun everything I've encountered so far, including packhounds
That doesn't mean I can win PvP fights (I can't), but if someone tries to force PvP on me (ok, open and all that - let's not go there), all they're going to see are my pretty red shining thrusters.
Most would likely say FDL, because it is a combat focused ship that is fairly powerful and fairly cheap not to mention very agile.
That said, it really depends on how you fly, i've seen people in big ships bat away FDL's despit their increased agility over the big ships.
I recommend watching a bit of twitch streamers that PvP, yes the FDL will likely dominate in there, but try to find those that PvP in other ships as well.
Ok, one for sure we can say, there is no "best pvp ship"
There are only good pilots.
But i see on a Vulture a higher boost speed than a Fdl and i think also a effective higher damage/sec due to the wappon points and agility (which depends ofc mostly by the pilot).
If a Fdl is a "combat" ship, why it donst have a military slot ?
There are only good pilots.
But i see on a Vulture a higher boost speed than a Fdl and i think also a effective higher damage/sec due to the wappon points and agility (which depends ofc mostly by the pilot).
If a Fdl is a "combat" ship, why it donst have a military slot ?
Achilles7
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Absolutely the best way to start is small...ViperIII, DBS, Courier & Vulture are all viable starter ships...but be careful at the community goals (CGs) because many players have very good G5 engineered full meta ships & are very experienced too. Personally - as a casual player myself - I advocate this 'in at the deep end' method as a fast-track learning curve.
Remember to vid all of your fights & watch them back a few times; also, ask what you could have done better if you get a chance to chat to your more skilled opponents, either in the aftermath or back at the station. Even the gankers are mostly pretty good guys in this game...if you forget about the actual gank, that is!
For general PvP in random, 'non-hotspot' systems, any of those four ships will be in with a good chance of victory (at least a moral victory) against average players...with engineering ofc as it is ubiquitous, hence essential for PvP now.
Golden rule: 4 pips in sys when under sustained fire (unless you are using SR ofc :O) & as such, it is essential that you appreciate how constant pip management is a very important aspect of combat.
Actually, the real golden rule is...have fun, use all PvP as a learning experience & don't take being killed/ganked/griefed or losing your pretend spaceship, too seriously.
[video=youtube;7DUel3tdM9U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUel3tdM9U[/video]
NB - I'm having an issue with my pacifiers where they randomly fire when I'm not pulling the trigger - which makes the shots after waiting for reloads difficult to judge too! If anyone knows how to resolve this, I'd appreciate it - the amount of clean ships I hit using these is bordering on hilarious atm...so I've reverted to APAs now[big grin]
Well, likely because of balancing since it already without those is a very powerful ship?
To answer his question while being among the smartest of asses; the F63 Condor: https://youtu.be/Qegj5acCTX8?t=279
I'll happily pit your FDL, FAS, or Vulture against my Corvette.
Because it's not a military ship.