Whats with the random chinese dinosaurs?

Grimnir

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What im getting at is that lately alot of really random dinosaurs have appeared which ive never heard of. Are they mentioned in the books? I cant recall hearing of many of them from movies or anywhere else. Could find them on wikipedia though.

What im getting at, is why they were chosen over other more well-known dinosaurs. Frontier seems to have a extreme preference for herbivores over carnivores as well.

Am i the only one with this opinion? I'd rather see more carnivores (which are pretty few by now) than randomely chosen herbivores that are unheard of. One could argue that FK DLC and deluxe edition helps on the carnivore numbers but i still think that its quite few.

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PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
Grimnir said:
What im getting at is that lately alot of really random dinosaurs have appeared which ive never heard of. Are they mentioned in the books? I cant recall hearing of many of them from movies or anywhere else. Could find them on wikipedia though.

What im getting at, is why they were chosen over other more well-known dinosaurs. Frontier seems to have a extreme preference for herbivores over carnivores as well.

Am i the only one with this opinion? I'd rather see more carnivores (which are pretty few by now) than randomely chosen herbivores that are unheard of. One could argue that FK DLC and deluxe edition helps on the carnivore numbers but i still think that its quite few.
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People complained that Frontier had too many well known Dinosaurs, now they complain that there are too many obscure Dinosaurs. lol

None of these Dinosaurs are mentioned in the books. Matter of fact a detail from the first novel is that John Hammond was only sponsoring and interested in cold weather dig sites, basically dig site in the northern hemisphere. This was never elaborated on in the book but I believe the was that cold weather digs would have more salvageable biological material/DNA. This is all science fiction of course, but there was some Rex soft tissue found a while back. But you can't clone a T-Rex from it. There were no Dinosaurs from China in the books anywhere. The Chinese Dinosaurs are all done by Frontier.

matter of fact if the game followed the lore of the first novel there wouldn't be any dig sites warm climates. That would cut out some dig sites. But would explain why a lot of the dig sites are in America and Canada.
 

Grimnir

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PCMR4Life said:
People complained that Frontier had too many well known Dinosaurs, now they complain that there are too many obscure Dinosaurs. lol

None of these Dinosaurs are mentioned in the books. Matter of fact a detail from the first novel is that John Hammond was only sponsoring and interested in cold weather dig sites, basically dig site in the northern hemisphere. This was never elaborated on in the book but I believe the was that cold weather digs would have more salvageable biological material/DNA. This is all science fiction of course, but there was some Rex soft tissue found a while back. But you can't clone a T-Rex from it. There were no Dinosaurs from China in the books anywhere. The Chinese Dinosaurs are all done by Frontier.

matter of fact if the game followed the lore of the first novel there wouldn't be any dig sites warm climates. That would cut out some dig sites. But would explain why a lot of the dig sites are in America and Canada.
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I am actually not complaining. There's very few dinosaurs i dislike in the game so far, but i was more after a answer. On the carnivore thing im pretty certain Giganotosaurus is in the game. But would really want carnivores as unique as Acrocanthosaurus. Or Megalosaurids... Megalosaurids need some love.
 

Lora Craft69

Lora Craft69
All of the movie dinosaurs will be in the game except for Compsognathus.
Yes we would all love our favorite dinosaurs to be in the game but that would mean making nearly every species ever found to keep everyone happy.
13 carnivores out of 47 species including the FK dlc is pretty good and if you add the two hybrids, you have even more carnivores, that's 1 out of 3.
 
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PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
Lora Craft69 said:
All of the movie dinosaurs will be in the game except for Compsognathus.
Yes we would all love our favorite dinosaurs to be in the game but that would mean making nearly every species ever found to keep everyone happy.
13 carnivores out of 47 species including the FK dlc is pretty good and if you add the two hybrids, you have even more carnivores, that's 1 out of 3.
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Here is what I have. What are the others.

1. Tyrannosaurus Rex
2. Raptors
3. Ceratosaurus
4. Dilophosaurus
5. Carnotaurus
6. Majungasaurus
7 Spinosaurus
8. Indo-Rex
9. Indo-Raptor
10. Suchomimus
11. Deinonychus
12. Metriacanthosaurus
 
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Lora Craft69

Lora Craft69
PCMR4Life said:
Here is what I have. What are the others.

1. Tyrannosaurus Rex
2. Raptors
3. Ceratosaurus
4. Dilophosaurus
5. Carnotaurus.
6. Majungasaurus
7 Spinosaurus
8. Indo-Rex
9. Indo-Raptor
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Deinonychus, Metriacanthosaurus, Baryonyx, Allosaurus, Suchomimus and Giganotosaurus.
Last one rumored but all others confirmed and there is still place for one or two more.
 

PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
Lora Craft69 said:
And the Baryonyx and Allosaurus. ;)
The Giganotosaurus isn't confirmed.
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I only went with Dinosaurs I know that will be in the game. I am sure we will get other Carnivores with the JWFK DLC but I didn't want to put something in my list that we don't have 100% confirmation of.
 

Baryonyx

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Hoping to get big sales in China?

I'm glad they're featured. It's cool to have alot of dinosaurs from a different region than the US.

No carnivores confirmed yet from China so I wonder if we'll get one of the more well known ones like Monolophosaurus or Yutyrannus to fill that hole.
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
Well - assuming we stick with the 49 dinosaurs (37 base species, 5 Deluxe species, 5 Fallen Kingdom species & 2 hybrids)

Here is my take on the likely carnivores.

Known regular in game species.

1. T.rex
2. Velociraptor
3. Deinonychus
4. Ceratosaurus
5. Dilophosaurus
6. Spinosaurus
7. Suchomimus (Deluxe edition)
8. Metricanthosaurus (Deluxe edition)
9. Carnotaurus (confirmed FK DLC)
10. Baryonyx (FK DLC)
11. Allosaurus (FK DLC)

Other likely species in regular game

12. Giganotosaurus
13. Gorgosaurus
14. Indominus rex (Hybrid)
15. Indoraptor (Hybrid)


Other species which have a possibility - although likely there will only be one or two of these species

Zhuchentyrannus/Tarbosaurus
Qianzhousaurus/Alioramus
Nanotyrannus (I know it is often considered as a juvie T.rex. But then Dracorex and Stygimoloch are considered to be juvie forms of Pachycephalosaurus, so who knows)

Siats/Acrocanthosaurus
Neovenator

Torvosaurus
Eustreptospondylus
 
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MrGoodbytes

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Dinosaurs are dinosaurs as far as I'm concerned. I love 'em all. While I agree that the number of carnivores is a bit on the small side, the ones we are getting all look fantastic.
 

starman

starman
PCMR4Life said:
People complained that Frontier had too many well known Dinosaurs, now they complain that there are too many obscure Dinosaurs. lol

None of these Dinosaurs are mentioned in the books. Matter of fact a detail from the first novel is that John Hammond was only sponsoring and interested in cold weather dig sites, basically dig site in the northern hemisphere. This was never elaborated on in the book but I believe the was that cold weather digs would have more salvageable biological material/DNA. This is all science fiction of course, but there was some Rex soft tissue found a while back. But you can't clone a T-Rex from it. There were no Dinosaurs from China in the books anywhere. The Chinese Dinosaurs are all done by Frontier.

matter of fact if the game followed the lore of the first novel there wouldn't be any dig sites warm climates. That would cut out some dig sites. But would explain why a lot of the dig sites are in America and Canada.
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The 'local' Chinese serves a dish called stir fry peeking dragon.
 

PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
Baryonyx said:
Hoping to get big sales in China?

I'm glad they're featured. It's cool to have alot of dinosaurs from a different region than the US.

No carnivores confirmed yet from China so I wonder if we'll get one of the more well known ones like Monolophosaurus or Yutyrannus to fill that hole.
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If one the regions the game is set to release in is I China then I wouldn't doubt that. The Chinese are pretty nationalistic so having Chinese Dinosaurs in the game would be a big deal.
 

m2wester

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Regarding the chinese ones: I do find it a bit curious that the ones we have were picked over more well known Asian dinosaurs such as Therizinosaurus, Tarbosaurus, Deinocheirus, Shantungosaurus. I guess they didn't want to go through the effort of animating the Therizinosaurus or the Deinocheirus, which look quite different from other dinosaurs, but it's still interesting I think.

Regarding Carnivore/Herbivore, I think it's fine. There's a nice cladistic overview on reddit; what's missing so far is Maniraptors other than Dromaeosaurs (no Theriziniosaur, no Oviraptor, no Troodon, no bird), Titanosaurs, Prosauropods and early Iguanotondids. Clades of large carnivores are fairly well represented from that point of view (yes, no Megalosaurids, but the closely related Spinosaurids are overrepresented...).

From a gameplay perspective, I simply don't think it would be very enjoyable to have more than 1/3 Carnivores, because we probably can't make multi-species exhibits with them and I honestly think most of the large carnivores look very similar to each other. I don't think any of the unconfirmed ones would add something really exciting and new. I'd rather not have a large number of small-ish and similar one-species carnivore exhibits in my parks.
 

Lora Craft69

Lora Craft69
Dinoken said:
Well - assuming we stick with the 49 dinosaurs (37 base species, 5 Deluxe species, 5 Fallen Kingdom species & 2 hybrids)

Here is my take on the likely carnivores.

Known regular in game species.

1. T.rex
2. Velociraptor
3. Deinonychus
4. Ceratosaurus
5. Dilophosaurus
6. Spinosaurus
7. Suchomimus (Deluxe edition)
8. Metricanthosaurus (Deluxe edition)
9. Carnotaurus (confirmed FK DLC)
10. Baryonyx (FK DLC)
11. Allosaurus (FK DLC)

Other likely species in regular game

12. Giganotosaurus
13. Gorgosaurus
14. Indominus rex (Hybrid)
15. Indoraptor (Hybrid)


Other species which have a possibility - although likely there will only be one or two of these species

Zhuchentyrannus/Tarbosaurus
Qianzhousaurus/Alioramus
Nanotyrannus (I know it is often considered as a juvie T.rex. But then Dracorex and Stygimoloch are considered to be juvie forms of Pachycephalosaurus, so who knows)

Siats/Acrocanthosaurus
Neovenator

Torvosaurus
Eustreptospondylus
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You forgot Majungasaurus (Deluxe edition).
Metriacanthosaurus is base game.
 
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MarkyB83

MarkyB83
Just a random thought...... maybe Jurassic World 3 will partly be set in Asia and this Universal's way of 'planting the seed' to get its audience to become familiar and therefore accept those species early (especially as Colin Trevorrow confirmed no more hybrids.... I think they still have to find a way of adding new dinos). I'm pretty sure in one of the novels there was something mentioned about if the original Jurassic Park on Nublar was a success then a Jurassic Park Europe and Jurassic Park Asia would follow too.
 
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