Where is everyone selling their void opals?
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Google “Elite miners tool” I’m on my phone so I can’t add a link yet,but it has all the best mining locations with an updated closest best price.
EDDB is as accurate as you make it (if you play on console, ignore the following).
The data on EDDB (and similar sites that use the same underlying database) comes from players (on PC), usually (there's also rumoured to be a manual way of adding the data to EDDB) running one of the feeder tools like EDMC or EDDiscovery. Every time a CMDR docks at a station, these tools grab (if you let them - some traders prefer to update manually to keep a good route secret for a while) the market data form the API and update the database.
For VO high sell, the age of the information is less critical then the tick - was that info entered into the DB before or after the last tick? If before, then yes, a 1.3 M sales price could easily have dropped to 600 k. Only way around that is to run EDMC (smallest footprint) or one of the other tools yourself and feed the database.
Three states are required for peak Void Opal prices: Investment, Civil Liberty, and Pirate Attack - each of them approximately doubles the prices, so the combination of the three gives an 8x increase.
Investment and Civil Liberty can be sustained indefinitely relatively easily if there's enough player activity in the system, but Pirate Attacks only last three days - and then can't recur for at least 25 days (and usually take longer than that in most systems)
Any EDDB pricing data older than the last BGS tick (currently just after 1200 in-game time, exact time depending on the system) therefore has about a 1-in-3 chance of incorrectly indicating that the price is still at its peak. Depending on when you're playing, that might mean that data 20 hours old is fine, or it might mean that data 20 minutes old is not.
Investment and Civil Liberty can be sustained indefinitely relatively easily if there's enough player activity in the system, but Pirate Attacks only last three days - and then can't recur for at least 25 days (and usually take longer than that in most systems)
Any EDDB pricing data older than the last BGS tick (currently just after 1200 in-game time, exact time depending on the system) therefore has about a 1-in-3 chance of incorrectly indicating that the price is still at its peak. Depending on when you're playing, that might mean that data 20 hours old is fine, or it might mean that data 20 minutes old is not.
While you're at Reddot, you can get one of the permits (LHS 998?? not sure) from the Order.
If you like collecting permits, that is
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If you like collecting permits, that is
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The miner tool Stealthie linked you to is what I use, really simple.
In EDDB you go into commodities, scroll down click on Void Opals. If you click best selling this will bring up the top prices and places to sell. Above that you can type in your current location as a reference and EDDB will find prices close to you but only within 25ly so it's not always hugely helpful.
In EDDB you go into commodities, scroll down click on Void Opals. If you click best selling this will bring up the top prices and places to sell. Above that you can type in your current location as a reference and EDDB will find prices close to you but only within 25ly so it's not always hugely helpful.
I’m sitting on 12.5 billion that disagrees.
It is not about knowing how to use eddb, but how accurate eddb data is. If the players don't contribute updating the database, it will be useless. So, if you are using those 3rd party websites and you are in PC, you should help adding data with one of the tools mentioned above. They are automatic and unintrusive.
For those people who complain, but refuse to help... well, you cook it, you eat it.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I just checked and the Miner Tool states it goes to EDDB to get the 'up-to-date' data, as in prices. So one is only as accurate as the other
Yep.
The only good thing* about the mining tool is that it just gives you a destination rather than, potentially, baffling you with a heap of information.
Colour me paranoid but after I finish a mining run I cross-check the mining tool with EDDB and INARA.
There are times when EDDB (or INARA) will tell me there are places, slightly further away, where I can sell my cargo for a slightly higher price but the difference is usually only a few percent and obviously the mining tool's algorithm factors in the travel distance to provide a single suitable destination.
"A man with a watch knows the time. A man with 2 watches is never sure" and all that.
*When I say "the only good thing" I mean in terms of how it presents advice. It's a terrific app' and I don't mean to suggest there's nothing especially good about it.
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Yea, I'm on console. Otherwise I'm sure I wouldn't be having as much difficulty. On the bright side I pulled in a big haul
Who doesn't like collecting permits?While you're at Reddot, you can get one of the permits (LHS 998?? not sure) from the Order.
If you like collecting permits, that is
o7
In general all of these tools work in the same way with a common data source. There's an intermediate layer called EDDN (ED Data Network). Desktop apps like EDSM and EDDiscovery send data to EDDN ... the various web tools you've heard of and a bunch you haven't then read the data from EDDN.
So the underlying data should generally be very consistent between the tools - the differentiation is in how they optimise the presentation for particular purposes.
Soooo....
Does that mean systems that offer the best prices are likely to have all three of these states present?
I'd like to have a way to locate systems that have Pirate Attack USSs.
Yes, always use this tool, all miners should - it's what I use to lie in wait for miners to pirate.
While there are other factors affecting prices, the state multipliers are overwhelmingly large in comparison, so if it's offering the best prices it must have all three present (and if it doesn't, it'll be offering sub-million prices)
They don't technically need to be present on the system, just on any faction that owns a commodity market - however, they're much more likely to be on the system controlling faction because that is more able to attract the required activity to acquire those states.
"Pirate Activity Detected" signal sources appear when a system controlling faction is in Civil Unrest or Lockdown. It helps - since they appear in some of the same places - if there are no Wars in the system, and it's possible that the Debris Fields of Outbreak or the Distribution Centres (ha ha) of Famine could also mask them.I'd like to have a way to locate systems that have Pirate Attack USSs.
Set the Galmap filter to State:Civil Unrest and scan around - I hear there's a lot around Lave right now - or do the equivalent in EDDB.
For historical reasons they have nothing to do with the Pirate Attack state.
At least one of the two CG systems has Pirate Attack USS (well, did a few hours ago) - think it wasI'd like to have a way to locate systems that have Pirate Attack USSs.
As Ian said, the Pirate Attack state lasts just three days. You can't predict where or when they're going to happen, but there is a way to check when they started.
You can check a system with this tool before you go there. You'll see a graph of the faction states in the system, including the day on which a state was first observed. That will usually - but not always - have been Day 1 for that state. So if you're looking after the daily tick and you see that a Pirate Attack state started less than four days earlier you can be pretty confident that those prices will still be in effect.
You can check a system with this tool before you go there. You'll see a graph of the faction states in the system, including the day on which a state was first observed. That will usually - but not always - have been Day 1 for that state. So if you're looking after the daily tick and you see that a Pirate Attack state started less than four days earlier you can be pretty confident that those prices will still be in effect.
I sell mine to a wandering NPC Type-9.
Or rather I did, back in the beta. I haven't mined since then.
Or rather I did, back in the beta. I haven't mined since then.