Powerplay Faction: Li Yong-Rui Who makes these choices?!

[Ketzerfreund]

** WARNING: Rant incoming! **

So, either we're being heavily sabotaged, or the crowd of Sirius contractors is comprised of brain-dead imbeciles. I can't explain the kind of expansion choices this crowd makes otherwise, it's really frustrating to watch. This crowd is constantly going for isolated systems that nobody's ever going to bother to fortify, while being guaranteed to be undermined every week. This crowd is going for instant gratification almost every week like five year olds, leaving gaps everywhere in Sirius territory that can never be profitably filled. Yeah, that green blotch in the middle of a bunch of other green blotches is just too sexy, eh? That it would be a better idea to split areas like these up between two or three control systems instead of one that's surrounded by leftovers is an idea that only few seem to be able to grasp (three control systems at 30 CC each or one control system at 90 - guess in which case the undermining of one system is going to hurt more). Apparently, trying to establish a dense network of control systems instead of this loose collection of isolated dumps would be just too sensible.

The two systems currently chosen for preparation, HR 2776 and V2689 Orionis, are testament to this. They're both excessively dumb choices. Competing against Hudson for HR 2776 is obviously failing, which was to be expected, and V2689 is going to be undermined by Mahonists easily. The only thing that the people who thought these choices were good ideas are doing is to bind just more iron balls to Sirius' feet.

I'm not going to bother to lift a finger for that part of Sirius PP anymore, it's hopeless. I'm just going to continue to earn my merits by going for hunts in Hudson's red bubbles nearby for the money. It's just not worth spending any further thought on the rest.

Sorry for the harsh language, I just had to get this off my chest.
Rant over.

 

[SHEPR0N]

Just stumbled on this post and I think you got some things seriously wrong. If you want to believe an Hudson CMDR of course First you know of the Sirius subreddit? I think your questions would be better placed there. Also there are a lot of people in PowerPlay that don't do things that are actually good for their own power, some because of missing knowledge/interest or actual intended sabotage intents.

Yeah, that green blotch in the middle of a bunch of other green blotches is just too sexy, eh? That it would be a better idea to split areas like these up between two or three control systems instead of one that's surrounded by leftovers is an idea that only few seem to be able to grasp (three control systems at 30 CC each or one control system at 90 - guess in which case the undermining of one system is going to hurt more). Apparently, trying to establish a dense network of control systems instead of this loose collection of isolated dumps would be just too sensible.

Are you aware a power of the size of Sirius Corp has to pay overheads of ~62CC per system that are not accounted for on the income number on the galaxy map? The loose collection of isolated dumps is just a sheer necessity to keep things profitable, a (too) dense network is a terrible idea. Just take your three systems vs one system example, it would be -96CC vs +28CC profit.

The two systems currently chosen for preparation, HR 2776 and V2689 Orionis, are testament to this. They're both excessively dumb choices. Competing against Hudson for HR 2776 is obviously failing, which was to be expected, and V2689 is going to be undermined by Mahonists easily. The only thing that the people who thought these choices were good ideas are doing is to bind just more iron balls to Sirius' feet.

HR 2776 is not a bad system for Sirius. There are simply not many good ones left that are not already occupied. I don't see why it's obviously failing, it's in expansion now. The organised Hudson players have no intent of opposing it, so I don't know where you see the competition?

I'm not going to bother to lift a finger for that part of Sirius PP anymore, it's hopeless. I'm just going to continue to earn my merits by going for hunts in Hudson's red bubbles nearby for the money. It's just not worth spending any further thought on the rest.

Come on no reason no reason to go after our poor Federal agents. They are just doing their job More siriusly, I'd give PP another shot. Try to get in touch with the other organised players, on your own it's just a grind without purpose really.

 

[richard_uk]

** WARNING: Rant incoming! **

So, either we're being heavily sabotaged, or the crowd of Sirius contractors is comprised of brain-dead imbeciles. I can't explain the kind of expansion choices this crowd makes otherwise, it's really frustrating to watch. This crowd is constantly going for isolated systems that nobody's ever going to bother to fortify, while being guaranteed to be undermined every week. This crowd is going for instant gratification almost every week like five year olds, leaving gaps everywhere in Sirius territory that can never be profitably filled. Yeah, that green blotch in the middle of a bunch of other green blotches is just too sexy, eh? That it would be a better idea to split areas like these up between two or three control systems instead of one that's surrounded by leftovers is an idea that only few seem to be able to grasp (three control systems at 30 CC each or one control system at 90 - guess in which case the undermining of one system is going to hurt more). Apparently, trying to establish a dense network of control systems instead of this loose collection of isolated dumps would be just too sensible.

The two systems currently chosen for preparation, HR 2776 and V2689 Orionis, are testament to this. They're both excessively dumb choices. Competing against Hudson for HR 2776 is obviously failing, which was to be expected, and V2689 is going to be undermined by Mahonists easily. The only thing that the people who thought these choices were good ideas are doing is to bind just more iron balls to Sirius' feet.

I'm not going to bother to lift a finger for that part of Sirius PP anymore, it's hopeless. I'm just going to continue to earn my merits by going for hunts in Hudson's red bubbles nearby for the money. It's just not worth spending any further thought on the rest.

Sorry for the harsh language, I just had to get this off my chest.
Rant over.

Hi CMDR Ketzerfreund

I know I'm several weeks late but if you are serious about helping Sirius Corp and want to get involved in a more meaningful and constructive fashion you will find most of the info about the power and how to help on our Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteSirius/). Especially you will find a list of systems currently in focus of our efforts. Our power is small enough that independent actions of pilots do hurt more than they help, especially if inexperienced.

For even more in deep involvement in the working of helping Li Yong-Rui you are also welcome to drop by in our Voice+Chat server on Discord (https://discord.gg/0g95XxxKRctfg47L).

Hope to see you in Lembava sometime soon

CMDR Buck Richard

 

[Ogidch]

Late reply to this thread, but well said! Consolidate the surrounding systems within 80Ly first I say, even if they are low CC. (Trying to prep Inhers at the minute)

Only been dipping my toe in PowerPlay for the last few weeks and seems ok so far but has it's flaws.

Would like to see some kind of factional chat so you speak to others online and maybe collaborate on the spur of the moment.

 

[CoatOSilver]

Welcome CMDR!

Please visit our reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteSirius/) for some background info and our Discord Voice+Chat channels (https://discord.gg/0g95XxxKRcw7ypJZ) to work together in powerplay or for just a good time.

The powerplay mechanic is a bit more complicated than apparent on first glance, including some misleading information on the galaxy map. Consolidating systems as you, or the original poster, suggest is a very bad idea. We have a base cost of 62 CC per system at the moment, so any system with less income will hurt us. Inhers with 27CC shown on the in game screens will actualy cost us 45CC as long as we hold it. Plus, as it is such a bad system, it will even be rather hard to get rid off afterwards.

Furthermore it is very hard for a single pilot to actualy meet the triggers necessary for the various actions so some coordinated efforts are neccessary to be actualy helpful. So join us in our communities to coordinate the efforts.

Regards

CMDR CoatOSilver (Sirius Gov Board)

 

[dynamicbob]

The sirius subreddit is the main link, and the main particpants are harriers, the dukes of jotun if still active, a few smaller outfits and some small scale efforts by the sirius inc player group over at www.siriusinc.enjin.com ( but we have drifted away from doing a lot of powerplay until some major overhauls are done)

 

[Matzov]

Late reply to this thread, but well said! Consolidate the surrounding systems within 80Ly first I say, even if they are low CC. (Trying to prep Inhers at the minute)

I am afraid that is the route to disaster and ruin. Picking up unprofitable systems purely for the sake of making one big blob has resulted in turmoil for everyone that has done it. As the others have said, drop by the reddit, or even better, the Discord, and all the mechanics, politics, and strategy will become much clearer.

 

[Quantrix]

** WARNING: Rant incoming! **

Cool, then you won't mind if I rant a bit myself.

So, either we're being heavily sabotaged, or the crowd of Sirius contractors is comprised of brain-dead imbeciles. I can't explain the kind of expansion choices this crowd makes otherwise, it's really frustrating to watch. This crowd is constantly going for isolated systems that nobody's ever going to bother to fortify, while being guaranteed to be undermined every week. This crowd is going for instant gratification almost every week like five year olds, leaving gaps everywhere in Sirius territory that can never be profitably filled. Yeah, that green blotch in the middle of a bunch of other green blotches is just too sexy, eh? That it would be a better idea to split areas like these up between two or three control systems instead of one that's surrounded by leftovers is an idea that only few seem to be able to grasp (three control systems at 30 CC each or one control system at 90 - guess in which case the undermining of one system is going to hurt more). Apparently, trying to establish a dense network of control systems instead of this loose collection of isolated dumps would be just too sensible.

The two systems currently chosen for preparation, HR 2776 and V2689 Orionis, are testament to this. They're both excessively dumb choices. Competing against Hudson for HR 2776 is obviously failing, which was to be expected, and V2689 is going to be undermined by Mahonists easily. The only thing that the people who thought these choices were good ideas are doing is to bind just more iron balls to Sirius' feet.

I'm not going to bother to lift a finger for that part of Sirius PP anymore, it's hopeless. I'm just going to continue to earn my merits by going for hunts in Hudson's red bubbles nearby for the money. It's just not worth spending any further thought on the rest.

Sorry for the harsh language, I just had to get this off my chest.
Rant over.

Let's see. On one side, we have thousands of players, organized in groups with forums, chat servers, talking to each other all the time, who have played this PP game for nearly a year now. On the other side, we have a single commander who has played it for a couple of weeks. Question: Who is more likely to overlook some detail? Oh, I know, of course the rest of the world has clearly gone mad!

Has the option that *you* overlook something never even entered your mind? After all, you could have visited the reddit - there are links to them on this forum -, a Discord server - there are links to them on the reddits -. Or maybe you could have used google to find some information on a thing called "overhead".

But instead of informing yourself, you came here to rant.