Who's tried a Rift and didn't like it?
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I am not sure if he looks at this forum any more (if you do still then sorry for speaking on your behalf) but the only one I know if is Dr Zachary Smith (I think he has tried one now**).
Most people I know however like it or love it, depending, tho I think we can all say it has its issues - mostly SDE and resolution, with a small helping of lack of field of view.
**I must admit tho personally I cant help but feel his mind was already firmly made up before even putting the headset on
Most people I know however like it or love it, depending, tho I think we can all say it has its issues - mostly SDE and resolution, with a small helping of lack of field of view.
**I must admit tho personally I cant help but feel his mind was already firmly made up before even putting the headset on
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I tried it at the exhibition in London but didn't like it. The low resolution meant I couldn't read the text properly. However, I am blind in one eye so 3D is lost on me and this may have also added to the low resolution problem. Being able to look around was brilliant but it still felt more like a gimmick than a game.
Yep, he's the man to rip it to shreds for you, and to try and sell you on a Sony HMZ! Beachlight7 probably doesn't like it either as he's obsessed with the idea of the Sony Morpheus and PS4.
Most other people love it, or at least love the potential it shows but are put off by the obvious limitations of the development kit.
The guy who I bought my rift from allowed me to test his, he had Elite dangerous and a roller coaster demo, I was hugely disappointed! Everything looked blury and the wrong size. I thought screw it, I'm here and the money is in my pocket.
Took mine home, did a lot of research, setup my IPD correctly and followed some guides to setting up the Nvidia control panel. Loaded up ED and then said the F word constantly for the next few hours, the difference was mind blowing, night and day compared to the quick demo I had at his house.
Moral of the story, definitely don't judge it on using someone's else's. I could have easily gone home with my cash and proceeded to tell everything how rubbish it was.
Enjoyed the Rift so much at EGX, I bought one in December instead of a bigger GFX card.
It runs pretty well on my nVidia GTX660 (Ultra using DSR with no AA).
Issues
So, expensive, fiddly, needs a good graphics card and the resolution isn't great. Why on earth would I buy one?
Because it is amazingly immersive. Until you've sat on the bridge of the Anaconda and looked at the huge space behind you, at the mat marked "bridge" in front of the lift doors behind the pilots chair, looked at the navigators seat and seen clearly how far away it is, how BIG it is, you haven't really experienced it.
Combat, where you can look up through the canopy of your Eagle to follow your target as he tries to change direction to avoid you as you climb. Docking a Lakon Type-6 where you can see the pad below you. I could dock one without the pad holo easy! Watching terraformed worlds and planetary rings as you approach is incredible. I've overflown more than a few stations admiring the scenery.
It's nothing like 3D cinema. I hate that and cannot even watch it. Gives me a blinding headache. I couldn't even see 3D using the nVidia glasses, I think because of my left eye stigmatism.
Not everyone's cup of tea, but if you get someone to take the time to adjust it for you to get the full effect, it's like going from a silent black-n-white film to colour with surround sound!
It runs pretty well on my nVidia GTX660 (Ultra using DSR with no AA).
Issues
- It's heavy. Not massively, but you feel it after you've been playing a few hours. That said, my neck must have buffed up, because I'm noticing it less and less.
- Screen resolution. 1920x1080 divided in half isn't much (960x1080 per eye) which means the pixels are visible. What the US call "screen door" effect (like looking at something through mesh). This was the biggest downside to the DK2 for Elite, as the text was near impossible to read. However, since HUD colour change has been available (by altering the GraphicsOptions.xml) we can switch to a green HUD. Why? The green pixels on the Samsung screen the DK2 uses are half the size of the red pixels, so green text is sharp and readable. (Lirezh demonstrated it well here)
- No keyboard. Basically when you are using the rift, you are IN the game and blind to the world around you. If you don't have a HOTAS joystick and can't touch-type, unless you can use voice-attack (speech recognition) you're stuffed. Also, finding systems in the galaxy map is currently a problem. I am hoping Frontier will pop a fly-out keypad in there for rift users.
- It needs some adjustment for each person. Fine if you have 20/20 eyesight and a small nose. But if you have poor eyesight (I wear contacts or glasses) and your nose sticks out (guilty!) then you may need to swap the A lenses for the B (short sighted) lenses and change the visor depth for you face and eye focus preference. Otherwise you miss the full effect or find it too uncomfortable.
So, expensive, fiddly, needs a good graphics card and the resolution isn't great. Why on earth would I buy one?
Because it is amazingly immersive. Until you've sat on the bridge of the Anaconda and looked at the huge space behind you, at the mat marked "bridge" in front of the lift doors behind the pilots chair, looked at the navigators seat and seen clearly how far away it is, how BIG it is, you haven't really experienced it.
Combat, where you can look up through the canopy of your Eagle to follow your target as he tries to change direction to avoid you as you climb. Docking a Lakon Type-6 where you can see the pad below you. I could dock one without the pad holo easy! Watching terraformed worlds and planetary rings as you approach is incredible. I've overflown more than a few stations admiring the scenery.
It's nothing like 3D cinema. I hate that and cannot even watch it. Gives me a blinding headache. I couldn't even see 3D using the nVidia glasses, I think because of my left eye stigmatism.
Not everyone's cup of tea, but if you get someone to take the time to adjust it for you to get the full effect, it's like going from a silent black-n-white film to colour with surround sound!
I agree with all of the views expressed so far. I only use one eye, so the 3D part of it is lost on me too, and it could use a bit higher resolution. Not too much or you'll need to sell your house to buy graphics cards! The "Crescent Bay" sounds good at 1440p. For Elite, supersampling at 1440p plus the green text thing sorted it for me.
It has its issues but the immersion is nothing short of amazing. Everything is 1:1 scale and I feel that I am there. I am certain that E looks fantastic on triple 30 inch 4K monitors with IR tracking, but that's still looking at nice images on fancy monitors in your house. I'm in a spaceship.
It has its issues but the immersion is nothing short of amazing. Everything is 1:1 scale and I feel that I am there. I am certain that E
looks fantastic on triple 30 inch 4K monitors with IR tracking, but that's still looking at nice images on fancy monitors in your house. I'm in a spaceship. 
Some people will be quick to point out the dk2's flaws, but I can tell you given the choice, of playing ED on my 28" 4k monitor, or at 1080p with my dk2 and its Screen Door Effect. DK2 will win every time, (at least until rift fatigue kicks in, then I switch back)
There really is no substitute for feeling like your actually there, and even though the dk2 is just an early devkit. FDEV have done a remarkable job of making the most out of it. It really is incredible.
There really is no substitute for feeling like your actually there, and even though the dk2 is just an early devkit. FDEV have done a remarkable job of making the most out of it. It really is incredible.
Got my rift yesterday, not fine tuned it in yet, had to load up Elite as fast as possible.
Sitting in a Sidewinder, looping around asteroids for 20 minutes - On a 42inch monitor -- ok, with a rift -- AMAZING
The graphics aren't as pin sharp as on my monitor, the text is fuzzy, but I'M SITTING IN A SIDEWINDER *LOL*
Sitting in a Sidewinder, looping around asteroids for 20 minutes - On a 42inch monitor -- ok, with a rift -- AMAZING
The graphics aren't as pin sharp as on my monitor, the text is fuzzy, but I'M SITTING IN A SIDEWINDER *LOL*
I have my rift for about a week now, but only used it for maybe 2-3 hours in game so far. I absolutely love the experience, but in combination with my glasses the visual is horrible (massive chromatic abberation - not a while line with coloured edges, but red, green and blue lines with black inbetween them). I suspect/understand this has to do with the material of my glasses and the specific correction they do. When I use my contact lenses (which I shouldn't due to an eye infection, but have done a few times anyway), everything is much better though. Can't wait til i can wear my contacts fulltime again
love the rift, and even the feeling of slight sickness when in different events.. such as in super cruise and you slowly rotate , watching your destination target and orbit line rotating. .suddenly stop and WOW! head spins.... ha ha .
but I DONT like the RIPPLING effects I get with HORIZIONTAL LINES . ie in the space stations the edges of building ripple.... when entering a docking port it makes it hard to judge entry because all the horizontal lines ,the doorway,the grill thingy,.. YUK with out the cursor dot on the screen docking is extremely hard.
but I DONT like the RIPPLING effects I get with HORIZIONTAL LINES . ie in the space stations the edges of building ripple.... when entering a docking port it makes it hard to judge entry because all the horizontal lines ,the doorway,the grill thingy,.. YUK with out the cursor dot on the screen docking is extremely hard.
I have a rift and am not a big fan of DK2 and Elite
Too low res, cockpits are cool, text and menu's are annoying but can kinda deal with it, trying to distinguish a ship at the end of firing range is really hard, is it a sidewinder or asp?
Have to keep it in the sweet spot and need to adjust it often in a session
Itchy on your face
Gets hot
Eyes have to look direct ahead when you want to look around, so you end up doing effectively head tracking to look around.
I also can suffer from nausea, Elite is bearable most of the time but once you get affected then your night is ruined.
I do believe in Rift and VR in general it just needs to be much better or we need to play games with simple graphics that are designed for rift until then.
Too low res, cockpits are cool, text and menu's are annoying but can kinda deal with it, trying to distinguish a ship at the end of firing range is really hard, is it a sidewinder or asp?
Have to keep it in the sweet spot and need to adjust it often in a session
Itchy on your face
Gets hot
Eyes have to look direct ahead when you want to look around, so you end up doing effectively head tracking to look around.
I also can suffer from nausea, Elite is bearable most of the time but once you get affected then your night is ruined.
I do believe in Rift and VR in general it just needs to be much better or we need to play games with simple graphics that are designed for rift until then.
My wife. Instant she used the joystick to roll, she pull them off due to motion sickness. Darn, guess I won't be able to share it with her!
I am not sure if he looks at this forum any more (if you do still then sorry for speaking on your behalf) but the only one I know if is Dr Zachary Smith (I think he has tried one now**).
Most people I know however like it or love it, depending, tho I think we can all say it has its issues - mostly SDE and resolution, with a small helping of lack of field of view.
**I must admit tho personally I cant help but feel his mind was already firmly made up before even putting the headset on
Yeh I liked the rift , the Sony HMZ with head tracking was better though, just because the picture is excellent quality. Although refresh rate isn't so good.
I always liked the rift, even before I tried it, I was using the HMZ early on before rift and having a blast using a gyroscopic wireless mouse attached to it.
BUT I don't like the rift enough to buy one yet, and I am sceptical about a CV1 release for many reasons.
I also sold the HMZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZKS-FuMOgE
and finally concluded that it's far too much hassle for me personally to be bothered fussing about sticking things to my face , tweaking and generally fumbling just to play a game, would rather just monitor on and go.
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I was disappointed when the dk2 melted my brain. Then my head exploded and I felt much better.
Can you not just push up the goggles for a second?..
I'm a bit gutted reading all the good comments here. Was less than a week from buying one when my boiler died and I had to fork out a grand and a half, putting off buying a DK 2.