Why am I not seeing the hotspots anymore?

ithinkiam

ithinkiam
Over the last couple of sessions I've noticed I don't see the hotspots properly anymore. I lauch a probe at the ring and they show up in the Nav panel, but not in my cockpit view (see below). Anyone had this? Is it a bug?
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I've probed dozens of rings and this hasn't happened before.

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Hmm, can't seem to upload images...

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Now I can. Previously it was too big. The "Ooops there was a problem is not very informative..."
 
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ZAKALWEINC8876

ZAKALWEINC8876
ithinkiam said:
Over the last couple of sessions I've noticed I don't see the hotspots properly anymore. I lauch a probe at the ring and they show up in the Nav panel, but not in my cockpit view (see below). Anyone had this? Is it a bug?

I've probed dozens of rings and this hasn't happened before.

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Hmm, can't seem to upload images...
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I have also had this happen recently, hadn't been mining for a while an thought maybe it has changed/was a bug. Like you say they are still there on the contacts panel but no info from the cockpit.

o7
 

Sunyavadin

Sunyavadin
Wolf Starslayer said:
In combat mode instead of analysis mode ? Think only visible in analysis.
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The screenshot clearly shows it's in analysis mode. Guess it was added after your reply?


Is it possible this is related to some of the other DSS issues? It seems to be the exact opposite problem to the very well documented issue of everything showing up visually as being fully scanned from the moment you enter a system.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
There's definitely something odd about the way hotspot appear.

Sometimes they appear when you don't have a DSS installed, sometime they don't appear even if you do have one installed.

Firing more probes at a ring won't help.
Once you've probed a ring (fnar fnar) once, that's your lot.

Scoob was recently moaning about a similar issue and he seems to find that re-logging fixes it - although that doesn't explain why it's happening in the first place.
 

Sunyavadin

Sunyavadin
Stealthie said:
Scoob was recently moaning about a similar issue and he seems to find that re-logging fixes it - although that doesn't explain why it's happening in the first place.
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was gonna suggest that since it also seems to fix the issue of planets all having the fully scanned overlay when you've not probed them yet.
 

ithinkiam

ithinkiam
Wolf Starslayer said:
Yes didn't see the screen...as pico above says, do u have the required scanner to see them? otherwise no clue atm.
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Yep. All the required scanners are present and correct.

Stealthie said:
Scoob was recently moaning about a similar issue and he seems to find that re-logging fixes it - although that doesn't explain why it's happening in the first place.
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Yep. Done that. I was at this ring yesterday with the same problem.
 

Scoob

Scoob
Thing can go a little weird. For example, I returned to the game lately, fitted a DSS, scanned a ring system and mined just fine. I then returned later without a DSS scanner multiple times, saw the Hotspots shown as before and mined again. This suggested that the DSS was only needed for the initial identification of the hot spots. However, I returned another time and they were gone...and stayed gone until I fitted a DSS again.

Even very experienced players such as Down to Earth Astronomy say you only need the DSS for initial identification in their tutorial type videos. So, evidently a lot of us experienced this...and it actually makes a great deal of sense for it to work that way. I.e. you go out in your "Prospecting" ship, identifying good locations and later return in your dedicated miner. It sorted worked like that for me - over multiple game sessions - until it didn't lol.

Scoob.
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
It’s a bug. I went out to a ring in my home system that I mapped ages ago and I could lock on to the hotspots, but the glowing spots weren’t there. It was the same mining ship as always.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Bryan K said:
It’s a bug. I went out to a ring in my home system that I mapped ages ago and I could lock on to the hotspots, but the glowing spots weren’t there. It was the same mining ship as always.
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Just to add to this, if you look at your nav-HUD, the hotspots will (in my experience, at least) still be shown so you can target one and then it'll be "bracketed" in the cockpit-view, even though there's nothing actually there to be seen.

Least you can navigate to it that way, even if you can't see it. 😕
 

ithinkiam

ithinkiam
Stealthie said:
Just to add to this, if you look at your nav-HUD, the hotspots will (in my experience, at least) still be shown so you can target one and then it'll be "bracketed" in the cockpit-view, even though there's nothing actually there to be seen.

Least you can navigate to it that way, even if you can't see it. 😕
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Yes it is still possible to navigate to it. However, when trying to navigate to double painite hotspots you need to be able to see the overlap. You can guestimate it
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
ithinkiam said:
Yes it is still possible to navigate to it. However, when trying to navigate to double painite hotspots you need to be able to see the overlap. You can guestimate it
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Weird how it's suddenly all about mining and double hotspots. :unsure:

You can usually figure out which is a double hotspot just by looking at the distances in the nav-HUD as you fly toward the ring.
Two of the hotspots will be almost exactly the same distance away, and remain that way as you approach.
Those are the overlapping hotspots.

To figure out where the overlap is, target one hotspot in your nav-HUD, look where the brackets are in your cockpit view then target the other hotspot and repeat.
Once you know where each hotspot is, head for a point directly between them.

Yes, it's a PITA to have to do this rather than just looking for the big, daft, yellow blobs but it is viable if re-logging doesn't fix it.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Backelaer said:
Couldn't find the patience to read the entire topic. Then again, the post I quoted has it nailed. It's ridiculous but you need a dss even though you scanned a planet and its rings earlier. Go figure.
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Except that it doesn't.

Sometimes the hotspots just flat-out DON'T show up even if you have a DSS installed.
 

d8veh

d8veh
It's an annoying bug. Some ringed planets just won't show the hotspots. They also disappear if you jump out of the hotspot and try to jump back in. You can see them when you first arrive at the rings, but not when you jump out unless you leave the system and come back again. I can't say that's true for all hotspots, but is for the one I mine at.
 

CAPT. Ho Chi Minge

CAPT. Ho Chi Minge
Noticed this also and think i had to fire another surface scanner into the ring to have them show , only ever seen it once though and ive been using the same ring for mining.

I would have guessed combat mode rather than analysis but i noticed the blue outline of analysis mode in your picture.
 
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