I have zero interest flying out there period, seems a bit cliquish to me.
Why are all the G5 Engineering in Colonia?
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Add to that
G5: Life Support
G5: Refinery
G5: Fuel Scoop
G5: Auto Field-Maintenance Unit
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Then don't.
They got tired of all the whining in the bubble.
And the clique has spoken
Is there any point in G5ing those things? I've never engineered any of them even to G1, let alone higher.
Just the life support and SCBs are useful for me. The rest are irrelevant.
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The Colonia Engineers have not always offered high grade modifications - the available level of modifications increased over time as modifications were carried out by players. There was a significant player effort to increase the grades offered, which started a little over five years ago:
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PSA: Operation Montgomery Scott - Improving the Colonia Engineers!
You know what’s super sweet about Colonia? Four Engineers with all the blueprints you could ever want within a 40 light year radius. Eat that, Bubble Babies! But wait Phisto, you crazy handsome old fool! Colonia doesn’t have the same quality of blueprints as the Bubble does! Well, how about...
What did you expect as a reply to an entitled post? "Oh please, sir, do it, we made all the effort just for you!". No. It's there. Take it or leave it.
Sure - but don't just look at the grade sticker, look at the actual benefits here.
G5: Refinery, Fuel Scoop, AFMU.
- these modules only have a single blueprint (Shielded) which increases integrity
- these modules function perfectly fine at 1% integrity so a reboot/repair will bring them back online in an emergency if they do somehow get destroyed
- when was the last time you ever heard of anyone losing any of those modules and it being important in the context of the state of the rest of their ship?
G5: Life Support
- keeping a few synthesis charges is far cheaper on materials than getting the reinforced/shielded blueprints to G5 (and as with the above three, a reboot/repair brings them back online anyway)
- life support is again rarely a module which takes critical damage in the first place (the canopy certainly can, though, and this blueprint won't help with that)
- for lightweight, the difference in the worst case (an Orca has the worst ratio between FSD size and LS size) between G4 and G5 Lightweight Life Support is 1.6t on a ship with a total mass of around 400t ... or 0.15 LY jump range.
- for the Mandalay the difference is just 0.07 LY (and all other common exploration ships are less weight-sensitive)
- anyone who finds that sort of tiny difference in jump range at all noticeable isn't going to have trouble travelling to Colonia
G4: SCB
- compared with the G3, rapid charge gets you another 0.5 seconds taken off your spin-up time (at the cost of slightly less actual reinforcement). This one is just about theoretically useful, if you're in a PvP fight with someone who has Feedback Cascade Rails and time-on-target abilities which are very good but not perfect so that half-second difference at least sometimes matters (they can't hit you in 3 seconds but can in 3.5).
- compared with the G3, specialised gets you an extra 2% shield reinforcement and an unimportant thermal load reduction. In the best case - an 8B SCB - this gives you an extra 132 shield MJ on SCBs giving out more than 6000 MJ on top of a base shield of likely similar size. That again, might be important if you're in a PvP fight versus someone who extremely closely matches you in skill but doesn't have any Feedback Cascade Rails ... but is going to be irrelevant in any other case.
These are niche (often to the point of actual uselessness) blueprints, and having to think "is it actually worth going 22000 LY" might save you some unnecessary material costs.
You really, really don't have a clue of what you're talking about.
Yeah, i hear with SCBs you can get an extra charge or something, although i never use them.
nope, no extra charge...
I don't see the point of this post ?
You don't have to engineer if you dont want?
If you want that engineering well then I'm afraid you have to go to colonia.
Fdev have placed restrictions on many engineers so that you have to do stuff rares, mining, hacking etc this is just another way for those folk who wish to make the effort to go to colonia and give them something extra for the distance .
There are now regular FC to colonia so you don't even have to jump . Load your ship up and wake up in colonia.
However how you play the game is totally up to you and doesn't affect me or anyone else .
And you can still play the game if you choose not to go to colonia .
You don't have to engineer if you dont want?
If you want that engineering well then I'm afraid you have to go to colonia.
Fdev have placed restrictions on many engineers so that you have to do stuff rares, mining, hacking etc this is just another way for those folk who wish to make the effort to go to colonia and give them something extra for the distance .
There are now regular FC to colonia so you don't even have to jump . Load your ship up and wake up in colonia.
However how you play the game is totally up to you and doesn't affect me or anyone else .
And you can still play the game if you choose not to go to colonia .
The only reason to engineer 3 of those is for exploration, like say jumping 22,000 ly to Colonia.
Currently have an alt on one of the regular FC taxis to Colonia. I might now engineer some modules when I get there, just because I can.
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G3 lightweight is available in the bubble*
Hadn’t even noticed it could be engineered.
Only integrity available so why bother*
Another module that I use rarely enough that I wasn’t aware it could be engineered.
SCBs are another module I don’t bother with but like all the others here I am sure that they can be engineered to a useful degree of benefit if not to the point of diminishing returns represented by G5.
*See @Ian Doncaster post above for a more complete and factual comment.
As to why these few items are G5 at Colonia it is because the commanders there put in the effort as was done later on to train up Chloe over in the WitchHead.