Why are culinary and cocktail recipes so hard to get?

DjVortex

DjVortex
I am trying to unlock that one engineer that needs selling culinary and cocktail recipes in Colonia. Problem is, I can't find a single one. Not one.

I am going to those two moons in SOL... eh, LOS where there are the two settlements where supposedly you get those recipes easily. I have checked the data ports about a hundred times (doing the loop of check the data ports, jump to supercruise and come back, rinse and repeat). I haven't seen a single recipe in any of them even once.

Am I doing something wrong?

And to be 100% certain, we are talking about these?

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Carbon Slide

Carbon Slide
That’s the right type of Data-Port in your picture, you can pick up culinary and cocktail recipes from Data-Ports In Tourism type settlements (unsure about other types). The Tourism settlements are (were) the easiest to farm Power-Play Data too, so I’ve visited a good amount of these in the bubble and noticed they sometimes carry culinary and cocktail recipes – any settlement size will do but there is a random factor to it. Sometimes you will not find any culinary and cocktail recipes, sometimes multiple on one run.

If the settlement is also anarchy (which I recomment) you can kill without getting a fine/bounty or raise notoriety, I’ve always 1st disabled the alarm. Once every data port has been checked, you can fly into orbit and glide back to the very same tourism settlement which will then have been reset (new data on the ports) as you already know.

I did pick up my recipes in Colonia for the engineer, but as far as I recall I picked them up from an anarchy tourism settlement (the settlement has to be anarchy to bypass getting a bounty – not the system), can’t remember if I tried those 2 moons in LOS.

Back in the bubble you can also find some recipes for sale on FC’s but that method is probably ultra rare in Colonia (check INARA).

Important: when you have all your recipes, sell them in the Colonia System, not just the Colonia region ;).
 

geoffrey.hdt

geoffrey.hdt
Go to a Tourism settlement, although NOT the one with TWO large pads.
Download data from all ports, you will get cocktail, culinary recipes, as well as plenty of cat medias.
(Optional) Kill everybody on your way, embrace notoriety 10, join Archon ;)

You could also search for some players Fleet Carriers selling some, but with the Power data disabled by FDev, not many go raid settlements anymore (do not even try the FCs with unknown docking access):
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DjVortex

DjVortex
geoffrey.hdt said:
I collect and put for sale at 5000% price every useful data I find. When I was intensively raiding settlements (for PowerPlay) I got close to a billion after a month.
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I'm almost ready to pay the premium, given that I still haven't found a single one.
 

Ned Flandalorian

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They're rare because of an over-reliance on RNG as a substitute for engaging gameplay.
A proper rework of engineering wouldn't have just boosted mission reward amounts but rather given us the option to select what we wanted to be rewarded with instead of them being randomly generated. Same goes for the powerplay care packages that have shown to be practically worthless when you make enough progression.
 

PilotB

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Sites tend to be good or bad for certain materials. If you've done a couple of laps with nothing it's time to go find a different site. The whole thing is an utter mess of RNG and some people will get them in 3 laps and others spend 100 hours at the same site. Hit it and if it's not paying out move on. Keep an eye out for mission rewards as you go.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
I didn't create the thread to complain about the game mechanics. I'm solely interested in getting those recipes, and any help or hints would be appreciated.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
You're doing the right thing by checking HAB ports for them, but if that particular base isn't giving them, there may well be some reason (maybe since the recommendation was made it's changed government type or state or something like that which makes it less likely to give that specific data type)

Some of the larger Extraction bases also have quite a few HAB ports (not just in the Habitat buildings, check the warehouse "STO" building as well) and there are a lot more Extraction bases than Tourism ones out in Colonia, so that's where I picked up most of my HAB data from in the end. Again, this was a couple of years ago, don't know if they're still good for it, but it might be worth a try if the ones in Los aren't working for you.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Ian Doncaster said:
You're doing the right thing by checking HAB ports for them, but if that particular base isn't giving them, there may well be some reason (maybe since the recommendation was made it's changed government type or state or something like that which makes it less likely to give that specific data type)

Some of the larger Extraction bases also have quite a few HAB ports (not just in the Habitat buildings, check the warehouse "STO" building as well) and there are a lot more Extraction bases than Tourism ones out in Colonia, so that's where I picked up most of my HAB data from in the end. Again, this was a couple of years ago, don't know if they're still good for it, but it might be worth a try if the ones in Los aren't working for you.
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Indeed, its more about the number of HAB data ports than anything else, so a large non-tourism settlement can have quite a lot of those data ports, more perhaps than a small tourism settlement.
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
Agony_Aunt said:
Indeed, its more about the number of HAB data ports than anything else, so a large non-tourism settlement can have quite a lot of those data ports, more perhaps than a small tourism settlement.
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not just that, but in extraction settlements the HAB ports tend not to be in restricted areas, and the recipe/entertainment data materials tend to be legal to download so at worst you'll have to tailgate into a level 1 door to get into the warehouse.
 

Felix DiCestria

Felix DiCestria
geoffrey.hdt said:
Any reasons you don't sync your account/FC with Inara?
I collect and put for sale at 5000% price every useful data I find. When I was intensively raiding settlements (for PowerPlay) I got close to a billion after a month.
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I have no interest in 'being on Inara'. I have billions, when I sell stuff it's at the same rate as I would get from a bartender.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
It's actually quite fun to go through these suit/weapon upgrades and engineer unlocks, as they entail quite some gameplay that I had never played before, or even knew existed. Also stumbled into a surface port type that I had never seen before:

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A couple of questions:
  • Apparently there's no way to pin suit/weapon engineerings, like can be done with ship modules?
  • I saw no option to remove or replace an existing modification slot. Does that mean that once you have added such a modification you are stuck with it, even if you would want to later replace it with something else?
 

geoffrey.hdt

geoffrey.hdt
DjVortex said:
It's actually quite fun to go through these suit/weapon upgrades and engineer unlocks, as they entail quite some gameplay that I had never played before, or even knew existed. Also stumbled into a surface port type that I had never seen before:

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A couple of questions:
  • Apparently there's no way to pin suit/weapon engineerings, like can be done with ship modules?
  • I saw no option to remove or replace an existing modification slot. Does that mean that once you have added such a modification you are stuck with it, even if you would want to later replace it with something else?
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Correct.
Correct, so be very careful what and how you engineer it. there is no way back.

If your goal is to be PvP capable, check this: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/on-foot-pvp-loadouts.636956/
 
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