Why DBX over the dolphin ?

VirtueXOI

VirtueXOI
For exploration purpose ( mid / deep space exploration)
Dont get me wrong , DBX is my love in this game , but recently i outfitted a dolphin , and .. 5 ly less (with my build) , but way more internal and stay cold anytime for about the same size / type of ship.
Edit : Forgot better planetary landing for dolphin , thx @Chaparral .
Edit 2 : Also forgot : dolphin can jump while scooping .....

What do you explorers thinks ?
 
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Chaparral

Chaparral
I get greater range in my dbx, but I do prefer my dolphin for rep grinding, HGSS farming, and planetary landing (it's just so high up off of the ground).
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Since Kenneth convinced fdev to break the dolphin heat mechanics it's not sensible to compare it to anything else.

What's your dolphin jump range? I never got one close to my dbx...

Edit: Hmm, theorycrafting similar builds on coriolis I get an extra 10Ly from the DBX - a size 5 GFSD Booster does help the dolph, though I think I'd still go with a size 4 to get the bigger size 5 fuel scoop - especially as the dolph can now scoop & charge.
 
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Morbad

Morbad
DBX has superior firepower. Even in his capacity as an explorer, my CMDR cannot be certain that he'll never be confronted by hostility; if possible, he'd like to be able to respond in kind.
 

avow555

avow555
VirtueXOI said:
For exploration purpose ( mid / deep space exploration)
Dont get me wrong , DBX is my love in this game , but recently i outfitted a dolphin , and .. 5 ly less (with my build) , but way more internal and stay cold anytime for about the same size / type of ship.
Edit : Forgot better planetary landing for dolphin , thx @Chaparral .
Edit 2 : Also forgot : dolphin can jump while scooping .....

What do you explorers thinks ?
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It's a great Explorer I have one kitted out for the big wander.
Also have an Explorer Courier along with the other usual exploration faves, no 'Conda though, that's a wrong ship...!
 

Gnauty

Gnauty
I’m going out on one of the DSSA expeditions and have decided to try both a Dolphin and Courier for short- and mid-range exploration trips from the FC. Just finished a practice exercise with my expedition wing to scan every system and ring within a 50ly x 50ly x 100ly box. Took the Dolphin and absolutely loved the ship. +1
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
The DBX never did appeal to me mainly because with a class 5 fuel tank I could only install up to a class 4 fuel scoop. That makes for long refueling times. The Dolphin is nice but exploring I went with an Orca versus a Dolphin which is faster, jumps farther and holds a lot more. Then I installed a class 6 fuel scoop for it's class 5 fuel tank. Fast refuel times especially when doing 400+ jumps.

As for the Dophin I made it a dedicated planetary material collector and especially for High Grade Emissions in USS. Of course it is just for the bubble but a lot of fun to fly!

Orca in Colona
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Here's my Orca build for your consideration versus the DBX or Dolphin.

3 beam lasers not needed but feel good having them.
Class 5 shield generator for landing on high-G planets.
Heat sinks that I have never used. Still just in case...
Supercruise assist for automatically orbiting a planet (love that).
1 SRV as if I get stuck just logout/login to Non-Horizons to get it back.
Docking computer in case I forget how being in the black for months.

54LY jump is plenty for me. If max jump range is desired a stripped down Orca can easily hit 65LY+ with high limitations on power, thrusters, shields, distributor and sensors. Is it worth it? To each his own desires...

With game experience and good pilot skills the Orca for me is a nice comfortable explorer with no equipment limitations. New to exploring? Try an A-rated low/non-engineered DBX, Dolphin and Orca exploring outside the bubble say up to the 5000LY range to complete the engineering requirement for Professor Palin. Play with all the equipment to be proficient using them. Gain experience on newtron stars (might need a heat sink) and other dangers especially if your ship is destroyed. Less painful versus 60,000LY in the black and quit the game in frustration as some have. Then build your explorer ship knowing exactly what you want and appreciate having it in deep space. The galaxy will still be there when you have the needed skills and ship to explore it.

Meanwhile if serious about technically exploring the galaxy Frontier created you'll appreciate this Advanced Navigation video. Frontier is serious about the science.

Regards
 
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Gnauty

Gnauty
Not sure the Dolphin would be my first choice for a really long trip into the black - say DW3 - but it’s going to be great working within around 10k ly of the DSSA FC.
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
Hooplah said:
The DBX never did appeal to me mainly because with a class 5 fuel tank I could only install up to a class 4 fuel scoop.
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I've done over 200 kylies in DBX and it's not really an issue any more. Current FSS functionality creates a whole lot of time for scooping. Unless you buckyball and not scan at all, there should be no need to really WAIT for the scooping process to complete.

One more thing has just come into my mind: the sounds of the Dolphin are great! :)
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
LifesAJourney said:
I've done over 200 kylies in DBX and it's not really an issue any more. Current FSS functionality creates a whole lot of time for scooping. Unless you buckyball and not scan at all, there should be no need to really WAIT for the scooping process to complete....
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True when having fun with the FSS. Some players actually explore, others want to get from A to B and others do both. One could say a serious explorer doesn't need a large fuel scoop. I would say serious explorers with a large fuel scoop have an advantage when needed. For example jumping into systems that have nothing to scan, getting to a specific system (black hole), getting antsy in deep space and want to dock somewhere.

A great deal of time is spent playing ED. Trimming that time down a little would actually make exploring more efficient.

"Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the star ship [insert your ship name here].
It's six-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations.
To boldly go where no player has gone before! "
 

Dr. Nagi

Dr. Nagi
LifesAJourney said:
Unless you buckyball and not scan at all, there should be no need to really WAIT for the scooping process to complete.
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That just becomes necessary to me every now and then, due to expedition (or other community event) schedules and me not always being in the mood for playing elite. And when I do end up in that situation, a slow scoop is really, really painful.
 

Rudi Raumkraut

Rudi Raumkraut
Same here.
I can't stand a scoop which isn't at least even with the FSDs class, better one class higher.
This may change now with a carrier as I'll have different exploration ships for different tasks with me.
Funnily three from four are Saud Kruger ships ;)
 
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