Why got the upgraded resource sites nerfed down again?? boring as

[Saliddry]

Elite Dangerous moves toward beeing the most boring ever!!!! they upgeaded the resource sites for combat in 1.1 or 1.2 and now this game is back to trading simulation all the ya get in there are eagles sidewinders and vipers... maybe some daimonback lst 3 days i tryed COMBAT ..2-3 hours a day and all i got where 2 good spwans with clippers or dropships with around 60-100k per ship but there respawn took up to 4 minuts

and after 30-40 minuts all you could see was green .........

+ most of the time the realy big ships that are wanted dont belong to independant or pirat faction but to the major faction so your ruining your standing if ya want a reasonable big bounty...!!!!


OH YEAH if ya want to fight you can go to combat zones... yeah and waste my time with laughable pennys as reward?


where is the funn in this game? at least i want to see solo flying bounty anacondas with 120k+ rewards again
but the systemspace seems to be empty too all ya see are wings of eagles or sidewinders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


didnt start elite yesterday and i doubt i will start it this evening cause it makes my angry wasting my time searching around 30 minuts make boom boom for 5-10 minuts and than search again!!!

i had a long break ... before or short after 1.2 till 5 days ago and im allready pi...... of this game again!!!!!

 

[Saliddry]

combat seems to have changed too i wanted to add ... clippers and go go boom before the powerplant is down and thats while im shooting them from top down or below so the core can be hit ....

 

[Anuranium]

Want combat with big ships? Conflict zones.
Want money? Trade

Really, you don't making any sense. You want to fight big ships, but they have to have big bounties in order for you to have fun. How about the thrill in combat in itself regardless of credits earned? How about going into strong signal sources? You might get 3 anaconda's there with big fat bounties on them. If you go looking for bulletin-board missions, you might even get more.

If you basically just want to farm credit, RES's are still the way to go. You must however reset the instance a couple of times in order for the big ships to spawn though.

Good luck.

 

[LeetNoob]

Want combat with big ships? Conflict zones.
Want money? Trade

Good luck.

Your answers seems to imply that people should not be able to make reasonable money through combat, and if you want to make reasonable money, it should only be through trade.
This of course is stupid and something the Dev's promised would not be the case.

 

[Gray Lensman]

You've been unlucky. I spent 2 hours last night in a RES being presented with Deadly/Dangerous Pythons, Dropships, Clippers and Cobras. I earned 3.5 million credits. I actually WANTED smaller ships because I'm after kills not credits.
I've never seen a single wanted Anaconda at a RES since 1.3 came in and only one Elite pilot (Cobra).

 

[Haleks]

OH YEAH if ya want to fight you can go to combat zones... yeah and waste my time with laughable pennys as reward?

Seriously?

 

[Anuranium]

Your answers seems to imply that people should not be able to make reasonable money through combat, and if you want to make reasonable money, it should only be through trade.
This of course is stupid and something the Dev's promised would not be the case.

It was not my intention to state that combat should not make reasonable money. That being said, having huge bounty ships lining up to be shot down by you with little to no effort is just silly IMO. I really love that with 1,3 missions go more towards actually hunting down pirates you find, wether it is in SC, a USS/SSS, a RES or just outside the station. Some of the high tier missions give pretty good rewards (500k-1mill) for doing a simple mission that only require you to kill a specified amount of ships, no matter the ship type. If this is not viable as a good income from combat, then really, something is very wrong.

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

Not sure how much time you put into this game after your "breaks" but I don't think you really understand the mechanics. If the RES sites are bad you have to reset the instance. It's annoying and immersion breaking but it's the way it's been for a while. Also if you think CZ's are "pennys" (P.S. its 'pennies' but that's okay) then you clearly haven't been in a CZ anytime lately. I make most of my money from CZ's actually. A lot better than RES.

And boohoo your standing. You can't have everything. Take your money for bounty hunting or suck some XYZ private parts. Can't do it all without stepping on some toes.

It's unfortunate you're not having fun but maybe you are approaching it with the wrong perspective. Are you only in it for the fake "money"? What happens when you get all the money and can afford an A-rated Anaconda? Are you going to quit then? You need to give yourself some goals. Personally, money means very little in the game, at least to me.

Edit: Also the CAPS on your posts doesn't help your arguments at all. I'm starting to think you have had too much cocaine and just need a hug. <3

 

[LeetNoob]

It was not my intention to state that combat should not make reasonable money. That being said, having huge bounty ships lining up to be shot down by you with little to no effort is just silly IMO. I really love that with 1,3 missions go more towards actually hunting down pirates you find, wether it is in SC, a USS/SSS, a RES or just outside the station. Some of the high tier missions give pretty good rewards (500k-1mill) for doing a simple mission that only require you to kill a specified amount of ships, no matter the ship type. If this is not viable as a good income from combat, then really, something is very wrong.

I agree with that, there should not be endless streams of large ships, but also not endless streams of small ships. The whole way the instancing works is stupid. Every next ship should be random.

The BB missions don’t make sense either.

Faction : Go kill 7 pirates in that system
Me: What about killing pirates in this system?
Faction : No good
Me: What about killing more than 7 pirates?
Faction : No use to us.
Me: So if I see any more pirates there just leave them?
Faction : Yes
Me: Your rival faction have already asked me to go kill 9 pirates over there.
Faction : That’s fine, good for them
Me: Should I kill 7 more for you guys?
Faction: Nope, we’ll count it as part of the 9 you do for them.

 

[Luniticisi]

Although I made a huge sum of credits when the RES zones were filled with high paying wanted NPC's, at the time I thought that it was always going to get (hate the word) 'Nerfed' as it was seriously over the top.
It was FAR too easy to collect credits I once made 6mil in just under an hour .. I only left the RES i was in (it was still spawning high end ships) as I got bored.

I have not played since 1.3 but personally I think that reducing the frequency of those spawns was the right thing to do .. it was FAR to easy.

But that's just me

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

Killing more than 7 pirates is good for you because you get extra bounty.

If you do missions for a rival faction don't expect the primary factions influence to go up.

Am I not understanding what you're complaining about?

 

[Saliddry]

It was not my intention to state that combat should not make reasonable money. That being said, having huge bounty ships lining up to be shot down by you with little to no effort is just silly IMO. I really love that with 1,3 missions go more towards actually hunting down pirates you find, wether it is in SC, a USS/SSS, a RES or just outside the station. Some of the high tier missions give pretty good rewards (500k-1mill) for doing a simple mission that only require you to kill a specified amount of ships, no matter the ship type. If this is not viable as a good income from combat, then really, something is very wrong.

you know the good mission demand founder or elite....i have acess to founder world since the game started but it seems to ignore it for this missions

i dont now how many people have made it to elite yet.. maybe some who played constantly since 1.0 version started

im currently at master in combat broker in trading and ranger in exploration

so mission i get are mostly ~120k sometimes 200k but that are not always pirats.... some demand freighters or bounty hunters

and the kill mission for single targets are another problem since the new system... there not allways wanted i got 2 systems ruined for 1 week allready got bounty there for killing my mission targets

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13k? Are we playing the same game?
An annaconda will give 100k in CZ and 130k in RES.
Sure they're harder to kill, but there's plenty of them and you don't loose time finding them.

Yesterday I had ~2.5 millions; two hours later in a CZ with my courier, I was 7millions rich.

havent testet cmbat zones since im back .. but wachting youtube videos that are 1-3 weeks old i have seens poeple going there and getting 13-20k for killing ships.. pythons clippers dropships ...noone got nearly 100k for a single kill

 

[Agony_Aunt]

this game is moving more towards "elite: the trading sim" AGAIN

Why? I don't trade. I did a little bit to see what it was about and was bored to tears by it. I do combat, mining, exploration, missions... whatever... just not trading.

Oh, wait, you are annoyed because you can't earn millions upon millions per hour? LOL. Most profressions can't make millions per hour. Combat zones are decent, a million or more an hour is possible. RES hunting (if you get lucky with spawns) can give you over a million an hour. Mining, about a million an hour if you get lucky with the rocks... more if you have an Anaconda i suppose. Exploring, hard to estimate, but a million per hour is probably not a bad estimate unless you are farming neutron stars (but that's boring). Smuggling can apparently get you millions per hour, although that's a kind of trading.

Its the poor pirates who seem to come off worst out of it. Best i've managed is about 500k in an hour, but that was just pure luck i think on my part.

 

[LeetNoob]

Killing more than 7 pirates is good for you because you get extra bounty.

If you do missions for a rival faction don't expect the primary factions influence to go up.

Am I not understanding what you're complaining about?

My point is the missions don't really make sense. Kill X amount of Y in Z. Arbitrary numbers.
A lot less sense that pirate ships showing up to RES sites.

 

[Ivan Shevchenko]

Two words: Power Play

Might not sound interesting, but when you make 5 million a week from interdicting things, your mood changes instantly.

..or atleast if it's money you're after.

 

[h347h]

I am currently making anywhere from 15 to 30 million in conflict zones as a rank 5 Hudson supporter. Granted I am in a fully kitted out conda with loads of shield cell banks and what not, but combat at least for some of us I comparable to trading at the moment. However with the power plant changes coming in 1.4 the profit per hour is going to take a hit. Strong Signal Source bounty hunting is also profitable if you pick up a 1-2 mill elite combat rank elite(granted not every one is elite combat rank) mission from a bulletin board for the system you are going to hunt in. Some NPC condas give upwards to a million a kill with the Hudson rank 5 bonus. Might kill 3 of those in one SSS alone. The issue is climbing the ladder to earn the profits now. Combat seems like it scales better than it used to granted it scales MUCH better if you are a Hudson follower.

 

[LeetNoob]

I am currently making anywhere from 15 to 30 million in conflict zones as a rank 5 Hudson supporter. Granted I am in a fully kitted out conda with loads of shield cell banks and what not, but combat at least for some of us I comparable to trading at the moment. However with the power plant changes coming in 1.4 the profit per hour is going to take a hit. Strong Signal Source bounty hunting is also profitable if you pick up a 1-2 mill elite combat rank elite(granted not every one is elite combat rank) mission from a bulletin board for the system you are going to hunt in. Some NPC condas give upwards to a million a kill with the Hudson rank 5 bonus. Might kill 3 of those in one SSS alone. The issue is climbing the ladder to earn the profits now. Combat seems like it scales better than it used to granted it scales MUCH better if you are a Hudson follower.

Power plant changes?

Edit: Nevermind

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2548739#post2548739

 

[Haleks]

What the heck happened to my second post???

13k? Are we playing the same game?
An annaconda will give 100k in CZ and 130k in RES.
Sure they're harder to kill, but there's plenty of them and you don't loose time finding them.

Yesterday I had ~2.5 millions; two hours later in a CZ with my courier, I was 7millions rich.

Was it removed?:S
Censors need to chill out...

 

[Vasious]

Every week
Poster A: RES Zones are nerfed, I haven't made millions, game ruined
Poster B: Odd as last night I made millions in RES Zone

With the benefit of the doubt that neither statement is false

Is this just a long list threads about sampling errors

Yesterday it rained, from that I conclude it will always rain and never be sunny again.

 

[SledgeFox]

I agree with that, there should not be endless streams of large ships, but also not endless streams of small ships. The whole way the instancing works is stupid. Every next ship should be random.

Exactly this! It can't be so hard to make the spawns random. I hate to log out and back in just to get anything better than Sidewinders in a HIGH intensity RES. High intensity RES should be a dangerous place full of pirates and full of good mining grounds. But as it is now, it's plain boring most of the time. Time to take another break for a week.