Why JWE3?

[Fuzzy2426]

I mean... releasing another park builder/simulator to promote the next film, when JWE2 has pretty much everything there is? Why not just use a new genre for the next film promo game? And, besides, couldn't JWE3 just be an update for JWE2?

I'm not really complaining (Well, maybe a bit), but I don't see another park builder being much better or different than JWE2, and I just think the franchise could use more variety in its games.

Also, heard a rumor that "JWE3" might not be a JWE game but a new type of JW game, so I'm hoping that's true for the moment. Probably not, but still.

 

[Skawt]

Definitely understand the fatigue with park building Jurassic games. I wouldn't mind seeing a different one.

For all I've complained to Frontier about various things here and there, I do recognize that Frontier is VERY GOOD at management simulation and building games. They got this genre figured out.

So if they're going to give me another JWE, I'm absolutely excited for it. It's only going to be better.

 

[gabeluna27]

I mean... releasing another park builder/simulator to promote the next film, when JWE2 has pretty much everything there is? Why not just use a new genre for the next film promo game? And, besides, couldn't JWE3 just be an update for JWE2?

I'm not really complaining (Well, maybe a bit), but I don't see another park builder being much better or different than JWE2, and I just think the franchise could use more variety in its games.

Also, heard a rumor that "JWE3" might not be a JWE game but a new type of JW game, so I'm hoping that's true for the moment. Probably not, but still.

This new Jurassic World game is a creative management simulation (CMS ) game, under the collaborative relationship between Frontier and Universal.

The actual report: https://otp.tools.investis.com/clie...regulatory-story.aspx?cid=1725&newsid=1818095

While its the words imply to be a continuation of the JWE franchise, there’s no actual way of knowing if this will be a full fledge sequel to Jurassic World Evolution 2 (Jurassic World Evolution 3/JWE3) or a stand alone/spinoff game of that said Jurassic game franchise.

They didn’t make both games with the sole intent of having a dino zoo building game or, as I forgot to mention elsewhere here, just to tie in with a movie (the former game being true to that, but unknown for the second). They didn’t even make JWE2 with the sole purpose of adding new features and content either. They have a wider scope of approach when doing these things like, for JWE2 for example, storytelling opportunities in a sequel format with Universal’s collaboration as confirmed by the game’s director on Newsweek.

Therefore, what we should all ask ourselves is “How” are they executing this next Jurassic CMS game as?

 

[South Tyrant]

I mean... releasing another park builder/simulator to promote the next film, when JWE2 has pretty much everything there is? Why not just use a new genre for the next film promo game? And, besides, couldn't JWE3 just be an update for JWE2?

I'm not really complaining (Well, maybe a bit), but I don't see another park builder being much better or different than JWE2, and I just think the franchise could use more variety in its games.

Also, heard a rumor that "JWE3" might not be a JWE game but a new type of JW game, so I'm hoping that's true for the moment. Probably not, but still.

Just releasing new species is boring, JWE need a full overhaul regarding dinosaur mechanics and park management. Just free small updates and species packs can´t do this

 

[gianfranco cembran]

Il semplice rilascio di nuove specie è noioso, JWE ha bisogno di una revisione completa per quanto riguarda la meccanica dei dinosauri e la gestione del parco. Solo piccoli aggiornamenti gratuiti e pacchetti di specie non possono farlo

I agree! Give me one zoo simulator similar of Preistoric Kindom, Zoo Tyccon Remake o Operation Genesis.

 

[Jura Arena]

I'm looking forward to jwe3, as the limitations of the old consoles will no longer apply.
If they then implement a sensible breeding system, it is a 100% reason for me to buy.

 

[Jochewi]

I mean... releasing another park builder/simulator to promote the next film, when JWE2 has pretty much everything there is? Why not just use a new genre for the next film promo game? And, besides, couldn't JWE3 just be an update for JWE2?

I'm not really complaining (Well, maybe a bit), but I don't see another park builder being much better or different than JWE2, and I just think the franchise could use more variety in its games.

Also, heard a rumor that "JWE3" might not be a JWE game but a new type of JW game, so I'm hoping that's true for the moment. Probably not, but still.

I asked myself the same question when I heard the news. Unless they intend to make significant improvements, there's no point in doing so... Hey, I understand the financial opportunity with the movie... But I'm not going to buy Jurassic World Evolution 2 3 just because a movie comes out that's probably going to be further away from , if possible, from the original work of Michael Crichton.

 

[Fossa]

Just releasing new species is boring, JWE need a full overhaul regarding dinosaur mechanics and park management. Just free small updates and species packs can´t do this

Yeah, but most of you peeps want JWE3 to have ALL species currently in the game from the start, then this doesn't make sense, as the grapchics won't change at all with so many dinosaurs, so the graphics stay the same but they just add options? Those same options can be released in DLC for JWE2 as well, seeing the graphics won't CHANGE at all for so many dinosaurs that mostly stay the same.

That's why I don't want EVERY JWE2 dinosaur to pull over to JWE3, then the graphics and social behavior won't change and we just end up with JWE2.5, NOT JWE3 at all.

 

[Boxphy]

Yeah, but most of you peeps want JWE3 to have ALL species currently in the game from the start, then this doesn't make sense, as the grapchics won't change at all with so many dinosaurs, so the graphics stay the same but they just add options? Those same options can be released in DLC for JWE2 as well, seeing the graphics won't CHANGE at all for so many dinosaurs that mostly stay the same.

That's why I don't want EVERY JWE2 dinosaur to pull over to JWE3, then the graphics and social behavior won't change and we just end up with JWE2.5, NOT JWE3 at all.

Wdym by graphics? Are you talking about textures, shadows, foliage? Can give some more clarification? Anyways, JWE3 would be stylistically in line with the other games. The graphics are going to improve for JWE3 presumably by not being held back from 11 year old hardware i.e. (Xbox One & PS4). The graphics are going to improve from benefiting by current generation hardware without being held back by console. Also for social behaviors, are you talking about social animations or the mechanical side of the system? Again need some clarification on this.
I don't think the animals themselves need any major improvements outside of locomotion changes. Any social behavior changes would be trivial at best and wouldn't address the fundmentiful problems with JWE at its core.

 

[Fossa]

I just don’t want Jurassic World Evolution 2.5, I want something better.

This means more options, better graphics in multiple ways, more animations, better aerial cages and lagoons, more non-dinosaurs.

But also it means, some useless dinosaurs being cut, aeaeaeaeaergouselessmimus, NOdosaurus and two small Asian stegosaurus species come to mind. They should be replaced later (in expansions) by usefull species like Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, Heterodontosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Bajadasaurus, Shantungosaurus, Megaraptor, Masiakasaurus, and a lot of non-dinosaurs, but not mammals...

But the starting number of dinosaurs should not be higher than 80

No hybrids, spare for the two hybrids from the movies, while I don’t care for such creatures, the movies should be all there.

 

[gianfranco cembran]

I just don’t want Jurassic World Evolution 2.5, I want something better.

This means more options, better graphics in multiple ways, more animations, better aerial cages and lagoons, more non-dinosaurs.

But also it means, some useless dinosaurs being cut, aeaeaeaeaergouselessmimus, NOdosaurus and two small Asian stegosaurus species come to mind. They should be replaced later (in expansions) by usefull species like Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, Heterodontosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Bajadasaurus, Shantungosaurus, Megaraptor, Masiakasaurus, and a lot of non-dinosaurs, but not mammals...

But the starting number of dinosaurs should not be higher than 80

No hybrids, spare for the two hybrids from the movies, while I don’t care for such creatures, the movies should be all there.

and Mussasaurus the prosauropod.

 

[Fossa]

and Mussasaurus the prosauropod.

Yes a lot more, plateosaurus is a must, tenontosaurus and camptosaurus all have their uniqueness, diabloceratops the small insectivore and smallest hadrosaur species from prehistoric planet, all better then those boring asian stegosaurs, want another stegosaur? How about Tuojingosaurus and Miragaia, at least they look unique. Those two other asian stegosaurs only cause Kentrosaurus to look less unique, and Kentrosaurus (being one of my top favorites) should not have any competition period. Both those boring redundant asian stegosaurs add nothing special to the table and don’t appear in any other book or movie, so CUT, if those are your favorite dinosaurs, find some better, more sense making favorites please.

 

[Boxphy]

I just don’t want Jurassic World Evolution 2.5, I want something better.

This means more options, better graphics in multiple ways, more animations, better aerial cages and lagoons, more non-dinosaurs.

But also it means, some useless dinosaurs being cut, aeaeaeaeaergouselessmimus, NOdosaurus and two small Asian stegosaurus species come to mind. They should be replaced later (in expansions) by usefull species like Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, Heterodontosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Bajadasaurus, Shantungosaurus, Megaraptor, Masiakasaurus, and a lot of non-dinosaurs, but not mammals...

But the starting number of dinosaurs should not be higher than 80

No hybrids, spare for the two hybrids from the movies, while I don’t care for such creatures, the movies should be all there.

More isn't always better. More animations/better graphics are just fluff and doesn't really address the core issues with the JWE series. The animations are fine as it is. I'd say some animations need tweaking at the bare minimum.

Again with the graphics thing? What kind of improvements for graphics? JWE3 would look similar to JWE2 and PZ since it's in the Cobra engine. Sure the textures would be improved and improved lighting but stylistically it wouldn't change.

The main problem at JWE at its core are the guest management system, terrain tools, customization, and general dinosaur management features. While I think getting new species is cool and all. Cutting species wouldn't do anything in the grand scheme of things. You're just basically replacing species more species. Essentially, new species won't add anything to the game of substance without huge mechanical that are needed. Also, making new species takes away from the dev time imo that could be afforded to other areas in the game e.g. improving aviaries, lagoons, pre-existing species/animations, guest management, staff.

 

[gianfranco cembran]

Sì, molto di più, il plateosaurus è un must, il tenontosaurus e il camptosaurus hanno tutti la loro unicità, il diabloceratops il piccolo insettivoro e la più piccola specie di adrosauro del pianeta preistorico, tutti meglio di quei noiosi stegosauri asiatici, vuoi un altro stegosauro? Che ne dici del Tuojingosaurus e del Miragaia, almeno sembrano unici. Quegli altri due stegosauri asiatici fanno solo sembrare il Kentrosaurus meno unico, e il Kentrosaurus (essendo uno dei miei preferiti in assoluto) non dovrebbe avere nessuna competizione, punto. Entrambi quei noiosi e ridondanti stegosauri asiatici non aggiungono nulla di speciale alla classifica e non compaiono in nessun altro libro o film, quindi CUT, se quelli sono i tuoi dinosauri preferiti, trovane altri migliori, più sensati, per favore.

Favorite stegosaurid as Wuerhosaurus.

 

[Fossa]

More isn't always better. More animations/better graphics are just fluff and doesn't really address the core issues with the JWE series. The animations are fine as it is. I'd say some animations need tweaking at the bare minimum.

Again with the graphics thing? What kind of improvements for graphics? JWE3 would look similar to JWE2 and PZ since it's in the Cobra engine. Sure the textures would be improved and improved lighting but stylistically it wouldn't change.

The main problem at JWE at its core are the guest management system, terrain tools, customization, and general dinosaur management features. While I think getting new species is cool and all. Cutting species wouldn't do anything in the grand scheme of things. You're just basically replacing species more species. Essentially, new species won't add anything to the game of substance without huge mechanical that are needed. Also, making new species takes away from the dev time imo that could be afforded to other areas in the game e.g. improving aviaries, lagoons, pre-existing species/animations, guest management, staff.

Sooooo, you never want to see new species again? And are fine with endless of boring Asian stegosaurs taking the spots of plateoaurus and Protoceratops... Ok.

 

[gianfranco cembran]

Protoceratops, Plateosaurus and Mussasaurus is interesting new dinosaurs for the paddoks adact.

 

[Mamenchi52]

Sooooo, you never want to see new species again? And are fine with endless of boring Asian stegosaurs taking the spots of plateoaurus and Protoceratops... Ok.

Nobody's saying they don't want new animals, we're simply saying that a new game would need to feature bigger improvements than just on the animals. We need deep water, terrain tools that don't need to be slopes, new viewing attractions, better hit boxes, better animal and economic management and more. Also, Frontier would add new animals to the base game and DLC regardless of whether or not the animals you want removed are actually removed. Removing animals would just diminish the roster and take away options from people who may actually want to use the Asian stegosaurs or other animals.

 

[Fossa]

There is an actual useful asian Stegosaur, ironically it isn’t in the game yet, Tuojiangosaurus, it is bigger than the two Kentrosaurus wannabees, and has unique plating, perfect for the representation of the Asian Stegosaurs, bore 1 and 2 which I always forget the names from are just in the game because they are easy copy paste materials. Can people that count these as their favorites (don’t lie and don’t pity vote) please stand up?

 

[Boxphy]

Chujinkosaurus or whaterver that Asian small stegosaur is dalled is a cancer to the game, never seen a worse choice for a dinosaur, plateosaurus and protoceratops are 1000.000 times more needed than that crap, If you feel otherwise, I feel only Pity.

Yeah, that's uh certainly an interesting take...

Sooooo, you never want to see new species again? And are fine with endless of boring Asian stegosaurs taking the spots of plateoaurus and Protoceratops... Ok.

I never said that I never wanted new species ever again. As @Mamenchi52 explained in a great way, what the general community wants is bigger improvements other than new species. For example, deep water, more customization options, more attractions, improved management features. On the topic of species, I don't think any species should get cut the JWE1 Asian Stegosaurs included. I still use Chungkingosaurus, Gigantspinosaurus, and Huayangosaurus for smaller exhibit builds/petting zoo aeras since they are a good small species to use. While I don't use as much as other species. I think diminishing the roster 2nd time would be taboo. I don't want a another repeat of the hybrid debacle that happened 4 months ago. Everyone has their favorites. I do kind some species need some TLC since the JWE1 models are almost 7 to 6 years old, but cutting species isn't really something that the community wants to see.

 

[Fossa]

I want nothing more than to cut some species from the game, they are destroying my perfect roster, and keep precious spots occupied from more worthy contenders.