Why, oh why, do ATC abbreviate ship ident's???

It's six characters, ferchrisakes!

Would it kill them to speak all 6 characters rather than just the first 3?

It just seems so silly to have the ATC communicate with ships via a supposedly unique ident' but then not use it sufficiently to properly identify a ship. [sad]
 
ATC Union Regulations. If they speak over 3 Characters they have to be paid at a higher rate.

Perhaps if they cut back on the random chatter, such as "maintain flight level 300" when I'm in the process of landing or telling me to "maintain current vector" when I've already overshot my pad, it'd be possible to get them to say the entire 6 characters of a ship ident without qualifying for the verbosity bonus? [mad]
 
ATC does that all the time. CF-WJP becomes "WJP" at my home airport.

"All the time"?

Surely you mean "on some occasions, where it's justifiable"?

Besides, at least they're smart enough to focus on the unique part of the ident.

If the ED ATC worked for the US Navy, they'd just be referring to every ship as "U.S.S."
 
To be honest, this really seems like it's meant to be a half step. Maybe they're working on text to speech so that the ATC say our full ship names eventually?

"All the time"?

Surely you mean "on some occasions, where it's justifiable"?

Besides, at least they're smart enough to focus on the unique part of the ident.

If the ED ATC worked for the US Navy, they'd just be referring to every ship as "U.S.S."

Or, rather "Yoo Dot Ess" [haha]
 
In GA flying in Canada ATC will shorten the callsign. Back in the day when I did military flying it was a real pain. CFC-1234, read out as either "CANFORCE 1234", or if it was outside NA then it became "Charlie Foxtrot Charlie 1234".
 
It's six characters, ferchrisakes!

Would it kill them to speak all 6 characters rather than just the first 3?

It just seems so silly to have the ATC communicate with ships via a supposedly unique ident' but then not use it sufficiently to properly identify a ship. [sad]

I once owned a Cessna. Tail number was N5252H. But to time constrained controllers at my home field, I was just "Cessna Five Two Hotel".

They all knew me as an ex-tactical driver, so I got my share of "personal experience" from them- watching me like a hawk, waiting for a chance to fill their quotas (just like cops). Only perfect landings escaped ridicule.

They forgot I knew the code to the tower door... :)
 

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I guess if all ATC requests and responses were on a Common Frequency (Players hearing the Audio of all ATC activities), keeping things abbreviated would be in order.

It's one of the key rules of aviation after all. C3 Comms... Clear, Crisp and Concise.

But since it's per-Player and isolated (like a Single-Frequency Approach), technically I guess they could read out more characters indeed and it wouldn't do any harm.
 
They could at least add the option to use either first 3 or last 3 characters. As it is it doesn't work with auto-generated ship IDs which are in the format AB-123 where AB is the same for all ships that I own.
 
It's amazing where on the internet North America's notoriety in the aviation industry for non-standard ICAO RT phraseology crops up.
 
It's amazing where on the internet North America's notoriety in the aviation industry for non-standard ICAO RT phraseology crops up.

Yuuuuup. :)

I guess if all ATC requests and responses were on a Common Frequency (Players hearing the Audio of all ATC activities), keeping things abbreviated would be in order.

It's one of the key rules of aviation after all. C3 Comms... Clear, Crisp and Concise.

But since it's per-Player and isolated (like a Single-Frequency Approach), technically I guess they could read out more characters indeed and it wouldn't do any harm.

Aviate. Navigate. Communicate. That Is The Order Of Things. :)
 
So when you change your ship name and ID ATC change too? I hadn't noticed, I thought they just always used the first three letters of the commander name all the time. I will listen next time I arrive at a station in a ship with changed ID/Name.
Still learning after all this time with ED.
 
So when you change your ship name and ID ATC change too? I hadn't noticed, I thought they just always used the first three letters of the commander name all the time. I will listen next time I arrive at a station in a ship with changed ID/Name.
Still learning after all this time with ED.

You can now select that in the options menu.
 
So when you change your ship name and ID ATC change too? I hadn't noticed, I thought they just always used the first three letters of the commander name all the time. I will listen next time I arrive at a station in a ship with changed ID/Name.
Still learning after all this time with ED.

I set it in the audio settings to be my Ship ID. Except all my Ship IDs are ISS-1, ISS-2 etc... Being called "Lakon India Sierra Sierra" was just as bad as being called "Lakon Juliet Echo Sierra", so I changed (at least on my Asp), my Ship ID to my allocated Distant Worlds 2 ID, which is 0T6-DW. So now, when flying my Asp, the ATC call me "Lakon Zero Tango Six".

Which sounds a lot better.

Still wish they'd use the entire string though.
 
I'd be happy if we could choose our ident from T2S, I would simply be 'Fox'. "Welcome to Magnus Gateway Commander Fox, please proceed to pad..."
 
I once owned a Cessna. Tail number was N5252H. But to time constrained controllers at my home field, I was just "Cessna Five Two Hotel".

They all knew me as an ex-tactical driver, so I got my share of "personal experience" from them- watching me like a hawk, waiting for a chance to fill their quotas (just like cops). Only perfect landings escaped ridicule.

They forgot I knew the code to the tower door... :)

Don't take this the wrong way Ralph, but...

...YOU WERE ALLOWED TO FLY A PLANE? :O:eek:
 
:rolleyes: The pseudo ATC messages are a really cool feature. By all means suggest improvements on the feedback part of the forum, but is it really such a big deal that we all have to join in a group whinge about it? Typical bloody crabs, always dripping about something... ;)

Reading out the last three characters would be an easy win, but it's counter intuitive and doesn't always happen in real life. Reading out the whole ident would detract from the ambiance that the message is trying to convey. I can see why FD did it the way they did.

Hopefully, in future, they'll call us by our Commander name once we reach a given level with the controlling faction- but until then I'm pretty happy with the feel of it.
 
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