I'm asking this question, because why a cabin is limited to the size 6, I'm ok for the luxury and first class because it's useless to have a bigger one, they want to be alone on their big cabins, but for the economic and business class, why it's limited to the size 6,b ecause actually on big planes, it's totally normal to have more than 32 passenger on the same cabin, so if we up the size to 7 and 8 we could transport 64 and 128 passengers in this cabins. And I don't see where is the problem to "store" 128 passengers on the same place. It's actually the case on big planes.
Why passengers cabins are limited to size 6
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My personal theory is, that all passenger modules are build by Saud Kruger and as syloom said, they build up to size 6. They have a monopoly and thus do not allow others to produce passenger modules similar to them preventing luxus passenger modules in ships other than theirs.
Because of this the Python is the best rescue ship (mass transport in tourist class) though I see (at least for us free pilots) no other opportunity with mass transport of passengers going the same way.
Because of this the Python is the best rescue ship (mass transport in tourist class) though I see (at least for us free pilots) no other opportunity with mass transport of passengers going the same way.
Yeah, I din't saw the things like this, but one more fact, why the beluga (the biggest ship of the game) have a very little storage size, because 4 slot size 6 is veyr small versus the two size 8 of the type 9. And bigs ships like anaconda, cutter and corvette can storage more passengar than the beluga, even if they are not fitted for that at the origin, they are only made for fight or exploration (anaconda) and for heavy transport. So I'm a bit frustrated of this limit, because when you look the beluga and when you see it's modules's size. It's look there is a big problem
. Because only ONE size 8 = 4 size 6, so you should have at least 8 size 6 in the beluga and not only 4. And I find that very limit the utility of the beluga, because It can only do luxury mission, if you compare it with other ships, because any bigger ships can beat (not the type9 and 10) it in economic, business and first class.Yes, I also did some calculations (and estimations) and concluded that the Beloga should have at least double the number of modules. Personally I am OK with using the Dolphin as yacht (and explorer with luxus bathing facility ) as I don't want to worry about carrying 8 needy groups of rich tourists through the galaxy. But of course larger (or more) modules would allow larger groups like an SF convention with 500 people touring to see Orion or such.
) as I don't want to worry about carrying 8 needy groups of rich tourists through the galaxy. But of course larger (or more) modules would allow larger groups like an SF convention with 500 people touring to see Orion or such.So it's hightly possible frontier will never change that ?Yes, I also did some calculations (and estimations) and concluded that the Beloga should have at least double the number of modules. Personally I am OK with using the Dolphin as yacht (and explorer with luxus bathing facility
Because over size 6 are “Suites”, not cabins and that requires expensive rewriting of flavor text.
Or, if you’re talking econo-cans, over size 6 is called “Type-6”, and that’s a ship.
Kind of like “why doesn’t Smart make a limousine”? Because that would be a Volkswagen Beetle.
Or, if you’re talking econo-cans, over size 6 is called “Type-6”, and that’s a ship.
Kind of like “why doesn’t Smart make a limousine”? Because that would be a Volkswagen Beetle.
Unless they do together with space legs. Then they discover that walking though a Beluga takes only half the time it should.
Actually I don't know. I read somewhere that they have a (possibly) rough interior design so perhaps everything is correct and I don't see the errors in my calculation.
We were talking about econo-cans. While I don't see a use for them it is not a reason they do not exist.
But they do exist:
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Problem with larger cabins is you'd probably need to increase the number of missions on the board (and the passenger counts), as I know I often struggle to fill a large PAX econo-ship. And then the issues with the Beluga - where if you give it larger modules it would become OP, and it already has so many modules that it is a useful explorer. Possibly you could add extra Size 6 locked to PAX, maybe. Not really sure it's adding much gameplay, though I agree the 'luga should be the best pax ship.
Only reason I can think to add size 7/8 cabins is Station Rescue missions, as they often have enough to stack a larger ship, but I'm not convinced they should unbalance the whole PAX area just so people can grind rank faster.
Only reason I can think to add size 7/8 cabins is Station Rescue missions, as they often have enough to stack a larger ship, but I'm not convinced they should unbalance the whole PAX area just so people can grind rank faster.
But in fact, you will stay locked with 20 mission in the same time at maximum, so that will be not so much broken as you think, because if you are lucky and you find only low number of peoples missions, you can reach the maximum missions capacity. And it's a bit broken to do rescues mission to up rank, I agree
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Sure, it seems on paper that the Beluga is carrying too few people. But don't forget that the SG ships are specialised passenger ships - they have a casino, buffet, a kids club, bars, viewing platforms, a swimming pool - in addition to the passenger cabins.
You can put those same passenger cabins in a T9 or whatever. But the passengers have no amenities. Imaging going on a cruise to the Caribbean - "sorry folks, no facilities on this ship, so please stay in your room and eat sandwiches for the next 3 weeks"
You can put those same passenger cabins in a T9 or whatever. But the passengers have no amenities. Imaging going on a cruise to the Caribbean - "sorry folks, no facilities on this ship, so please stay in your room and eat sandwiches for the next 3 weeks"
Yeah I heard about that, but where we can see precisely what is inside the beluga ? On the description of the ship ? But sadly these luxury rooms are totally hidden for us, paraplegic commanders!
Yeah I heard about that, but where we can see precisely what is inside the beluga ? On the description of the ship ? But sadly these luxury rooms are totally hidden for us, paraplegic commanders!
Standup and protest!!
Oh, wait...
The passenger ships are like proper liners or even cruise ships, the other ships are like a Ro/Ro cargo ships with a few cabins for the truck drivers. Very basic amenities. This is exactly why I would prefer to have the Saud-Kruger ships (and perhaps the Cutter as well) effectively upgrade their cabin class one level.
Since this post got me commenting, note that these are not supposed to be just seats but cabins. A bit silly when most trips usually take just minutes, but that's what we have. Comparison to planes is not that good then. With bigger than 6 modules we would definitely need a new kind of interface for getting passengers to fill them all. It has been suggested before and goes something like this: You select destination and get a list of passengers with number of each cabin requirements available. You load them up like cargo. The rich people charter missions would remain the same.
Yeah that à good approach, because in fact I never see a real difference between economic passengers and luxury passengers, the only one was how many they are. And they don't pay you much more than an army of business man. So that reduce considerably the utility of the beluga if you compare luxury passengers and others passenger's categories. And if you want to make passenger travel (not the luxury ones) in bigs ships you will choose the beluga in last choice, because it is very much more weak than a corvette, a cutter or an anaconda.
I think the passenger cabin icons show what to expect.
On one end Economy is just some sleeping pipes or similar to a sleeping cabin in a train, some seats that can be reorganized for sleeping 2 persons high.
On the other end Luxury has divided areas for sleeping, entertainment and sitting and possibly access to your own maid or butler.
Actually in an emergency you should be able to push in as many as the life support allows but that is something else.
On one end Economy is just some sleeping pipes or similar to a sleeping cabin in a train, some seats that can be reorganized for sleeping 2 persons high.
On the other end Luxury has divided areas for sleeping, entertainment and sitting and possibly access to your own maid or butler.
Actually in an emergency you should be able to push in as many as the life support allows but that is something else.
And to say I opened this topic because of emergency evacuations
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That can be a good idea, but I think frontier have to review/rework the beluga and the cabins or something like that, because that make the passenger transport a little bit useless. That is an important part of the trade and I have the impression it is forsaken, and I find that too bad.