Newcomer / Intro Will Mac and Xbox players be at a disadvantage?

[xrem]

Due to these upcoming platform releases being many months after the PC version - won't these players be at a massive disadvantage if they are thrown into the same game as the PC players?
I'll probably adopt both Mac and XBox - but due to still being an XP(VMWare) user - haven't played the game yet, and so have only twitch'ed the game for now.
It's going to be like jumping into Call of Duty as a new guy, to be just brassed up by the people who have played for years=limited playability=limited enjoyment as a multiplayer game.

Is there a way to not play human players until you're good enough? Or will there be a way for all you experienced Cmdrs to take us 'under your wing', and be tolerant with the new guys/gals not knowing they are doing?

 

[huwthomas]

You can play in Solo mode or in a PvE group like Mobius.

I don't think it's really platform based, there are new PC players coming along all the time too ... at least I hope there are!

 

[clivewil]

outwardly to the rest of us already here, there won't be anything to let us know that someone is playing on a console or a mac, unless they communicate as such. sometimes a players' behaviour lets you know they are still getting a feel for the game - like with any game, for many established players they'll feel a brotherly need to help them along, but there will always be a small number who like to 'grief newbs' so it won't be an entirely painless transition, i think

i'd stick to the well-policed core systems and avoid tempting fate in anarchy systems and Strong Signal Sources until a bit more confidence and skill is gained

there might be offers from seasoned players to let a newcomer join a wing, and learn the game that way - that would be the ultimate outcome, you'd experience the whole panorama and would have someone to pull you out of the fire when needed

time will tell, i guess

 

[Ancipital]

outwardly to the rest of us already here, there won't be anything to let us know that someone is playing on a console or a mac

..except that you won't see XBone players ingame at all from another platform, obvs..

 

[Zeeman]

Kind of sick of the "disadvantaged because they start later" thing. People starting the game in two years will be disadvantaged compared to the people who start today. It's life. Do we reset the planet every time a baby is born because it is at a disadvantage tot he one born a year ago?

Z...

 

[Deleted member 37733]

Do we reset the planet every time a baby is born because it is at a disadvantage tot he one born a year ago?

Z...

Ha ha! Excellent!

 

[xrem]

You can play in Solo mode or in a PvE group like Mobius.

Thanks for the heads up.

i'd stick to the well-policed core systems and avoid tempting fate in anarchy systems and Strong Signal Sources until a bit more confidence and skill is gained

there might be offers from seasoned players to let a newcomer join a wing, and learn the game that way - that would be the ultimate outcome, you'd experience the whole panorama and would have someone to pull you out of the fire when needed

time will tell, i guess

Another thoughtful response, and a top tip - Cheers

Kind of sick of the "disadvantaged because they start later" thing. People starting the game in two years will be disadvantaged compared to the people who start today. It's life. Do we reset the planet every time a baby is born because it is at a disadvantage tot he one born a year ago?

Z...

No, but we also don't wait in the corner of maternity rooms with multi-barrelled weapons waiting for the lucky newborn.

 

[the100thmonkey]

From reading the announcement thread for the Xbone version, it's not indicated that they will share instances with the PC and Mac versions. They will share the background simulation, However.

Unless something has changed on the last couple of days, that's how I understand the announcement.

 

[mossfoot]

Aside from the obvious that Xbox, PS4 and PC players won't interact for development release reasons, I just wanted to point out that a game like this will have turnover. Heck, even at release not everyone was on the same footing because Gamma players didn't get their saves wiped. But even if they were, eventually you have people burn out and quit for a time (or forever) while new players come in. It won't be long before it's a more even mix of old and new, and then you'll have people coming back after a while as well... In short there is no disadvantage to starting late, there is no equal footing, there is only your footing.

 

[Gold Member]

You're going to get beat up. Learn fast and the pain won't be forever. I started playing EVE when there were already 7 year veterans (tens of thousands of skill points, dozens or hundreds of ships to choose from, billions in isk to buy equipment, ships, finance derp fleets to go after noobs). They would camp stations for hours just to blow a nice ship up and for no other reason.

A few months in ED is nothing compared to that. In 5 years there might be a difference.

 

[Hellhawk666]

Will Mac and Xbox players be at a disadvantage?

Yes - they won't be playing on the best gaming platform

 

[Himmel Tropf]

^ this.
If you need to ask this you obviously are not master race.
Long live the motherboard!

I also think you may be frequenting maternity wards in the wrong locations...
Having 500hr play time doesn't do diddly squat for you, if you choose to run a hauler without shields.

 

[RobWolves]

You won't be at a disadvantage, because the XBone, Mac and PC players won't be sharing the same instances. They will share the same galaxy and effect the same galaxy, but will never meet each other.

You will only come across players from your platform and therefore will be at the same level playing field. Unless you join later on those platforms.

I think some people are misunderstanding the sharing the same galaxy is not the same as being in the same instance and seeing players from different platforms.

 

[xrem]

I suppose the thing to take away from this is 'save game is your friend'.

I'm sure all will become apparent when the inferior gaming platform comes online (bearing in mind that there's alot of 'inferior' machines out there already capable of (and indeed) running ED on Winblows via bootcamp or WMWare.

I wonder if there'll be stats available as to OS vs experience in the future?

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You won't be at a disadvantage, because the XBone, Mac and PC players won't be sharing the same instances. They will share the same galaxy and effect the same galaxy, but will never meet each other.

You will only come across players from your platform and therefore will be at the same level playing field. Unless you join later on those platforms.

I think some people are misunderstanding the sharing the same galaxy is not the same as being in the same instance and seeing players from different platforms.

I think the 'some people' will be me, and that's because I'm not in game to find out what it's all about. It all becomes much clearer now-thanks.

 

[Sapient6]

I suppose the thing to take away from this is 'save game is your friend'.

Haha, no. There is no save game.

 

[AstroZak]

When you start, you'll get a sidewinder, after a few hours/days/couple of weeks, you should be able to upgrade to a bigger ship (adder, viper, cobra, asp) and kit it out.
At that point, you should have enough flying hours under your belt to be able to throw the ship about. You're weapons etc will be good for your ship, so you'll be able to play and have fun as the game intended.

Sure, you might be outgunned by someone in an anaconda, but you should know better than to try and take out a sometime much more powerful - you could still try, and you might even succeed, but I doubt it.

 

[Ancipital]

Kind of sick of the "disadvantaged because they start later" thing. People starting the game in two years will be disadvantaged compared to the people who start today. It's life. Do we reset the planet every time a baby is born because it is at a disadvantage tot he one born a year ago?

Z...

Leaving aside, of course, the small matter hundreds of millions that people made from the massive bugs with markets and the Seeking Luxuries exploit, which absolutely does give them a ludicrously huge advantage. See how quickly people made trading Elite in the race to Elite? That wouldn't have been possible in that short time frame if the game weren't utterly broken and exploitable.

There should have been a wipe. Personally, I skipped playing in gamma too much, and only came back for more than the combat tutorials until after the game was working a little better. My bad, I know- such is the price of inconvenient personal ethics.

New players won't be able to shart negotiable currency while bragging about having an Anaconda for each day of the week like some sort of hip hop d-bag, it's true. However, they won't be so out of the running that they aren't able to participate. It's still easy to start from scratch, trade up to a Cobra, run rares, trade up to a T6, run more rares/commodities, and then decide on T7/Asp/Vulture/Clipper and onwards as the mood takes you. It can be done, it just won't be done in an hour or two while exploiting clearly broken mechanics.

From reading the announcement thread for the Xbone version, it's not indicated that they will share instances with the PC and Mac versions. They will share the background simulation, However.

Unless something has changed on the last couple of days, that's how I understand the announcement.

More importantly, it would be the first XBone game to allow this, if it did. Microsoft are very firm about XBone stuff happening on specific XBL servers and not allowing cross-platform play. Had this changed, the gaming press would be making a very big fuss about it, as it'd be way bigger news than ED itself.