Windows in ships?

Starhound

Starhound
I love the way the game is looking its gorgeous but I do have a design question. I mean its set over a thousand years in the future? Yet the main way of flying a ship is looking out of a window using the mark I eyeball? The windows would be such a week spot on the ships even some of the amazing game footage I've seen on u-tube has the "glass" cracking. It would also be a give away if you are in "stealth" all that heat radiating from cockpit via the glass and of course the pilot. How might it be? well it could be some sort of sensory system fed directly to the pilot who would be buried in the middle of the ship via implants of some sort, giving him/her a 360 field view rather than just what is in front?

Seems so strange in keeping things so realistic with the newtonian physics and spinning stations but the ships are flown like WW2. Is this because Frontier believe its the way it would be or keeping in the tradition of how all space sims have been done and therefore player expectations?

Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking how it has been done (like I stated before it looks gorgeous) but I am curious.
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Please, please NO Windows on our ships!

Just imagine the hassle. You dock your shiny Cobra, upgrade to a bigger and shiner weapon, and just as you try to start her up again - the system beeps and demands reactivation as your hardware has changed.

Even worse, you are trying to dock with an old station in the middle of nowhere, and your ships docking computer refuses to talk with such antiquated gear as driver support ended at Service Pack 400 :(

Or you get stopped by the police, and they ask you for your pilots license, ships registration, systems tax disc, and just as you think they are going to let you leave - they nab you for having a OEM system license on a second-hand ship :(

Please no! ;)
 

Maxeren

Maxeren
Starhound said:
I love the way the game is looking its gorgeous but I do have a design question. I mean its set over a thousand years in the future? Yet the main way of flying a ship is looking out of a window using the mark I eyeball? The windows would be such a week spot on the ships even some of the amazing game footage I've seen on u-tube has the "glass" cracking. It would also be a give away if you are in "stealth" all that heat radiating from cockpit via the glass and of course the pilot. How might it be? well it could be some sort of sensory system fed directly to the pilot who would be buried in the middle of the ship via implants of some sort, giving him/her a 360 field view rather than just what is in front?

Seems so strange in keeping things so realistic with the newtonian physics and spinning stations but the ships are flown like WW2. Is this because Frontier believe its the way it would be or keeping in the tradition of how all space sims have been done and therefore player expectations?

Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking how it has been done (like I stated before it looks gorgeous) but I am curious.
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Its a game set in the far future and not a realistic space simulator set in the far future where ships are constructed in a realistic manner that would seem fitting to the age. Elite has a legacy of iconic ship designs which are getting a "shiner upper" to fit with new technology, but will retain some of their identifiable shapes.

Some things are done because gameplay wise, it makes sense. Being able to see your enemy in a 360 arc would not give you much chance of shaking your persuer, so hence we get the ww2 chase. :D
 
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Gelbrock

Gelbrock
I have already pre purchased a set of lovely 16 century Swiss style wooden oak shutters, I'm under no illusions that they would resist a direct hit from Military laser.... but I'm cautiously confident that Ill be fine against a pulse laser.

The flower box that comes with it will have to be re painted. Bright yellow flowers on decorative swirly off lime green vines simply do not sit well for me as a space theme..... its just not my bag. :rolleyes:
 

ste

S
Whos to say they are windows, it could be transparent future metal.

Whos to say in 3300 we stop looking thru windows?

Maybe this is exactly like the future, or maybe in 3300, we are still driving around earth in a ford focus Mk1327 cos hyperspace technology isnt physically possible ever.

Which could be why no aliens have bothered to visit us yet either. :)
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
??

In the year 3000, there have been many scientific advancements ...
However, the essential Vitamin [D] has proved impossible to synthesise in laboratory.

Though available from a natural source; the "Cod", the liver of which can supplement this vit, is found ONLY in the natural water chemistry complex found, on its indigenous planet; Earth, Sol (0,0).
(And even then only in aquariums, since oceanic pollution in the early to mid 21st)

As such this natural source of D is prohibitively expensive.

D is a requirement as it encourages bodily absorption of Calcium ..
Added to most foods, Calcium is known to leech from leg bones during exposure to zero gravity;

Pilots of windowless ships can survive, for periods in deepspace, however on reaching any form of Gravity, simulated or otherwise are unable to hold their own body weight and collapse, in a heap, like a blob of extra slippery redberry jelly as the now blubbery body also often "pops".

((Hyperspace slingshot maneuvers also, are 99% of the time fatal after only 3 months in space.))

As a result the Pilots Federation will only grant a design license to ship layouts with adequate natural light, and that can provide flightdeck occupants sufficient intake of D and in the interests of our pilots' safety.

Additionally, included windows, will also let players better enjoy the (tm) vista. :D

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NeoRacer

N
Why even have manned ships? We already have drones so now we can have a game where you watch a guy watch a screen flying a drone. Similar to the 3p debacle where you need to have a 'view drone' to just see your own damn ship..:rolleyes: lol


Starhound said:
I love the way the game is looking its gorgeous but I do have a design question. I mean its set over a thousand years in the future? Yet the main way of flying a ship is looking out of a window using the mark I eyeball? The windows would be such a week spot on the ships even some of the amazing game footage I've seen on u-tube has the "glass" cracking. It would also be a give away if you are in "stealth" all that heat radiating from cockpit via the glass and of course the pilot. How might it be? well it could be some sort of sensory system fed directly to the pilot who would be buried in the middle of the ship via implants of some sort, giving him/her a 360 field view rather than just what is in front?

Seems so strange in keeping things so realistic with the newtonian physics and spinning stations but the ships are flown like WW2. Is this because Frontier believe its the way it would be or keeping in the tradition of how all space sims have been done and therefore player expectations?

Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking how it has been done (like I stated before it looks gorgeous) but I am curious.
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Adept

Adept
@OP these things keep popping up. If you start to think about it like that, you'll never be happy.

Elite is about a certain style of _retro_ Sci-Fi. Seventies at the latest. Additionally the setting has had troubles with artificial intelligences, and the ships are sort of low tech when it comes to IT, and yeah, it's probably seen as an important safeguard that people can actually see outside without relying on sensors :cool:
 

TheProdigy

T
Would be cool if it was like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nohF6uLkvvQ

Basically if you watch the video. He says how unrealistic having glass panels in space would be. Since theyre so fragile cant won retain heat as good. So he designs his ships that have armor ALL around the ship. With digital screens replicating the cockpit. Cause realistically speaking...1 shot to the glass. boom dead.

Ships wouldn't have to look much different than they do now. just no glass windows.
 

Dejay

Dejay
It's of course a question of style :) It just wouldn't be l33t sitting in an orbital control system or having your consciousness uploaded into the unmanned ships software. If you think realistically of the year 3300, everything would be automated, there is no room for individual economic activities. Entire planets would be converted by self replicating nano forges who spawn quadrillions of bots who take that **** apart and ship it off. As a human "space ship pilot" you wouldn't even operate a single ship, you would be working on economic projects as a corporate underling. Maybe optimizing some software algorithm for harvesting a planets resources a few percent more efficiently based on it's specific physical properties. Like adding or removing another variable in the global optimization of the harvesting bot swarm. Or adapting the standard industry terraforming solution of class M planet.

If we'd even terraform planets anymore because why live in the real world instead of in a stasis pod if VR is so awesome you can massive orgy drugs drugs drugs and rehab vacation in about a nanosecond. Then go back to work :mad:

Nah I'd rather have my spaceship fantasy ;)
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Despite the invention of Tamagotchi ..
real live pets (such as felis silvestris catus, cats) still prove unerringly popular?

"On arrival at his destination the pilot of the experimental windowless ship emerged, to find that he had in fact travelled no distance at all. The view on the live feed had been pure SIMULATION and, having seen him complete this behavioural experiment, his captors moved him to the next .. vivisection"
 
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Shigawire

Shigawire
Eyota Winterwalker said:
??

In the year 3000, there have been many scientific advancements ...
However, the essential Vitamin [D] has proved impossible to synthesise in laboratory.

Though available from a natural source; the "Cod", the liver of which can supplement this vit, is found ONLY in the natural water chemistry complex found, on its indigenous planet; Earth, Sol (0,0).
(And even then only in aquariums, since oceanic pollution in the early to mid 21st)

As such this natural source of D is prohibitively expensive.

D is a requirement as it encourages bodily absorption of Calcium ..
Added to most foods, Calcium is known to leech from leg bones during exposure to zero gravity;

Pilots of windowless ships can survive, for periods in deepspace, however on reaching any form of Gravity, simulated or otherwise are unable to hold their own body weight and collapse, in a heap, like a blob of extra slippery redberry jelly as the now blubbery body also often "pops".

((Hyperspace slingshot maneuvers also, are 99% of the time fatal after only 3 months in space.))

As a result the Pilots Federation will only grant a design license to ship layouts with adequate natural light, and that can provide flightdeck occupants sufficient intake of D and in the interests of our pilots' safety.

Additionally, included windows, will also let players better enjoy the (tm) vista. :D

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Bravo :D

I like
 
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