Winged Delivery mission rewards is way less then normal Delivery missions

[rain_walker]

With a T9 Ship i took around 12 Delivery missions from Nanomam to Nang-ta-Khian (11.78LY) with a cargo of 788t and the reward was about 15.6 Million cr in ONE TRIP

in comparison i took a winged mission by myself from Nanoman to Nang Ta-Khain with 5 Trips back and forth to deliver 3300t of cargo and the reward was 2.8 Million cr

It didnt seem worth it to be honest... Fun but worthless credit wise

 

[Askorti]

Pirate hunting missions are the same way. You can stack a few solo missions, kill fewer pirates in total, but get more credits and mats anyway.
Wing missions are just a gimmick so that people who would play in wings anyway have something to enjoy. To anyone else they're pretty much worthless.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

Not only do they not reward you well for the amount of work they require but they also do not persist for the wingmates that it is shared with when the wing leader leaves or the wingmate leaves. So if the players scheduling to okay doesn't line up all the work the wingmates put in will be for nothing as they won't be able to cash in the reward since the mission is completely removed from their tab. So the wing leader has to re-wing up and share it. Worse they can wing up with anyone who didn't even participate and then deliver the final kill or ton of cargo and turn it in and people who did nothing get paid.


Edit: almost forgot they also generate missions that are literally impossible to complete. Had one for 32mil to source 2199 insulating membranes in 24hrs. Insulating membranes commodity market allotment is usually between 1 - 30.

 

[fuub]

Not only do they not reward you well for the amount of work they require but they also do not persist for the wingmates that it is shared with when the wing leader leaves or the wingmate leaves. So if the players scheduling to okay doesn't line up all the work the wingmates put in will be for nothing as they won't be able to cash in the reward since the mission is completely removed from their tab. So the wing leader has to re-wing up and share it. Worse they can wing up with anyone who didn't even participate and then deliver the final kill or ton of cargo and turn it in and people who did nothing get paid.

reaaaaally? so you are obliged to make the whole mission in the same play session with all your wing?? That sounds horrible design

 

[Eldragon]

Did these get nerfed since Beta? I remember looking at wing payout missions in beta and being excited about how lucrative they are. Saw a couple with 30-50 million payouts.

 

[mtt9999 [Parabolus]]

With a T9 Ship i took around 12 Delivery missions from Nanomam to Nang-ta-Khian (11.78LY) with a cargo of 788t and the reward was about 15.6 Million cr in ONE TRIP

in comparison i took a winged mission by myself from Nanoman to Nang Ta-Khain with 5 Trips back and forth to deliver 3300t of cargo and the reward was 2.8 Million cr

It didnt seem worth it to be honest... Fun but worthless credit wise

Yes this is a flaw... and needs to be addressed by FDev or Wing Missions will be used as much as PP. I would raise a ticket.

That being said, the payouts for wing missions do vary greatly by commodities traded. I found a system that was paying out decent money for wing delivery of gold / silver... but VERY little for Grain [in fact my first wing mission was 1,500 tonnes of grain for 1.5mil credit... um no thanks wont make that mistake again!

reaaaaally? so you are obliged to make the whole mission in the same play session with all your wing?? That sounds horrible design

I have seen no such thing... The go get and return missions have bigger payouts, but that is, of course, because you have to BUY the materials...

 

[fuub]

Did these get nerfed since Beta? I remember looking at wing payout missions in beta and being excited about how lucrative they are. Saw a couple with 30-50 million payouts.

Its common in ED to nerf new features rewards when going live so no one uses them and they won't take more development time from FD.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

reaaaaally? so you are obliged to make the whole mission in the same play session with all your wing?? That sounds horrible design

Yeah, unless you and your wingmates have a free schedule where they can plan to all be on at a later time and date to wing up and reshare the mission


Plus the do this , an edit from the prior post

Edit: almost forgot they also generate missions that are literally impossible to complete. Had one for 32mil to source 2199 insulating membranes in 24hrs. Insulating membranes commodity market allotment is usually between 1 - 30.

 

[ZeroAi]

With a T9 Ship i took around 12 Delivery missions from Nanomam to Nang-ta-Khian (11.78LY) with a cargo of 788t and the reward was about 15.6 Million cr in ONE TRIP

in comparison i took a winged mission by myself from Nanoman to Nang Ta-Khain with 5 Trips back and forth to deliver 3300t of cargo and the reward was 2.8 Million cr

It didnt seem worth it to be honest... Fun but worthless credit wise

Man, I hope they fix this!

This use to be an issue when you had to split bounties with wingmates - why fly together if you're gong to make less....

 

[Ian Doncaster]

I've seen 20 million credits for 4000t haul missions. With a full wing doing those, that could be 50-100MCr/hour each easily. You could make more than that with solo haul missions if - and it's a big if - you could find enough of them reliably. Much easier to pick up one good wing mission (four chances to find it!) every couple of trips than to hope there are several solo missions all going the same way every time you dock. You have to pick/set up the right BGS states and economies, though.

Similarly the wing assassination missions pay more than the non-wing ones, and that pay gets copied (up to) four ways.

The wing massacre missions are just silly, but then I think the non-wing ones already had a ridiculous target count...

Edit: almost forgot they also generate missions that are literally impossible to complete. Had one for 32mil to source 2199 insulating membranes in 24hrs. Insulating membranes commodity market allotment is usually between 1 - 30.

All the "source" ones can generate ridiculous requests, that's not connected to wings - saw one asking for 64t of Reinforced Mounting Plate (which would have been okay, except the nearest station selling it was 22,000 LY away). It's a consequence of the market demand for some items being way higher than the supply.

 

[Monk]

I've found no shortage of well paying wing missions that I could complete myself with a my T-9... Did a few last night that required 3-4 one jump trips (+1 to get back each time) and was taking in roughly 5+ million for each wing mission. Could I do better just trading on my own? Sure, but there is no option to be rewarded with mats with just normal trading.

Note, I'm fully allied with the stations I'm working with.

Also, I did find one fortunate situation where I got a delivery wing mission for the return leg of the other mission. This was great and ensured I was always traveling with a full hold.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

I've seen 20 million credits for 4000t haul missions. With a full wing doing those, that could be 50-100MCr/hour each easily. You could make more than that with solo haul missions if - and it's a big if - you could find enough of them reliably. Much easier to pick up one good wing mission (four chances to find it!) every couple of trips than to hope there are several solo missions all going the same way every time you dock. You have to pick/set up the right BGS states and economies, though.

Similarly the wing assassination missions pay more than the non-wing ones, and that pay gets copied (up to) four ways.

The wing massacre missions are just silly, but then I think the non-wing ones already had a ridiculous target count...

All the "source" ones can generate ridiculous requests, that's not connected to wings - saw one asking for 64t of Reinforced Mounting Plate (which would have been okay, except the nearest station selling it was 22,000 LY away). It's a consequence of the market demand for some items being way higher than the supply.

Sounds as though you have had far better luck with your mission generation, my wing hauling missions are lower in pay than one trip solo missions. My wing assassinations are the same as the solo in price which doesn't bother me too much because at least my wing mates get the payout too.

 

[Bryan K]

CZ massacre missions are the same. 6 million credits to kill 206 ships? Not worth it.

The worst part is that there are so few solo missions to choose as an alternative.

 

[CMDR BOSLEY]

CZ massacre missions are the same. 6 million credits to kill 206 ships? Not worth it.

The worst part is that there are so few solo missions to choose as an alternative.

I feel like there should be a separate board for wing missions within the mission board to alleviate this. I also wish they would generate missions at your rank and higher as i have no interest in the low waste of time missions.

 

[RevCaoticFox]

With a T9 Ship i took around 12 Delivery missions from Nanomam to Nang-ta-Khian (11.78LY) with a cargo of 788t and the reward was about 15.6 Million cr in ONE TRIP

in comparison i took a winged mission by myself from Nanoman to Nang Ta-Khain with 5 Trips back and forth to deliver 3300t of cargo and the reward was 2.8 Million cr

It didnt seem worth it to be honest... Fun but worthless credit wise

When you share the wing missions, are the rewards split or are all wingmates eligible for the full reward?

 

[Askorti]

When you share the wing missions, are the rewards split or are all wingmates eligible for the full reward?

Everyone gets full reward.

 

[Eldragon]

I feel like there should be a separate board for wing missions within the mission board to alleviate this. I also wish they would generate missions at your rank and higher as i have no interest in the low waste of time missions.

Agreed. If I'm in a wing, I'm going to be looking for wing missions. If I'm not in a wing, I don't care. So it makes perfect sense to put them in separate boards.

Or alternatively add it as a filter dropdown and have the board generate missions based on the filter.

 

[Bryan K]

I feel like there should be a separate board for wing missions within the mission board to alleviate this. I also wish they would generate missions at your rank and higher as i have no interest in the low waste of time missions.

I agree completely.

 

[Viper2kUK]

Have to agree with some of the above posts. I found I was previously getting 6mil credits for shipping 180/200 tonnes of Platinum, etc. All I'm seeing on the boards now are ship 3200tonnes for about 6mil. I understand that these figures should get modified as players speak up more about them but If you're going to be doing drops like that, then make it properly worth the money.

Add more for the solo player and have a filter for winged missions so us solo artists can continue on and select if we want a winged mission.

CS72.

 

[rain_walker]

I've found no shortage of well paying wing missions that I could complete myself with a my T-9... Did a few last night that required 3-4 one jump trips (+1 to get back each time) and was taking in roughly 5+ million for each wing mission. Could I do better just trading on my own? Sure, but there is no option to be rewarded with mats with just normal trading.

Note, I'm fully allied with the stations I'm working with.

Also, I did find one fortunate situation where I got a delivery wing mission for the return leg of the other mission. This was great and ensured I was always traveling with a full hold.

Taking solo trading missions will give u 12 different rewards with 3 options each instead of one mission reward with 3 option and 5% amount of the 12 missions rewards