Winter 2023 PDLC speculation

[gabeluna27]

although I'm not sure how likely that is considering the distaste people have for hybrids.

That's only a vocal minority. Both games have a few million copies sold each (about 3 million on one record for JWE1 in 2020, and about 1 million in one for JWE2 in 2022), and only a couple hundred or over a thousand people online saying so. Even JWE1 dino designs people on social media who endlessly wanted to see changed for JWE2 were kept, just like every single other dino from JWE1 in this game. There's no reason to say they won't ever keep the JWE1 Dr. Wu hybrid designs for JWE2.

 

[Thylaco]

With them rationing out the remaining canon species; I'm expecting three packs in 2024 each with one of the remaining three canon species. A cretaceous herbivore pack with Microeratus in March seems like a safe bet. Smilodon would then be in a mammal/Cenozoic pack so that it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb by being the only mammal in the game.

That just leaves Sinospino which could be added in Hybird pack, although I'm not sure how likely that is considering the distaste people have for hybrids.

There's also the Chaos Theory show starting next year (maybe around February based on the Teaser), so the Canon list will probably grow a little.

If they go for a Hybrid Pack, it's hard to justify a pack with just Sino-Spino and the JWE1 hybrids. They'd need more novelty to sell it at the same price, so redesigns, Lux patterns, extra species, or lowering the price would be options.

They could call it the Experiment Pack to broaden the extra species pool to just stranger designs (the often requested Telltale Troodon for example), assuming they're not confident in new hybrids selling.

 

[gabeluna27]

If they go for a Hybrid Pack, it's hard to justify a pack with just Sino-Spino and the JWE1 hybrids. They'd need more novelty to sell it at the same price, so redesigns, Lux patterns, extra species, or lowering the price would be options.

They could call it the Experiment Pack to broaden the extra species pool to just stranger designs (the often requested Telltale Troodon for example), assuming they're not confident in new hybrids selling.

Besides what I said above, the only fourth hybrid I can positively think of seeing them go for a 4+ dino pack that will include the JWE1 Dr. Wu hybrids is the Carnoraptor, and I have said my reasons why I think so in the Cretaceous Predator Pack and Update 8 announcement thread. Plus, I don't believe, no matter how frequently requested it is online and social media, they will directly reference or base anything beyond the movie continuity. Meaning: No novel continuity or other Jurassic game content, minus any real dinosaur species in general.

 

[Thylaco]

Plus, I don't believe, no matter how frequently requested it is online and social media, they will directly reference or base anything beyond the movie continuity. Meaning: No novel continuity or other Jurassic game content, minus any real dinosaur species in general.

There's certainly no obligation to do these things, but being popular on paper gives a decent chance of them, or parts of them, being considered. Take Arboreal behaviour in Microceratus and Othnielia, a singular interactive tree is quite doable, albeit more animation work than the Lagoon platform.

Sharing profits on a Telltale design is kind of a terrible idea, so I'd say they're more likely to apply the basic premise to another small theropod, like Segisaurus, assuming they actually feel it's a popular enough thing.

 

[gabeluna27]

There's certainly no obligation to do these things, but being popular on paper gives a decent chance of them, or parts of them, being considered. Take Arboreal behaviour in Microceratus and Othnielia, a singular interactive tree is quite doable, albeit more animation work than the Lagoon platform.

Sharing profits on a Telltale design is kind of a terrible idea, so I'd say they're more likely to apply the basic premise to another small theropod, like Segisaurus, assuming they actually feel it's a popular enough thing.

It's true popularity on suggestions can become more probable to happen, it's just not a necessity for every single popular request. It usually depends on what it is overall. Real dinosaur species from said sources are realistically possible, it's just that they'll most likely not be directly based on or be in DLCs named after where they are in those places.

Segisaurus I'd say does has a good chance. Microceratus I do think so too, because it's an on-screen dinosaur in the flesh. For the latter, nobody knows, if it will, where and when it will arrive in the game. I've seen opinion groups say one thing or another, but I still strongly believe it is planned and set to be in something "Site B" related, only because I see that as a way they might also add stuff that's "Site B lore" and "JP trilogy lore" in nature all together in one. Like the TLW Pteranodon design, TLW and JPIII style buildings and decorations in one set, and (just so there is a new dino species in it) Microceratus. If JWE1's RTJP expansion pack included only two new species, what earthly reason is there they will not ever do the same for JWE2 with two, or even only one new species?

I believe the notion that all of JWE2's expansion packs will or should have four new species to exist or happen is fundamentally false, mainly because of what Frontier proved for JWE1's Return to Jurassic Park. Of course, it might be different for this game where they won't do the same thing here because nobody knows, but there's no irrefutable proof to say so (yet).

 

[Thylaco]

It's true popularity on suggestions can become more probable to happen, it's just not a necessity for every single popular request. It usually depends on what it is overall. Real dinosaur species from said sources are realistically possible, it's just that they'll most likely not be directly based on or be in DLCs named after where they are in those places.

Segisaurus I'd say does has a good chance. Microceratus I do think so too, because it's an on-screen dinosaur in the flesh. For the latter, nobody knows, if it will, where and when it will arrive in the game. I've seen opinion groups say one thing or another, but I still strongly believe it is planned and set to be in something "Site B" related, only because I see that as a way they might also add stuff that's "Site B lore" and "JP trilogy lore" in nature all together in one. Like the TLW Pteranodon design, TLW and JPIII style buildings and decorations in one set, and (just so there is a new dino species in it) Microceratus. If JWE1's RTJP expansion pack included only two new species, what earthly reason is there they will not ever do the same for JWE2 with two, or even only one new species?

I believe the notion that all of JWE2's expansion packs will or should have four new species to exist or happen is fundamentally false, mainly because of what Frontier proved for JWE1's Return to Jurassic Park. Of course, it might be different for this game where they won't do the same thing here because nobody knows, but there's no irrefutable proof to say so (yet).

The main thing about Return to Jurassic Park, and the Camp Cretaceous pack, is that the model variants compensate for and even exceed the value of the lacked species.

Frontier consistently relies on the animals as DLC selling points (even in Planet Zoo, where the animals are pretty secondary to exhibit design), so I don't see them taking a risk by changing composition that much, especially after losing a fair bit last Financial year.

We'll see what happens, hopefully Expansions are still a possibility.

 

[Butter]

There's also the Chaos Theory show starting next year (maybe around February based on the Teaser), so the Canon list will probably grow a little.

If they go for a Hybrid Pack, it's hard to justify a pack with just Sino-Spino and the JWE1 hybrids. They'd need more novelty to sell it at the same price, so redesigns, Lux patterns, extra species, or lowering the price would be options.

They could call it the Experiment Pack to broaden the extra species pool to just stranger designs (the often requested Telltale Troodon for example), assuming they're not confident in new hybrids selling.

I agree that reselling content from the first game wouldn't go over very well. The only other thematic option I could see for Sino-spino would be some sort of piscivore pack since we do see it eat fish. It could include another spinosaurid (Irritator and Icthyovenator seem to be the most requested), Pelicanimimus, Masiakasaurus, or some token pterosaur/marine reptile.