wish i looked at these forums before i deleted and got a refund on ED
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78? Damn, hope I'll still be playing games when I get there.
You are kidding? 78?
That is incredible.
You must be the most senior CMDR out in the void.
And I thought I was old, being 52. I play on PC though.
I agree ED is really worth it. The ED universe is beautiful.
And it is exciting to be part of a game that is in the midst of development and has so much development potential yet.
In some ways I see Elite as being rather like Dark Souls; neither patronises its audience, both require experimentation and both only really come alive through the extended community, be it wiki sites, YT vids, or forums. Some people enjoy that (I love it; I'm sick of games hand-holding), others may not, i.e. that actual effort is required to get into and understand it.
That said, whilst DS's design is clearly intentionally oblique and stands as a creative statement, Elite's design seem to be defined more by its iterative project origins and the fact that it's spiritually beholden to decades old games. I didn't need to get my head around Elite Dangerous's concept as I played Frontier as a kid. Many other people wouldn't have that luxury, and yeah, I can't imagine how it'd come across to a rookie who doesn't have that, especially if they also don't enjoy the Dark Souls approach.
I remember in Morrowind once you'd created your character after hopping off the prison ship, you had a 'now you're on your own in the big wide world, what'll you do?'-style text prompt. Does ED even have such a thing, or does it just drop you into a Sidewinder and that's yer lot? I think a simple text prompt broadly outlining the basics of the future setting, and suggestions about what jobs you might like to take to try things out would be welcome for complete newcomers to the IP.
Having to watch [not especially informative] tutorial vids outside the main game via an iffy console browser is rather alienating, I feel, so perhaps in the starter system they could extend it by including tutorial missions, i.e. fixed content with added text pop-ups in-game or even narration (perhaps even like game commentary nodes, e.g. The Orange Box/L4D/Half-Life Episodes). So the player would be led from node to node, per role.
So instead of someone first heading to Youtube or these forums, they'd know that they could journey back to the starting system to initiate a mining, trading, or combat mission which will give step by step - relatively speaking - pointers. For example, selecting mining would prompt you to open the galaxy map and filter the correct economies to find places selling the necessary equipment.
Anyhoo, I suppose at this stage in the game's life it's far too late for such changes/additions, which is a shame; Elite's a rather esoteric and [simple-yet-]complex game, so ideally it should have the very best and most thorough of introductions. How many potential players and customers has it lost already, I wonder, due to the barrier to entry? It's a phenomenal product, but it needs every single possible player up for grabs, especially on console where I assume the playerbase is relatively tiny (the sooner the PS4 gets its release and crossplay is included, the better).
That said, whilst DS's design is clearly intentionally oblique and stands as a creative statement, Elite's design seem to be defined more by its iterative project origins and the fact that it's spiritually beholden to decades old games. I didn't need to get my head around Elite Dangerous's concept as I played Frontier as a kid. Many other people wouldn't have that luxury, and yeah, I can't imagine how it'd come across to a rookie who doesn't have that, especially if they also don't enjoy the Dark Souls approach.
I remember in Morrowind once you'd created your character after hopping off the prison ship, you had a 'now you're on your own in the big wide world, what'll you do?'-style text prompt. Does ED even have such a thing, or does it just drop you into a Sidewinder and that's yer lot? I think a simple text prompt broadly outlining the basics of the future setting, and suggestions about what jobs you might like to take to try things out would be welcome for complete newcomers to the IP.
Having to watch [not especially informative] tutorial vids outside the main game via an iffy console browser is rather alienating, I feel, so perhaps in the starter system they could extend it by including tutorial missions, i.e. fixed content with added text pop-ups in-game or even narration (perhaps even like game commentary nodes, e.g. The Orange Box/L4D/Half-Life Episodes). So the player would be led from node to node, per role.
So instead of someone first heading to Youtube or these forums, they'd know that they could journey back to the starting system to initiate a mining, trading, or combat mission which will give step by step - relatively speaking - pointers. For example, selecting mining would prompt you to open the galaxy map and filter the correct economies to find places selling the necessary equipment.
Anyhoo, I suppose at this stage in the game's life it's far too late for such changes/additions, which is a shame; Elite's a rather esoteric and [simple-yet-]complex game, so ideally it should have the very best and most thorough of introductions. How many potential players and customers has it lost already, I wonder, due to the barrier to entry? It's a phenomenal product, but it needs every single possible player up for grabs, especially on console where I assume the playerbase is relatively tiny (the sooner the PS4 gets its release and crossplay is included, the better).
Tbh, a lot of doctors recommend that seniors play video games. It is helpful for many reasons. Video games help keep hand/eye coordination sharp. They help maintain cognitive function and memory. The Wii entertainment system is used in a lot of senior homes and/or senior centers for exercise as well. It is low impact yet, rewards active behavior.
-Ozy
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I simply loved how hard this game was to start off with. Been playing for several months now and what a game this is.. its difficulty is matched only by how competent you are as a gamer.. good i say.. if this game were easy to play it would lose face and attract people who think having your hand held through a game is normal.. trust me when i say games have changed for the worse.. if young players could only realise what owning an Atari or console from yesteryear was like.. not being able to save, no manuals, repetetive grinding etc etc..
Hope horizons makes people 'want' to get good at this game so they can experience it in all its glory and an ode to addiction and almost second life status
Peace out CMDRs o7
Hope horizons makes people 'want' to get good at this game so they can experience it in all its glory and an ode to addiction and almost second life status
Peace out CMDRs o7
Hi,
I'm 52 been playing ED for about a month, and agree with the brick wall learning curve comments, (I played the original and still have it ! BBC Model B ) so was able to dock first time albeit with some extremely rusty reflexes in the 'refresher' tutorial. I found the tutorials adequate but would have loved a manual to be able to reference at the outset, I've subsequently found the PC one on line. The community support is astounding and I doff my cap to those who have created tutorials, regarding all aspects of the game thank you.
This game is all I remember it to be and so much more, I bought it at full price only for it to go on sale a month later and you know what, I've enjoyed it so much I don't mind. I second the post that called for more annotated beginner tutorials they'd have been useful, and I would suggest Frontier put up a more descriptive web page link from the X-Box store to a more detailed description of the game play and fundamentals so that potential buyers without previous knowledge of the game get a better understanding of what they're paying for. I like digging for the information I need to succeed, but there's no reason to stint on the basic tutorials, after all you don't have to use them if you don't want to. I have yet to get a grip on Factions / Power Play / CQC and Community Goals, this game has kept me coming back for more and I've hardly scratched the surface. I'm looking forward to the Horizons expansion with great anticipation.
Overall as with anything worth while you get more out of this game the more your willing to put in, 'Grinding' for credits to get the next better ship is only one way to approach the game there are other approaches and swapping 'Professions' is easily done by a refit which is what I love about it.
Requiem Mortis
"If you're not living on the edge your taking up too much room"
I'm 52 been playing ED for about a month, and agree with the brick wall learning curve comments, (I played the original and still have it ! BBC Model B ) so was able to dock first time albeit with some extremely rusty reflexes in the 'refresher' tutorial. I found the tutorials adequate but would have loved a manual to be able to reference at the outset, I've subsequently found the PC one on line. The community support is astounding and I doff my cap to those who have created tutorials, regarding all aspects of the game thank you.
This game is all I remember it to be and so much more, I bought it at full price only for it to go on sale a month later and you know what, I've enjoyed it so much I don't mind. I second the post that called for more annotated beginner tutorials they'd have been useful, and I would suggest Frontier put up a more descriptive web page link from the X-Box store to a more detailed description of the game play and fundamentals so that potential buyers without previous knowledge of the game get a better understanding of what they're paying for. I like digging for the information I need to succeed, but there's no reason to stint on the basic tutorials, after all you don't have to use them if you don't want to. I have yet to get a grip on Factions / Power Play / CQC and Community Goals, this game has kept me coming back for more and I've hardly scratched the surface. I'm looking forward to the Horizons expansion with great anticipation.
Overall as with anything worth while you get more out of this game the more your willing to put in, 'Grinding' for credits to get the next better ship is only one way to approach the game there are other approaches and swapping 'Professions' is easily done by a refit which is what I love about it.
Requiem Mortis
"If you're not living on the edge your taking up too much room"
My research actually shows that it's giving up cargo to pirates.
Idk, that's in the running with not griefing and murdering noobs for some people lol.
dayrth
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There is a manual. There is a link to it in the launcher. You can find it here: http://hosting.zaonce.net/elite/website/assets/English-PlayersGuidev1.04-INTERACTIVE.pdf
Page 47 covers docking and does tell you about the compass showing you the way to the pad.
You may have been a bit quick to give up on the game because of lack of instructions. Everything you need to get started is in the manual and/or covers by the tutorials. You are right about the forums though. Anything you cant find or don't understand, a quick question here will normally get you the answer.
Page 47 covers docking and does tell you about the compass showing you the way to the pad.
You may have been a bit quick to give up on the game because of lack of instructions. Everything you need to get started is in the manual and/or covers by the tutorials. You are right about the forums though. Anything you cant find or don't understand, a quick question here will normally get you the answer.
I'm sorry OP, but if you're asking for a refund same day you bought the game, it obviously shows you wouldn't like Elite Dangerous. You need far more patience when having your adventures out there, deep in the void.
This game is to be player for years - whats bad in learning about everything around for the 1st few weeks then?? All your skills in RL you have to learn before using them and we are taking about sim software here (fallowing RL rules as close as it can be done) dont we? And you just gave up after 1 day...
Good luck out there almost-Commander!!
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This game is to be player for years - whats bad in learning about everything around for the 1st few weeks then?? All your skills in RL you have to learn before using them and we are taking about sim software here (fallowing RL rules as close as it can be done) dont we? And you just gave up after 1 day...
Good luck out there almost-Commander!!
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...plus this!!!
I bought this during the sale too and my experience is the polar opposite of yours. I started googling stuff I was stumped on and now I'm addicted.
What's weird is that when ED first came out in the Preview Program I downloaded the demo and thought "eh". Now is a different story.
I'm super hyped for Horizons and beyond!
I even got two buddies to pick it up. One is also hooked, the other hasn't played it yet.
What's weird is that when ED first came out in the Preview Program I downloaded the demo and thought "eh". Now is a different story.
I'm super hyped for Horizons and beyond!
I even got two buddies to pick it up. One is also hooked, the other hasn't played it yet.
fortunately haven't ran into this yet lolMy research actually shows that it's giving up cargo to pirates.
OP: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Guide
Full manual. Quickstart manual. Pilot's Guide.
This is the same manual that Dayrth pointed out is linked on the launcher, plus other helpful docs.
But as others have pointed out if you lack the patience to last day one you would not fair well subsequently. It is surprising though, what with you being a 'pretty experienced sim player'.
Maybe rebuy while it's on sale and remember we're here. Ciao for now.
Full manual. Quickstart manual. Pilot's Guide.
This is the same manual that Dayrth pointed out is linked on the launcher, plus other helpful docs.
But as others have pointed out if you lack the patience to last day one you would not fair well subsequently. It is surprising though, what with you being a 'pretty experienced sim player'.
Maybe rebuy while it's on sale and remember we're here. Ciao for now.
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In my best broad Yorkshire accent...
I remember when I were a lad, I could go t' shops with a quid and get a loaf o bread and a few pints o milk.
I'd come home with my Oric 1 monthly mag and spend the rest of the weekend typing out 5000 lines of code so I could play Road Frog for an hour before bed on a Sunday.
Kids these days have it easy eh?
I remember when I were a lad, I could go t' shops with a quid and get a loaf o bread and a few pints o milk.
I'd come home with my Oric 1 monthly mag and spend the rest of the weekend typing out 5000 lines of code so I could play Road Frog for an hour before bed on a Sunday.
Kids these days have it easy eh?
A quid? LUXURY! etc etc
I remember those days. Patience seems in short supply these days. Which is a shame when it means you miss out on a pure diamond like ED
Umm...Are you me??? Because this is exactly to ever single detail the same experience I have had with ED (the 2 buddies thing and all) xD