Would you pay for....

Kaltern

Kaltern
(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Kaltern said:
(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?
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I'd draw the line when no in-game requirements need to be met. Plus, no combat ship should ever be behind a paywall.
 

Conch

Conch
if we are going to pay for ships and stuff like it, im out.

im fine with paying for paintjobs and such, but ships and SRVs is crossing the line.
 

iFred

I
Kaltern said:
Where would you draw the line?
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at 0,00

Why? Because: LTP

Means: Any P2W-Content will lead to an instant uninstall and a refund-claim.

This was already discussed during kickstarter. And it was a final decision by FD that something like that will NEVER happen (IIRC).

/thread
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Kaltern said:
(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?
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I would feel as if somehow I stumbled into Star Citizen, and would terminate my account immediately and return to No Man's Sky without ever looking back.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
I think people are missing the point of the OP. We are already paying for ships. What is the difference between paying $40 for a season, which includes exclusive ships, or just paying for the ship and not the rest? The difference between this and SC is that in SC you immediately own the ship. In ED, you'd still have to unlock it/pay for credits/rank etc.
 
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Stealthie

Stealthie
No pay-to-win, thanks.

Wouldn't be averse to them offering, say, special versions of existing ships with unique paint-jobs or kits.
Not sure whether that'd be worth their while on a purely commercial basis though.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
J
Kaltern said:
(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?
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Would it be possible to pay for some deep and interesting gameplay please? If they did a DLC for that I'd probably buy it ;)

As for a season pass - they way this "season" was handled no way. The content and delivery don't match the price tag.
 

verminstar

Banned
verminstar
Probably yeah...hardly the first game in which Ive done just that, though this will be a minority choice. In total, Ive spent all of a brick here...bout a hundred fer 3 accounts and various paints and kits...last game I played, I spent a touch under 3 grand on ships and premium ammo because the game was pvp based only with the background simulation nothing more than an excuse fer free to play players who took the long road ^
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
J
sleutelbos said:
I think people are missing the point of the OP. We are already paying for ships. What is the difference between paying $40 for a season, which includes exclusive ships, or just paying for the ship and not the rest? The difference between this and SC is that in SC you immediately own the ship. In ED, you'd still have to unlock it/pay for credits/rank etc.
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Not only that but you're also paying for mods which make you 100 times more powerful than a non-horizons player and yet both share the same universe. That would be like letting premium tier 10 tanks into tier one games in World of Tanks.
 

bubbabenali

B
No, it's sad enough that we only get some bare bone vanity with ingame achievements - as in signets for our three ranks.

Leave that buy power with "funding"money for SC pls.
 
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KING5TON

KING5TON
iFred said:
Any P2W-Content will lead to an instant uninstall and a refund-claim.
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But Engineers is P2W?

Engineers massively boost your ships.
If two exact same ships piloted by cmdrs with roughly the same skill level are compared, one Engineered and one without Engineering (because the user doesn't have Horizons) who's going to win a fight 99.9999999% of the time?
The Engineered ship.

Thus Horizons is P2W. If you haven't paid for Horizons you will loose to a player that has Horizons and engineered their ship.

The only argument I can see against this is that you don't automatically get to win, you've got to grind a lot too to win. It's still P2W though since the cmdr without Horizons cannot engineer their ship at all.
At a push I'd change it's definition to P2G2W (Pay to grind to win).

Let us know how the refund goes ;)
 
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iFred

I
KING5TON said:
But Engineers is P2W?

Engineers massively boost your ships.
If two exact same ships piloted by cmdrs with roughly the same skill level are compared, one Engineered and one without Engineering (because the user doesn't have Horizons) who's going to win a fight 99.9999999% of the time?
The Engineered ship.

Thus Horizons is P2W. If you haven't paid for Horizons you will loose to a player that has Horizons and engineered their ship.

The only argument I can see against this is that you don't automatically get to win, you've got to grind a lot too to win. It's still P2W though since the cmdr without Horizons cannot engineer their ship at all.
At a push I'd change it's definition to P2G2W (Pay to grind to win).

Let us know how the refund goes ;)
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Lol. You clearly understand what you are talking about :)
 
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