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[adoredtv]

amd has gone the way of the dodo...for gaming that is

nvidia has the market share, the power, the cash. they put their tech in to the game devs hands and it pays dividends for us.

It pays dividends for who? The juddering lagfest that is VR because Nvidia cards don't have the required hardware to do the job properly? That you pay 75% more for a GTX 980 that is what, 10% faster than a 290X?

then there is the GPU's which im not too familliar with the differences, but there is good reason they are using 980s and titan X for oculus CV demos at the recent shows...

Who was using 980's and Titan X?

Do you know Oculus is ditching their own "Direct Mode" for AMD's Direct-To-Display?



Do you know that ALL the upcoming Oculus improvements like latest data latch, rolling shutter and async timewarp have come from collaboration with AMD?



Do you know that Valve got double the performance on Vive with Crossfired AMD cards and still haven't got anything from Nvidia?



2 hours to do something that Nvidia has been talking about for 6 months.

Oculus's main driver guy had this to say about AMD's VR -



I mean how much evidence do you need? You have Oculus and Valve telling you that Nvidia is basically nowhere on VR. The best we get from Nvidia is that you can expect 40-50% if lucky with VR SLI when AMD has already been tested on Vive at double that - that means that at best they'll have the same performance with their high-end SLI that AMD will get with their mid-range Crossfire. This is not stuff that is easy to fix, especially when you don't have the hardware.

As a bonus, guess what Oculus says about Nvidias VR Direct?

https://answers.oculus.com/questions/76/is-nvidia-working-with-oculus-to-implement-vr-dire.html

"VR Direct" is a term NVIDIA introduced in September at the time of the Maxwell launch. Very few details have emerged. We haven't worked with them on it.

the flagship amd card right now is not as powerful as a $350 gtx 970...

The flagship AMD card beats the Titan X by around 20%.

 

[adoredtv]

Sorry for hijacking the thread

I cannot abide bad tech information and advice. Sorry, I just can't handle it being heavily involved in the industry and seeing marketing overpower really good tech is just a tragedy.

 

[CMDR Holycow]

DONT buy new GPUs. See if you can get a good experience, even on low settings, with your current SLI setup. If so, run that until the new architecture comes out. Buying GPUs today might mean you need another upgrade when/if you get a CV1... which you will of course do. If you can't even get by on your current setup, then yeah... i would recommend maybe 970s in sli as a "get by" setup... or something. The CV1 will be twice as demanding as the DK2.... so my recommendation is really to plan for the next itteration, and don't overdo it for the dk2

 

[Jericho]

It pays dividends for who? The juddering lagfest that is VR because Nvidia cards don't have the required hardware to do the job properly? That you pay 75% more for a GTX 980 that is what, 10% faster than a 290X?



Who was using 980's and Titan X?

Do you know Oculus is ditching their own "Direct Mode" for AMD's Direct-To-Display?

Do you know that ALL the upcoming Oculus improvements like latest data latch, rolling shutter and async timewarp have come from collaboration with AMD?

Do you know that Valve got double the performance on Vive with Crossfired AMD cards and still haven't got anything from Nvidia?


2 hours to do something that Nvidia has been talking about for 6 months.

Oculus's main driver guy had this to say about AMD's VR -

I mean how much evidence do you need? You have Oculus and Valve telling you that Nvidia is basically nowhere on VR. The best we get from Nvidia is that you can expect 40-50% if lucky with VR SLI when AMD has already been tested on Vive at double that - that means that at best they'll have the same performance with their high-end SLI that AMD will get with their mid-range Crossfire. This is not stuff that is easy to fix, especially when you don't have the hardware.

As a bonus, guess what Oculus says about Nvidias VR Direct?

The flagship AMD card beats the Titan X by around 20%.

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Why couldn't you just respond with this instead of calling the guy an idiot?
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Great info, thanks for sharing...... but you lost this youtube subscriber for being a jerk.
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EDIT: Congrats to you JayKay.... welcome to the club!

 

[NoshDaMinsk]

Make sure you update us on how the experience has gone - I love to read about peeps first experience of the DK2 and ED.........

Enjoy - you will love it!

Nosh

 

[adoredtv]

See?
Why couldn't you just respond with this instead of calling the guy an idiot?

If you had any idea how often I've read this kind of crap when trying to discuss the actual tech you'd maybe understand. The reason is simply because when people enter threads with that kind of stuff, they have no desire to discuss the actual topic themselves. It's literally impossible to talk about AMD in this forum without some guy bringing it down with a bunch of . What's more, many of them do it deliberately to rile others.

Do you think his rant was adding anything useful to the thread?

Great info, thanks for sharing...... but you lost this youtube subscriber for being a jerk.

Again, if you had to spend time and effort trying to help people (cuz you know this is supposed to be about helping people make informed choices based on the actual facts re VR) only to have others attempt to negate that info with the same tired about "drivers", "poor quality", "installing nasty stuff" (that's a new one, what's next causing cancer?) then again, maybe you'd understand.

I'm not making this stuff up, I'm simply passing the message on - a message that others are attempting to bury under the same tired old anti-AMD .

Understand one thing - I fully realise that a lot of this is very unpopular reading because the vast majority of people in this forum are using Nvidia cards. I am well aware that a lot of this information is making people feel bad, however I cannot idly sit by and allow others to give the wrong information just so that Nvidia can continue to make the wrong decisions re VR, and people can waste money on the losing VR side. I am simply the messenger - nothing I am telling people can change the fact that Nvidia has really dropped the ball big time in VR and they are years from fixing their issues. Again, this is information from Oculus and Valve and even Nvidia themselves - not me.

So you go ahead an do what you have to do and I'll go ahead and do what I have to do - but I won't be silenced on important tech matters by the threat of losing subs.

 

[adoredtv]

Don't speak to me like that.

Right, I apologise for insinuating that you were an idiot. Let's discuss the issues you've been having instead.

You say you've been using AMD and Nvidia for 10 years, can you tell me what hardware you've had from each?

Can you explain to me what you mean by Nvidia being "easy and simple" and AMD "giving problems some of the time"?

I've already covered the drivers point above but maybe you can tell me what you mean about "better quality parts"?

And lastly, "don't trust AMD they install nasty stuff" - that's certainly new to me and I'd like to know what you meant by it.

You understand that I too, have personally used and sold very many AMD and Nvidia products over the last 10 years and all of this is new to me, so forgive me for thinking that it was more likely to be user error than anything actually wrong with AMD parts.

 

[Mark D]

Jaykay has it arrived yet?

 

[nameBrandon]

Did it make it in? Very excited for you and to hear what you think

FWIW, I went from a dual 280X setup to a 980 GTX. Even though it was technically a step down, the mess of having to worry about crossfire is not worth it for most games. I've also got a 4930k and the combination of the two work fantastic.

If you plan on playing with both monitor and DK2 (I swap between them, as I wear glasses) search for EDDS. It's a simple GUI that lets you save settings for each setup (Rift vs Monitor), including HUD colors, etc.. Makes it very easy to just have a one button click to configure ED for each setup.

 

[Jaykay]

I will write a separate full detailed post on my first experience with the Rift later when I get time but I will just say that even though I knew it would be good it exceeded my expectations by 200% and I was totally blown away, almost to the point of getting emotional! Absolutely stunning, just wish I'd got one sooner

 

[SlackR]

I will write a separate full detailed post on my first experience with the Rift later when I get time but I will just say that even though I knew it would be good it exceeded my expectations by 200% and I was totally blown away, almost to the point of getting emotional! Absolutely stunning, just wish I'd got one sooner

Once you try it ... You can never go back!