25 Essential Terrestrial Birds META-WISHLIST

UCKX

UCKX
There is a very small amount of terrestrial birds in the game, or birds of that matter. So, I ask you, which habitat birds (you can write 25 or less) would you like to see in the game.

25 animals, no more, but can be less.
any birds that prefers to fly will not be counted in list, the kind of birds you can request are:
ratites, fowls, flamingos, grebes, ground pigeons, mesites, sangrouse, bustards, roadrunners, rails and cranes, sea birds, sunbittern and kagu, loons, albatrosses and petrels, penguins, storks, pelicans and herons, comorants and boobies, secretary bird, roadrunner, seriemas, ground hornbills, ground woodpecker, and ground parrots.
You can only make one list, and any second list won't be counted.
If you want to edit your list, reply your changes.
Your birds are in order from the ones you want the most and the one you want the least.
You may put no especific species (eg. writing duck) but this will be counted to the highest species on the wishlist of that matter (eg. mandarin duck).
No extinct species.

1. Secretary Bird
2. Mandarin Duck
3. Emu
4. Northern Island Brown Kiwi
5. Ocelated Turkey
6. Any Guineafowl
7. Mute Swan
8. Western Crowned Pigeon
9. South Island Takahe
10. Greater Roadrunner
11. Southern Chinstrap Penguin
12. Marabou Stork
13. Great White Pelican
14. Grey Crowned Crane
15. Egyptian Goose
17. Shoebill
18. Any Spoonbill
19. Wandering Albatross
20. Kea
21. Any Comorant
22. Any sand Grouse
23. Any Heron
24. Dwarf Cassowary
25. Any gull / seagull
Spot in META-WISHLIST:Bird:Requests:
1.Secretary Bird5
2.Emu4
3.Grey Crowned Crane4
4.North Island Brown Kiwi4
5.Shoebill4
6.Black Swan3
7.Greater Rhea3
8.Greater Roadrunner3
9.Roseated Spoonbill2
10.Victoria Crowned Pigeon2
11.Great White Pelican2
12.Mute Swan2
13.Helmeted Guineafowl2
14.Southern Rockhopper Penguin2
15.Southern Ground Hornbill2
16.Superb Lyrebird2
17.Golden Pheasant2
18.Eastern Wild Turkey2
19.Mallard2
20.American Flamingo2
21.Wood Duck2
22.Scarlet Ibis2
23.Great Egret2
24.Gentoo Penguin1
25.Bar-Headed Goose1
26.Painted Stork1
27.Red Jungle Fowl1
28.Orinoco Goose1
29.Green Peafowl1
30.South Island Takahe1
31.Himalayan Monal1
32.Muscovy Duck1
33.Blue Footed Booby1
34.Little Blue Penguin1
35.Bush Stone Curley1
36.Cape Barren Goose1
37.Magpie Goose1
38.Mandarin Duck1
39.White Faced Whistling Duck1
40.Lady's Amherst's Pheasant1
41.King Eider1
42.Snow Goose1
43.Ocelated Turkey1
44.Sandhill Crane1
45.Great Blue Heron1
46.Ring Necked Pheasant1
47.Canadian Goose1
48.Greater Prairie Chicken1
49.Kori Bustard1
50.Brown Pelican1
51.White Stork1
 
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YesIndeed

YesIndeed
1. Road runner
2. Shoebill
3. Secretary Bird
4. Emu
5. North Island Brown Kiwi
6. Victoria crowned Pigeon
7. Guinea fowl
8. Grey Crowned crane
9. Bush stone curlew
10. Spoonbill

I know you said 25 but I think in terms of terrestrial birds we would get like 15 more Max. The main things we don't have yet are thin long legged wandering birds like the secretary or curlew. I think the most important though is the Kiwi to get for new Zealand rep.
 

UCKX

UCKX
YesIndeed said:
1. Road runner
2. Shoebill
3. Secretary Bird
4. Emu
5. North Island Brown Kiwi
6. Victoria crowned Pigeon
7. Guinea fowl
8. Grey Crowned crane
9. Bush stone curlew
10. Spoonbill

I know you said 25 but I think in terms of terrestrial birds we would get like 15 more Max. The main things we don't have yet are thin long legged wandering birds like the secretary or curlew. I think the most important though is the Kiwi to get for new Zealand rep.
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it is ok to leave it on 10!
 

SuzieSky

SuzieSky
Habitat Bird List:
  1. Grey Crowned Crane
  2. Mandarin Duck
  3. Mute Swan
  4. Scarlet Ibis*
  5. Greater Rhea
  6. Eastern Wild Turkey
  7. Rockhopper Penguin
  8. Southern Ground Hornbill
  9. Emu
  10. Golden Pheasant*
  11. Helmeted Guineafowl
  12. North Island Brown Kiwi*
  13. Roseate Spoonbill*
  14. Black Swan
  15. Lady Amherst’s Pheasant*
  16. Wood Duck
  17. Secretary Bird
  18. Blue-Footed Booby*
  19. Painted Stork
  20. Pelican*
  21. Bar-Headed Goose
  22. Great Egret
  23. Red Junglefowl
  24. Orinoco Goose
  25. Green Peafowl
*I could also see this as an aviary/exhibit bird. Either would be appreciated.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
It's tough to make a list without knowing how Frontier will handle birds going forward. The WE exhibit gives us a hint of a hint, but all it really shows is how they're handling bats.

  1. North Island brown kiwi.
  2. South Island takahe.
  3. Great white pelican.
  4. Himalayan monal.
  5. Mute swan.
  6. Superb lyrebird.
  7. Gentoo penguin.
  8. Little blue penguin.
  9. Southern rockhopper penguin.
  10. Secretarybird.
  11. Grey crowned crane.
  12. Southern ground hornbill.
  13. Darwin's rhea.
  14. Emu.
  15. Golden pheasant.
  16. Victoria crowned pigeon.
  17. Cape Barren goose.
  18. Magpie goose.
  19. Black swan.
  20. Mallard.
  21. White-faced whistling duck.
  22. Helmeted guineafowl.
  23. American flamingo.
  24. Shoebill.
  25. King eider.
SuzieSky said:
North Island Brown Kiwi*
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SuzieSky said:
*I could also see this as an aviary/exhibit bird. Either would be appreciated.
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Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
I know you said 25, gonna give you 10
One of the problems I had with the aviary meta list was it meant too many of the same birds being requested.
1. Emu
2. Shoebill
3. Muscovy ducks
4. Rhea
5. Greater roadrunner
6. Superb Lyrebird
7. Snow goose
8. Black swan
9. Secretary bird
10. Ocellated Turkey
 

FusionBolt21

F
25 may be a tad bit too many to list, but I'll give it a shot (in no particular order)

1. Secretary bird
2. Emu
3. Rhea
4. Wild turkey
5. Greater roadrunner
6. Rockhopper Penguin
7. Grey Crowned Crane
8. Kiwi
9. Shoebill
10. Sandhill crane
11. Great Blue Heron
12. Mallard duck
13. Common/ring necked pheasant
14. American Flamingo
15. Scarlet Ibis
16. Mute swan
17. Wood duck
18. Canada goose
19. Great egret
20. Greater Prairie Chicken
21. Kori bustard
22. Gentoo penguin
23. White stork
24. Brown pelican
25. Roseate spoonbill

Okay, I lied, 25 might be a few too many haha. My list has a slight overrepresentation of semi-aquatic birds, but I think a lot of these could be sprinkled in with existing species for added interspecies enrichment.
 

Chuditch

Chuditch
  1. North Island Brown Kiwi
  2. Emu
  3. Greater Rhea
  4. Malleefowl
  5. Maleo
  6. Great Curassow
  7. Helmeted Guineafowl
  8. Lady Amherst's Pheasant
  9. Southern Screamer
  10. Magpie Goose
  11. Black Swan
  12. Cape Barren Goose
  13. Nene
  14. White-faced Whistling-duck
  15. Mandarin Duck
  16. Little Penguin
  17. Gentoo Penguin
  18. Shoebill
  19. Australian Pelican
  20. Secretary Bird
  21. Brolga
  22. Kagu
  23. Red-legged Seriema
  24. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
  25. Superb Lyrebird
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
I will support anything that points out the obvious lack of birds in this game, so I will join in. And it looks like we also quite agree on which types of birds should function in a habitat, so that is nice:

1. Great White Pelican
2. Emu
3. Darwin's Rhea
4. Northern Brown Kiwi
5. Secretary Bird
6. Southern Screamer
7. Roadrunner
8. Victoria's Crowned Pidgeon
9. Helmeted Guineafowl
10. Vulturine Guineafowl
11. Kea
12. Wild Turkey
13. Northern Bald Ibis
14. Scarlett Ibis
15. American Flamingo
16. Rockhopper Penguin
17. Golden Pheasant
18. Hawaiian Goose
19. Mandarin Duck
20. Grey Crowned Crane
21. Cape Barren Goose
22. Black Swan
23. Western Capercaillie
24. Roseate Spoonbill
25. White Stork

I want to keep going...
 

PnGLINNyo

PnGLINNyo
1. Great White Pelican
2. Emu
3. Darwin's Rhea
4. North Island Brown Kiwi
5. Himalayan Monal
6. Silver Pheasant
7. Greater Rhea
8. Indochinese Green Peafowl
9. Helmeted Guineafowl
10. Vulturine Guineafowl
11. Secretary Bird
12. (Eastern) Wild Turkey
13. Svalbard Rock Ptarmigan
14. Chilean Flamingo
15. American Flamingo
16. Southern Rockhopper Penguin
17. Golden Pheasant
18. Hawaiian Goose
19. Mandarin Duck
20. Grey Crowned Crane
21. Shoebill
22. Black Swan
23. Victorian Crowned Pigeon
24. Red Junglefowl
25. White Stork
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
NZFanatic said:
Kea are not ground parrots and definitely prefer to fly.
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They were listed in the example post, so that is why I went with them.

As far as I remember, I have only seen them move around on the ground and rocks in zoos, usually busy with some enrichment.
I would rather have them spending too much time on the ground than have them flying in a loop too much
 
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NZFanatic

NZFanatic
SalamAnders said:
They were listed in the example post, so that is why I went with them.

As far as I remember, I have only seen them move around on the ground and rocks in zoos, usually busy with some enrichment.
I would rather have them spending too much time on the ground than have them flying in a loop too much
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They are aviary birds in every zoo and they fly quite often, usually from point-to-point. To be frank, if the kea is a habitat animal, then so is literally any other bird, since within the captive environment barely any of them actually fly all that much. I've worked with them myself (Willowbank Wildlife Reserve; both keas and scarlet/blue-and-gold macaws, and both were essentially the same in terms of overall behaviour).

OP is wrong to include them.
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
NZFanatic said:
They are aviary birds in every zoo and they fly quite often, usually from point-to-point.
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No doubt about that. A lot of the birds that can be listed here are usually found in aviaries, but I think it is more a matter of how believable they would behave in the game than how they would be housed in real life. Both with the habitat system and with the walk-through system it is possible to make it either realistic or unrealistic.

But I would still argue they spend more time on the ground than parrots like macaws. I don't think I have ever seen a macaw on the ground, but most keas I have seen have been moving around on the ground/rocks. A lot of the YouTube videos I can find of keas in captivity show the same. I'm not trying to question your experience with them or anything, but we just got different points of view on this. Aviaries for Keas tend to be rather small in Europe, this could maybe be why I and others on the forum do not see them fly often. On short distances walking or climbing from A to B might be easier than flying.

None of the options we currently have are ideal for a kea. But to me, a kea would be more believable moving around on the ground and on climbing structures and being able to use enrichment items (and hopefully some kind of point-to-point flight could happen in habitats over time, but nobody knows), than it would in an exhibit where it would be sitting still on a branch or only going from A to B or be constantly in the air.
To me, the exhibit system as it currently is seems more ideal for small birds, especially those living in bigger groups, birds that sit still a lot like owls and a lot of birds of prey, and birds that fly a lot.

I can easily find another bird to replace it, but I will let OP decide if that is necessary
 
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NZFanatic

NZFanatic
SalamAnders said:
No doubt about that.
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Feel free to doubt, but there's no other way to put it than by saying you're still wrong. They are aviary birds, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Putting them anywhere else would just let them fly away. I also don't see the point in giving OP the final say, since OP is also wrong. It's the blind leading the blind.
SalamAnders said:
None of the options we currently have are ideal for a kea.
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The walkthrough exhibit is literally perfect for them, since in every zoo in New Zealand they are walkthrough aviary animals, and given that they are an endemic species here you can bet that our standard of care for kea is superior to most other countries. It's enough space for them to fly from point to point which is what they do in real aviaries, and the exhibit props could easily be designed around their 'hopping' behaviour as you put it.

Having them walk around on the ground like peafowl would be the stupidest thing ever.
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
NZFanatic said:
They are aviary birds, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Putting them anywhere else would just let them fly away.
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The same can be said about Victoria's Crowned Pidgeon. You are fine with them in habitats.

We don't have official aviaries right now. We only got options to make stuff appear like aviaries if we like. The game allows us to keep bats open-air afterall.
In habitats the keas are likely to fly less than they would in real life. In exhibits, they are likely to fly more than they would in real life. What is preferred is a matter of taste. In the end, I don't mind them in exhibits too much, they could turn out better than expected. Just not my preferred option.

It is possible to disagree on this, without saying other people's opinions are wrong. Nobody is claiming keas can't fly, you don't need to prove it with a picture.
NZFanatic said:
The walkthrough exhibit is literally perfect for them, since in every zoo in New Zealand they are walkthrough aviary animals, and given that they are an endemic species here you can bet that our standard of care for kea is superior to most other countries.
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In most zoos in Europe, they aren't walk-throughs, both things can exist at once. And nobody is questioning how you take care of them in NZ.
But if a nuanced debate is impossible, then I would rather stay out of it.
 
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AlexSea

AlexSea
  1. Secretary Bird
  2. Emu
  3. Southern Rockhopper Penguin
  4. Little Blue Penguin
  5. North Island Brown Kiwi
  6. South Island Takahe
  7. Adelie Penguin
  8. Greater Rhea
  9. Golden Pheasant
  10. Kori Bustard
  11. Grey Crowned Crane
  12. Whooping Crane
  13. Shoebill
  14. Helmeted Guineafowl
  15. Jabiru
  16. Greater Roadrunner
  17. Burrowing Owl
  18. Mandarin Duck
  19. Dalmatian Pelican
  20. Black Swan
  21. American Flamingo
  22. Nene
  23. Himalayan Monal
  24. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
  25. Superb Lyrebird
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
1. Ocellated turkey
2. Bar-headed goose
3. Great white pelican
4. Southern ground hornbill
5. Grey-winged trumpeter
6. Victoria crowned pigeon
7. Grey crowned crane
8. White-headed duck
9. Kori bustard
10. Secretary bird
11. North Island brown kiwi
12. Eurasian oystercatcher
13. North Island brown kiwi
14. Emu
15. Greater rhea
16. Black-necked swan
17. Himalayan monal
18. Vulturine guineafowl
19. Crested wood partridge
20. Red junglefowl
21. African spoonbill
22. Northern bald ibis
23. Chilean flamingo
24. Saddle-billed stork
25. Elegant crested tinamou
 
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TheDuckKnight

TheDuckKnight
LONG HAVE I WAITED.

1. Mallard Duck
2. Wood Duck
3. Mandarin Duck
4. Rockhopper Penguin
5. North Island Brown Kiwi
6. Atlantic Puffin
7. Eastern Wild Turkey
8. Scarlet Ibis
9. Burrowing Owl
10. Roseate Spoonbill
11. Brown Pelican
12. Great White Pelican
13. Roadrunner
14. Red Junglefowl
15. Helmeted Guineafowl
16. Little Blue Penguin
17. Ocellated Turkey
18. Black Swan
19. Southern Ground Hornbill
20. Grey Crowned Crane
21. Western Capercaillie
22. Marabou Stork
23. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
24. Himalayan Monal
25. Trumpeter Swan

Emu, Shoebill, and Secretary Bird are all honorable mentions - but they don't need my help :p
 
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