Update 14 and Beyond: Live and Legacy Modes

tanner1ie

tanner1ie
Sunyavadin said:
What about all the bugs which were introduced by "Odyssey compatibility updates" in preparation for merging 3.8 and 4.0?
I know a bunch of XBox cmdrs who would really like to be able to buy the cool clothing for use in Holo-me that was removed from sale in anticipation of 3.8 moving to the odyssey version of the store, but is still equippable if you owned it previously.
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Indeed while another "bug" many of us would like to see "fixed" is the availability of the Cobra mark IV!!

Surely at this stage, there's no point in keeping it exclusive to the limited number of people that bought Horizons by X date on PC and Xbox, while those of us on Playstation and anybody who started playing the game "late", never got the chance to buy the ship!

Something that rather rubs salt in the wounds of those who can't buy it, is that, NPCs on PS4 can fly the ship but we can't!! 😯😂
(Did they "buy" the game before us?! 😯😂)

Similarly any other exclusives, such as paint jobs etc should be thrown to the masses at this stage (and made available for any and all ships, where possible), for example, I don't begrudge anybody else getting the exclusive gold Sidewinder skin we got for pre-ordering the PS4 version etc...

While away from such exclusives, it'd be great if all of us that will be shoved into "legacy" mode tomorrow received SOME new content, either ported from "live" mode, or even "God" forbid, developed exclusively for us, which could then be ported into "live" mode itself!

Whether such work would be done secondarily by the core development team once they do whatever they wish with "live" mode, or perhaps even better, if a new secondary group of Devs were moved or hired to work exclusively on "legacy" mode, so we all get a full and complete experience from the game again 😯😀🤘🤞
 
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Sakashiro

Sakashiro
Old Duck said:
It just sucks if we current 3.8 players have to install another 50 GB of unused data to keep playing the game we already own.
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If you want to avoid the 50 GB download, I suggest disabling automatic updates for ED in Steam before the beginning of the downtime. When the update for client 3.8 is available, you can download it through the Frontier launcher.

If tomorrow we find out that client 4.0 is packaged as a DLC in Steam, you can uncheck it there and then re-enable automatic updates. Otherwise leave auto-updates disabled. You need Steam only for authentication.

Edit: Actually it's not that easy. Steam won't let you launch the game unless it's up to date, and if you run the Frontier launcher without Steam, it will ask you to authenticate with your Frontier account. That authentication process will fail every time, i.e. the verification codes sent to your email address won't work, probably because the Frontier account is linked to Steam. You can unlink it, but this is something I haven't tried.
 
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Rebel Yell

Rebel Yell
Jabo Zerstorer said:
The Graphics downgrade is subjective on your part. I personally think they're improved.
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Space combat visuals in EDO are terrible, besides the improved effects it is almost impossible to play without NV activated unless the instance is so close to a star that your ship will very likely burn. We used to publish Horizons PvP combat videos, now looking at EDO ones they are awful to watch and to post produce given there's no color depth and a lot of pixellated crap in slo-mo.

Also is defo objective for additional stuff: considering that players have paid for something that it is either different when they've purchased it (i.e. metallic/gloss paintjobs) or not even noticeable (thrusters smoke trail color).
 

cmdr milesred

cmdr milesred
I love combat in horizons
the effects are great
my Imperial Hammers
My Beams
My MC's
all look and sound great

same ship in edo, have to turn off the multicanons so I CAN SEE something besides all the bright white flashing from the bullets.
as I always suspected the MC class 4 uses volkswagons for ammo, it makes sense now.

can't see rails at all
beam looks as though it never hits the target...
target still dies but zero joy in it
the explosions afterward are overkill but no big deal.
I like to use night vision but why? all it does now is super pixelate everything and seriously creates stutter.

then I turn my graphics to VR Low.....and its actually tolerable.
but good luck seeing an paint or decent color then. still a fair sacrifice
still way over pixelated for many things but much better.
going back to 640 x 480 16bit. make it feel how it looks....
 

aRJay

aRJay
Kort said:
Quick question. After update 14 the "Live" mode will be Odyssey only and Horizons is "Legacy" only and only Odyssey will get content updates and improvements. Correct?
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Sort of.

Live will be Odyssey and Odyssey lite aka Horizons 4.0

Legacy will be Horizons 3.8

Live gets content and CGs

Legacy gets some bug fixes

All IIRC
 

Kort

K
aRJay said:
Sort of.

Live will be Odyssey and Odyssey lite aka Horizons 4.0

Legacy will be Horizons 3.8

Live gets content and CGs

Legacy gets some bug fixes

All IIRC
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Thanks. The post mentions to have the live version installed before the update to avoid a 50GB download. How do I know what version I have now? I have Odyssey and Horizons launchers and the launcher currently doesn't prompt me to update.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Kort said:
Thanks. The post mentions to have the live version installed before the update to avoid a 50GB download. How do I know what version I have now? I have Odyssey and Horizons launchers and the launcher currently doesn't prompt me to update.
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If you have Odyssey or Horizons 4.0 installed then you will only need the 5 GB update if you have only the original version of Horizons then you need the 50 GB version.
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
aRJay said:
If you have Odyssey or Horizons 4.0 installed then you will only need the 5 GB update if you have only the original version of Horizons then you need the 50 GB version.
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That's what I said, but people keep telling me "no". I guess I'll have to wait and see. If I need to install 50 GB 4.0 in order to keep playing 3.8, I probably won't... At least not right now.
 

NUSQUAM

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AX Missile Racks have had their damage increased.
AX Weapons have had their description updated.

surely that's not all after all we heard on the live stream? Right? It really sounded like a buff across the board to help with entry for new AX players.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Old Duck said:
That's what I said, but people keep telling me "no". I guess I'll have to wait and see. If I need to install 50 GB 4.0 in order to keep playing 3.8, I probably won't... At least not right now.
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The 50 GB is to get to the 4.0 software if you are only going to run in legacy you won’t need that so should only need the smallest update which is only a few hundred MB.
Just be careful which upgrade you click on when the time comes in around an hour.
 

dia8el

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This update on Steam will kick automatically or i need to initiate it somehow?
its 15:12 and still nothin on Steam and game can not be launched
:(
 

aRJay

aRJay
NUSQUAM said:
AX Missile Racks have had their damage increased.
AX Weapons have had their description updated.

surely that's not all after all we heard on the live stream? Right? It really sounded like a buff across the board to help with entry for new AX players.
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Maybe they have written a really good description for the weapons.
 

aRJay

aRJay
dia8el said:
This update on Steam will kick automatically or i need to initiate it somehow?
its 15:12 and still nothin on Steam and game can not be launched
:(
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I don’t know anything about Steam but it is only 14:14 here in the uk so about 46 minutes before things are due.
 
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