Ozric
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No you actually are Elite I, it's just that the next rank is now a lot further away than it was before.
Exobiology Rank Reset?
- Thread starter Whiteadderrocks
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Cheers everyone for the feedback/advice
So they aren't looking at rank based on total cumulative credits, just the necessary credits to get to the next rank. Ok.
Ozric
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They are basing it on totals, but they didn't want to remove any ranks that people had already accrued.
Can you imagine what would have happened if someone got Elite rank and then because of the adjustments the new totals would have put them at Cataloguer for example, so Frontier just made them lose 4 ranks, and access to Shinrarta Dhezra...
The cosmetics granted at various levels would have been another complication.
If they are basing it on totals then someone that got Elite IV last week has an extra long way to go to get Elite V. Ranking up would be the equivalent of the updated Elite II->V but all in one huge step.
It would also means that in this example their progress will remain at 0% until they reach the amount required for the updated Elite IV... then the progress bar will start to increase.
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Ozric
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Never mind...
Unfortunately that does not seem to be true. I was at 98% of Elite 1 and am now at 0%, beyond that, even after doing 150 million worth of turn ins, which should have been atleast a few percent on the new scale, I'm still at 0%.
Only by the looks, not by the points/experience.
You'd be right if they would have added the required experience to my experience pool to maintain my rank/progress
This quote of yours
gets the initial premise right, but then you arrive to the wrong conclusionSo if i was Geneticist with 430 millions credits cashed, only needing 10 millions more to reachd Elite (440 millions) - so like 97% towards Elite
Then after the re-ranking, I should still be 97% towards Elite.
IF i'm not, it means i lost progress
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the insane progress was an error. FD increased the payments 10fold but forgot to increase the rank requirements.. you have not lost out , an error was fixed. it's for the best imo. I did my 1s t ever scan on sat and under 10 hrs of (inefficient) scanning and no 1st discovered I was a gnats pube off hitting elite. that isn't right imo..... it means I will (probably for ever as I don't imagine I will be in to exobiology for the long haul as it's not in VR) be a geneticist for ages but I am fine with that personally.
i disagree
the insane payments was an error (4x first discovery bonus ontop of 20 fold increase of base payment), but they fixed it within days and the bonus is actually 1x
the progress doesnt matter much (imo) - it's just a personal achievement with no impact in the game.
however, while it may seem to be warranted to increase the ranking(*), they did it all wrong since they only moved the goalposts disregarding any % progress people made between ranks (see my previous post)
*(even tho it does not matter if you reach exobio elite in 1 week or in 100 weeks since you get nothing out of it in terms of ingame benefits)
if the elite ranking truly doesn't matter to you then surely you would not care either way. if OTOH part of your enjoyment comes from "filling buckets" as it work by progressing to elite then getting it in 10hrs game time is over too quickly imo
honestly I am not THAT fussed, it'd certainly not a hill I would die on arguing it and my toys are firmly still in my pram on this either way. but I am personally glad they pulled my back from elite.
admittedly having the correct rank would likely be better still but either it's more work to revert that OR FD felt actually taking away the rank and the cosmetics you get was going to give them too much grief.
I'm not fussed about it either.
I got one toon to Elite in exobio, 2 days ago, but only because i believed that Elite in exobio was worth the 5-10h of work needed to get it.
That's the time value that rank holds for me.
Now if it takes me 200h hours per toon to get my other toons to Elite in exobio, then it's definitely not worth it anymore and i wont pursue this goal.
At least not at this time when i have better things to do in the bubble than to run on a wild-goose chase.
So even tho i do think the payout increase* was a bad call, the re-ranking was worse and beyond that - it was really badly implemented.
So, it's about principle - if i was xx% towards the next rank, then after re-adjustment of ranking, i should still keep my progress - the xx% towards next rank
Else, while they're not demoting my current rank, they'll heavily demote my further progress to the next rank, progress that i already made before the re-ranking
*(why the exobio payouts increase? an untagged elw is worth 3 millions and they're much much much rarer than any exobio stuff out there, not to mention that you're not finding untagged elw in the bubble)
I got one toon to Elite in exobio, 2 days ago, but only because i believed that Elite in exobio was worth the 5-10h of work needed to get it.
That's the time value that rank holds for me.
Now if it takes me 200h hours per toon to get my other toons to Elite in exobio, then it's definitely not worth it anymore and i wont pursue this goal.
At least not at this time when i have better things to do in the bubble than to run on a wild-goose chase.
So even tho i do think the payout increase* was a bad call, the re-ranking was worse and beyond that - it was really badly implemented.
So, it's about principle - if i was xx% towards the next rank, then after re-adjustment of ranking, i should still keep my progress - the xx% towards next rank
Else, while they're not demoting my current rank, they'll heavily demote my further progress to the next rank, progress that i already made before the re-ranking
*(why the exobio payouts increase? an untagged elw is worth 3 millions and they're much much much rarer than any exobio stuff out there, not to mention that you're not finding untagged elw in the bubble)
I was wondering why my 14% towards Elite I vanished. I dont care about the money but I did like the faster progress just because I wanted to get Elite V done and out of the way so I could forget about it. EXO isnt the most fun task for me in Elite. I guess I'll just stay at elite and file the other Exo ranks in the same place the CQC ranks are.
The whole situation has the outward appearance of being very sloppy. I wonder if it all got blamed on the co-op student working at FDev.
Honestly, they should just do the recalculation and update ranks so that people have the right ranks. But yes, they need to recalculate the credits based on the new payouts because it seems they just upped the amounts and didn't do any recalculation, so if you spent 150 hours getting elite pre-U14, you now need to do another 125 hours just to get back to where you were.
If they actually want to backpay the few billion in credits I won't complain either
, but that really isn't necessary as long as they recalculate the rank progress based on current values.That's the way it is now. They did a full rank reset, but they don't show it to you. Now your progress is just stuck at zero until your "virtual" rank catches up to your "displayed" rank, then the progress starts climbing again. You won't see any movement for a loooong time, I guess. And pray that they don't alter the deal any further.