No Single Player offline Mode then?
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By: "It cannot be done", do you mean "Cannot be done by release" or "Cannot be done in 6 months" or "We don't want to do it. Ever." ?
I look forward to seeing it. I'm especially excited about next Saturday. I don't often get the chance to dress up.
I absolutely get that. I realise it's not what they wanted. But they also can't cherry pick the legislation protecting Store consumers. Unfortunately they have broken it, unwillingly perhaps, so they simply need to do what is right. And put it behind them.
Even if they'd not broken that legislation they should do what is morally right IMO, but they cannot be forced to do so without this breach.
So the current status is no working online play and no forthcoming offline play.
Seriously, I feel scammed.
Seriously, I feel scammed.
To me, at age 7, "Oh Mummy" on my ZX Spectrum wasn't boring. It's all I had. To my young eyes, it was a great game. Not sure I'd play it now (though I am considering making a fan-version.. a "HD Remake", if you will
)... again, through the others you mention, whilst some occurred when the internet was around, it was not nearly the extent it is today. Michael has already alluded several times to the fact that to ensure their vision is as close to what they want it to be, offline is a no-no. It just wouldn't be the same.I loved Elite back then... but I'm pretty sure expectations are vastly different now. And if the static universe in monochrome graphics is what you know and love, you can still do that
We all got a free copy, remember?
This is quite a long thread but I feel like I should provide my 2c as well. I'm on both sides here.
On one I can see that the Offline experience could become stale, lacking important event injections, economy events, special occurrences etc. While they say it was impractical for the offline mode to be this stale, I also believe that the offline mode would have been a serious misrepresentation of the Elite Dangerous experience. It would have effectively been 2 different games in one. I am "ok" at the removal of offline mode, dissapointed that I can't romp around in my own galaxy instance, but pleased with the fact that the online mode is becoming a place of interesting possibilities that I'm sure FD are going to surprise us with.
This, however, doesn't excuse FD from bait and switch (more of promised feature, and tried but couldn't deliver) and I hope that if anyone bought the game under the pretense of being able to play in an offline unconnected mode should be able to get a refund. I can excuse FD that when they first planned ED they had no idea that it would grow to the state it's currently in and beyond, but they still should do the right thing.
On one I can see that the Offline experience could become stale, lacking important event injections, economy events, special occurrences etc. While they say it was impractical for the offline mode to be this stale, I also believe that the offline mode would have been a serious misrepresentation of the Elite Dangerous experience. It would have effectively been 2 different games in one. I am "ok" at the removal of offline mode, dissapointed that I can't romp around in my own galaxy instance, but pleased with the fact that the online mode is becoming a place of interesting possibilities that I'm sure FD are going to surprise us with.
This, however, doesn't excuse FD from bait and switch (more of promised feature, and tried but couldn't deliver) and I hope that if anyone bought the game under the pretense of being able to play in an offline unconnected mode should be able to get a refund. I can excuse FD that when they first planned ED they had no idea that it would grow to the state it's currently in and beyond, but they still should do the right thing.
Right. How do I go about getting a refund for the three Mercenary Editions I pre-ordered just last month as presents for people who don't have broadband?
If FD said they planned an offline mode then i don't see how they are breaking consumer law? If a person forms an erroneous impression of what is to be provided, it's not the seller's fault. If i buy a toy car off you then turn round and say i thought i was buying a teal one based on the fact the pictures were without a scale, would i have a case?
Not sure if serious or trolling. Last I checked, the year is 2014.
Of course it didn't stop them playing Frontier - there wasn't anything else out there.
Right now, there's 2 candidates - Elite Dangerous & Star Citizen. Both actually different (Disclaimer: Backed both). Times have moved on, and for Frontier to deliver the experience they think is crucial to its' success, means that unfortunately offline is no longer an option.
If my lifestyle meant that this removed ED from games I could possibly play, I would be annoyed, but then move on. You won't be playing Star Citizen offline, either (and I am aware that that's not part of the discussion at hand, but thought I'd mention it).
The hard truth we have to understand is that online games are the way forward for multiplayer-online games. Note that I make a distinction there, that online is the way forward for Multiplayer games. As our hardware and networks improve, it'll become the norm and the entire idea of "offline" will be lost in the ether in a decade.
I'd be more "proud" if they would at least have the decency to publically apologise to those thousands of backers who helped fund a game that they can now no longer play.
Curtly referring them to a store refund page is not something to be proud of.
If you read through this entire thread you will see many many one liners from the white knight camp, obviously this guy was having a laugh. It was nice to see the aggrieved camp fire one off, (even though I still think they should be all deleted from this thread).
How. How, in 2014, is being able to team up with my friends in Canada, the UK, and New York (I'm in MN) a bug? How is it in any way detracting from my experience to have fun with my friends over vast distances? How? I can't even fathom what would make you say something this colossally wrong...
Oh, you mean like how Michael has stated multiple times that people can request a refund? Or how offline play was something that was striven for but found to be unrealistic at the current time given their current vision for the game, and this has been communicated to its player-base?
I have logged well over 300 hours of your "no working" online play... Don't know which version of the Universe you're from, but I've enjoyed the game for several hundred hours, and plan to enjoy it for thousands more. Feel scammed, feelings are not facts. You weren't scammed, you were given a product, and you attached your own ideals and expectations to said product.
To me, at age 7, "Oh Mummy" on my ZX Spectrum wasn't boring. It's all I had. To my young eyes, it was a great game. Not sure I'd play it now (though I am considering making a fan-version.. a "HD Remake", if you will
I loved Elite back then... but I'm pretty sure expectations are vastly different now. And if the static universe in monochrome graphics is what you know and love, you can still do that
Mmmmmm, sweet MIDI goodness.
And perhaps later they *will* be able to solve it. Right now they have a roadmap, of which Offline-mode isn't on it (currently). Perhaps down the line, with a bit of extra work, they can do it.
And I'm sorry, truly, but "intent" and "promise" are not the same thing.
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