Please.... DRM is DRM no matter how you swing it.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Please.... DRM is DRM no matter how you swing it.
So it looks like DRM, feels like a DRM and works like a DRM. Ah, yes, it's a multiplayer game! Stupid me...
Originally Posted by Kerrash
RE: DRM
The authentication in the game currently, is there to prevent other people from accessing your commander save.
Please.... DRM is DRM no matter how you swing it.
It stops people hacking your account. Would you like me to log in and steal your commander?
RE: DRM
The authentication in the game currently, is there to prevent other people from accessing your commander save.
Please.... DRM is DRM no matter how you swing it.
It stops people hacking your account. Would you like me to log in and steal your commander?
Ok, I've been following this game since launch, I live in a boarding house which restricts online games due to bandwidth issues, I've been waiting - literally - FOR YEARS to be able to play this game without having to go all the way home to use the unrestricted internet. And now, just a MONTH FROM RELEASE we're all being told that wont happen?
FD are about to lose a huge number of customers (Those with restricted or unreliable/slow internet) if they don't fix this, even if it's post release, even if it's not a dynamic, evolving galaxy. It's not like it would be forced, it would of course be optional. Anything that means we wont all have another Sims City outrage!
FD are about to lose a huge number of customers (Those with restricted or unreliable/slow internet) if they don't fix this, even if it's post release, even if it's not a dynamic, evolving galaxy. It's not like it would be forced, it would of course be optional. Anything that means we wont all have another Sims City outrage!
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No, I would like to have no online account at all, thank you very much. With a proper game you'd have to physically break into my home to steal anything.
No we won't we just want what we originally payed for, if they can't provide that then all i want is a refund, i'll then happily disappear never to return
Just cancelled and requested refunds for three orders of Elite Dangerous - Mercenary EditionChristmas shopping reboot.
Do the people you are buying not have the Internet?
Are you not happy with the rest of the game?
DRM... You keep using that word. I know it does not mean what you think it means.
How about you make two releases, since it's so easy and all. Honestly, while this isn't rocket science, it's still rather difficult stuff.
Your words. But I'm not disagreeing with you.
There's either a blue phone box, that will allow for this or a... well, another kind of blue one. But you get to choose which! Which should make you happy...
There's posts on how to do this all over. Don't let the door hit you in the bum on your way out. Because I don't want bum-prints on my new doors.
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The worst thing in all of this is that we've already given them our money, therefore we're not the ones they target the released game to
There's millions of console gamers that they have to keep in mind, "offline mode" is not something that will bring success to a company.
Indeed and "must be online all the time to play or you can't play at all" is also not something that will bring success to a company, as gaming history has shown time and time again.
And that's what it comes to! People are not seeing this, I saw it from when I wanted to get into beta. The single player version of this game would have to be so different in the way that it works that it would HAVE to be a whole different game!! Your talking about the news, why some commodities have gone up and why some have gone down, why the wars have broken out, who is winning because of support and reinforcements from others! That would all have to be a story unfolding made by the devs.
If they were still making an offline mode now do you think they would be able to not have any of that content in the game for any of you to enjoy and understand what is going on?
This whole beta has been testing features of the game that they needed to implement to have a base game. And the only stories they have made and told is due to us commanders doing trading, mining and helping out in a war.
The requirement to contact an authentication server of any kind is DRM. Kickstarter promised a DRM-Free version, and that promise is now broken, with the "always online" requirement.
I don't doubt they are upset about the decision. It's a hard pill to swallow and I do not disagree with your premise right there.
The needs of the few, sometimes get trampled on by the needs of the many.
Frontier is a business. If it were running on David Braben's Infinite Wallet Of Cash (IWOC), then I'm sure the offline version would exist as well.
They made the right decision, as a business, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS HURT A MINORITY OF THE BUSINESS. Nobody is arguing that, least of all the developers themselves.
This will be a great game, and I am saddened that some who have supported it will not be able to experience it. That sucks, I don't disagree.
Oh I dunno... make an offline save perhaps? You might not remember, but back in the good old days, there were no such thing as Steam, Origin and Uplay - there were online games, but they didn't require you to log in, because all relevant data was stored locally.
'But but... this can be haxxored!!1!!'
There are ways to encrypt this data to not be hacked.
Actually, I am glad Skyrim was not MMO... That aside, I'd have paid hard-cash for a Co-op version with friends
I understand that but a 150 page odd thread is getting a bit extreme.
I still don't understand why solo is not the same.
Ask for a refund and walk away. It be shame because you will miss an amazing ga,e.
Because it requires an internet connection, simple as that.
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Just popping in to say that I am also disappointed by this decision. I only logged on to the forums earlier today when the server went down and hadn't realised until seeing this post that offline had been removed. There isn't much I can say that hasn't already been said already but I guess I might as well write it all down:
I don't like that we weren't told about this sooner and reserving the admission to a single sentence at the end of a section in the newsletter seems cold. This is a decision that was bound to upset people and I've joined the forums before to check for posts about single player mode and been reassured that it would still be included.
If there are specific technical resons why a server instance can not be hosted locally I would like to hear those reasons. The suggestion that there is significant load created by a single player connected to a server doesnt ring true and even if it is the case, what's the problem with releasing the code anyway? If users can't make it work then they will be happy the there _was_ nothing that could be done and if they can make it work then they will also be happy. If it is a case of trying to keep all the IP away from those peksy backers then they should say so and accept the inevitable panning. The lack of detail on the impossibility of local instances just adds to the discomfort prople feel.
I think the concerns about the longevity of the game are also quite reasonable. Server running costs are clearly avaialble so the monthly cost of running the game is known and can be stated going forward. The suggestion by some that these predictions cannot be made should be even more alarming. Either there is a business case in place for this product or there isn't. If there is then I'd quite like to know what it is. Most MMOs (and ED _is_ one now nomatter how you slice it) make their business case explicit - either as free to play with advertisements, players paying for perks or subscription models. Not making it clear how they intend to pay indefinitely for the service leaves my very worried indeed because either they dont know or they do and dont want to say.
All I really wanted was a nice little space sim that I could pick up and play every once in a while
Just popping in to say that I am also disappointed by this decision. I only logged on to the forums earlier today when the server went down and hadn't realised until seeing this post that offline had been removed. There isn't much I can say that hasn't already been said already but I guess I might as well write it all down:
I don't like that we weren't told about this sooner and reserving the admission to a single sentence at the end of a section in the newsletter seems cold. This is a decision that was bound to upset people and I've joined the forums before to check for posts about single player mode and been reassured that it would still be included.
If there are specific technical resons why a server instance can not be hosted locally I would like to hear those reasons. The suggestion that there is significant load created by a single player connected to a server doesnt ring true and even if it is the case, what's the problem with releasing the code anyway? If users can't make it work then they will be happy the there _was_ nothing that could be done and if they can make it work then they will also be happy. If it is a case of trying to keep all the IP away from those peksy backers then they should say so and accept the inevitable panning. The lack of detail on the impossibility of local instances just adds to the discomfort prople feel.
I think the concerns about the longevity of the game are also quite reasonable. Server running costs are clearly avaialble so the monthly cost of running the game is known and can be stated going forward. The suggestion by some that these predictions cannot be made should be even more alarming. Either there is a business case in place for this product or there isn't. If there is then I'd quite like to know what it is. Most MMOs (and ED _is_ one now nomatter how you slice it) make their business case explicit - either as free to play with advertisements, players paying for perks or subscription models. Not making it clear how they intend to pay indefinitely for the service leaves my very worried indeed because either they dont know or they do and dont want to say.
All I really wanted was a nice little space sim that I could pick up and play every once in a while
Reason solo isn't the same is because solo still requires an internet connection. Also in Solo players from outside your bubble can affect your game.
Well Michael
To be honest with you, I played all of those from the first bbc version
and at the moment what we have on the table is ( disregarding the eye candy/sound ellement) a step backwards
I know we have the 4.9 round the bend followed by the Gama
so we need to wait and see what it brings to the game
at the moment i am not sure what way i will go on this, i realy whanted the offline option and knew it would be lacking in some respects
and was prepared to run with that
but the updates will need to bring a lot more content in
and the MP side will need to improve 100%
else you are going to get a real backlash here
the fact that offline is out is a real backbreaker for a lot
and you will never live that down untill it back on line, it was handled very bad and thats the main problem
anyway i wait and see hopfully it will come good
rgds
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